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Wow some of these people who print such garbage could teach Bin laden the propaganda machine . To even implie that the U.S. goverment murdered all those people is what the terriosts love, think about it.

From your previous post it looks like you believe that the Towers did fall because of the planes, which caused structural damage and intense fires all that weakened the steel enough to bring them down, but you think WTC 7 was still probably not brought down by natural causes?

When Bush was informed that a plane had crashed into one of the towers do you think he said back that this would be a great time to bring down WTC 7 as well? lol, I don't think you are saying that, I sure hope not.

What you are saying is you think someone took the tragic events to also bring down WTC 7 for insurance money, right? I think that is what the conspiracy nuts used for the reason of it coming down in the first place. I mean, that idea is always possible, but the speculation is so far out there and can't be proven at all.

Huge structural damage from crashing towers, air pressure, fires, and earthquakes sounds like a really sound reason to me why WTC 7 came down.

No it doesnt. What I said was:

"I think it would be easy enough to eventually convince the most skeptical lay person that a plane strike could take down the towers"

This is no indication of what my beliefs are regarding how the towers fell. My statement only implies, absent any other plausible explanation or verifiable hypothesis, that a passenger jet crashing into any building has the possibility of causing a collapse.





You are correct. I have no interest in speculating on what Bush may or may not have thought during the events on 9/11.





No. Do not take words out of my mouth. Looking at the evidense of how 7 fell is inconsistent with physics and my logic. Not that my logic is infallible but I find it tough to believe a fire, a pressure wave, debris, or small earthquake 6 hours prior took building 7 down in freefall.





Buildings the towers ACTUALLY LANDED ON weren't completely destroyed. Of every angle Ive seen of building 7 before collaspe doesnt indicate "Huge structural damage from crashing towers" and certainly not akin to that of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building after it was bombed in Oklahoma City. The blast wave of the Oklahoma City bombing was equivalent to 4000lbs of TNT. The blast measured 3 on the Ritcher scale which is over 1000 times the amount of energy of either plane impact in the reference you cited earlier. Although heavily damaged by the bomb, that building DID NOT COLLAPSE. I dont see even a raging fire burning, even for days, taking down a modern New York building. The fires seen in video footage of building 7 were pale in comparison to other modern steel framed fires of which NONE COLLAPSED. Even if these are valid and plausible explanations, none of them even combined, explain how it fell in freefall.

yeah i've heard and also saw a couple of vids dealing with these topics and quite frankly i gotta agree that the government was somehow involved yeah i know its hard to believe but desperate people do desperate things

btw thanks for proving me right about the insult hurling. Talking about my spelling and punctuation?? LMAO have fun again thou. BTW punctuation and spelling being but one part of a greater whole of the Language. I have always been a horrible speller yet my vocabulary is extensive. You think what u like there cowboy. Good day folks!

ITs about all they can do is hurl insults being that they cannot argue the facts, There isnt a smokeing gun answer to this topic but there are so many loose ends and outright lies that yes I infact do quistion the official version of 911 a great deal. But the sad thing is if the worst is true there isnt a thing that can be done about it.

This is one ofth most moronic statements I have read to date. For the sake of argument lets just say Bin Laden did manage to outwit our trillion dollar defences and he was infact the sole culprit on 911. What we have done to our own country and the world must far exceed his expectations and he must surly be gloating over our debacle in Iraq our gas prices and our defecit and wrecked economy. It seems the only people makeing any money are those invested in OIl and the defence industry, eveyone is is in deep ****

You are correct the FEMA report did attribute the collapse to fire, not shock or impact for if they did they would have to dig out the blue prints and find out what exactly failed in the design of the building, then blame the architecs and prove there design wrong wich of course they are unable to do so they needed a reasone that wouldnt require much proof so they said a smouldering fire caused two buildings to collapes at near free fall speed.

I have lots of reasons for not believing govt reports on 911, anymore I have a hard time believing anything the govt(politicians) says, or any media reports, I think that if you would think the opposite of what they say, you would be much closer to the real truth, but then I might be the only one who thinks that way. If you believe in the current system, you probably have not experienced it yet. But ,I guess we are all learning from this stuff, that is what we are here for ,to get a learning experience, this life is far better than any college education, and I did get 3 1/2 years college education with majors in both math and science. This govt will educate us all in ways you probably may not have thought of yet. You may get some serious shocks to your system too. When you get to a fork in the road, you have to make a decision. We have lots of decisions coming real soon, is my guess.(lot of forks in the road)Each decision can change the rest of your life. I think the govt uses the media to try to program us to be robots and think their way, but don't ever become a robot, just because the majority are willing to be robots. 911 reports fit in this category, think for yourself, otherwise you are just a nice little robot all lined up in a row.

3 1/2 years? Not bad for a freshman! Cheers!

outstanding post and I salute you

Just funnin' SMO!

sometimes a plane hitting a building is just a plane hitting a building though. for a FAT coverup i would have to point you to the Oklahona city bombing, but this was nothing more than a buncha towelheads working together with boxknives. .. and us getting caught with our pants down. mabe thats the really hard part. I said at the time that our country was twice as strong the day after than before. We were lucky that it wasent 100 planes instead of four. It also shows me though that our security at that time was obviously inadequate.

Can we spell racist?

Rambill, racism is disgusting. It really sickened me to read that filth and being the eternal optimist that I am and trying to find humor in all that I see, I cannot see anything funny in that. WTF?

racism? Where is that in Rambill's statement? You don't want to except what he said to be true so you have to pull the race card. When American was attacked, I got me some satisfaction by taking out several Islamo radicals....does that offend you too?

It wasn't what he said pertaining to the post, it was the "towel head" comment. Perhaps you missed that?

That is more derogatory than racist. It's far less offensive than what the Islamic radicals want to do to you. Don't be so easily offended.

Ah, so it is only partially racist? What percentage of it is racism and what percentage is derogatory? Easily offended? My mother came here from Cuba when she was 35 in the mid 50's. Does that make me only 50% spic? Or is that word derogatory more than racist? Are we lumping all of the good middle easterners together with the bad? Lets set up internment camps! It was good for the Japs.... wait, is that derogatory or racist? Food for thought.

WOW

pot, meet the kettle