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Topic: 911 truth movement
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Tue 01/08/08 02:15 PM
You have proven that contradicting you is an effort in futility. You simply bring up another site that knows the 'facts'! mrtxstar tried to discuss with you ~ and is a far more patient man then I... That didn't work!

Arguing the point with you is like trying to convince my dining room table that it is a bird... No matter how far I throw it.. it is still a table.

So.. poking fun is a much more effective way to communicate, and to be truthful? It is way more fun too!

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Tue 01/08/08 02:19 PM
I havent called bush the dumbest president or insulted him in any way other than he wouldnt speak to the 911 commision under oath. Why do you think he wouldnt do that? and why do you think he insisted on Vice president Cheneye to be at his side? Isaw the Populer mechanics thing by the way while waiting in the dentists office and my feelings were they debunked the easy topic or the crazy ones, granted there are some crazy theories out there. trust me my mind is open is yours?

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Tue 01/08/08 02:21 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Tue 01/08/08 02:22 PM

trust me my mind is open is yours?


Not so open that my brain has fallen out, unlike..... so many ill-witted sensationalists who need something big in their lives to make it all the more exciting and make them feel apart of something great.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:22 PM
Edited by madisonman on Tue 01/08/08 02:23 PM
I suppose no one even has a suggestion as to why President Bush would not speak under oath to the 911 commmision or why vice president Cheneye had to be at his side also not under oathhuh

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Tue 01/08/08 02:24 PM

I suppose no one even has a suggestion as to why President Bush would not speak under oath to the 911 commmision or why vice presdient Cheneye had to be at his side also not under oathhuh


Because it is ridiculous notion? Conspiracy in itself is a traitorous behavior/act by simple political definition, thanks to the wise mind of the great Machiavelli.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:28 PM


I suppose no one even has a suggestion as to why President Bush would not speak under oath to the 911 commmision or why vice presdient Cheneye had to be at his side also not under oathhuh


Because it is ridiculous notion? Conspiracy in itself is a traitorous behavior/act by simple political definition, thanks to the wise mind of the great Machiavelli.


That's not fair, some conspiracies hold water, and 9/11 was still a conspiracy, it's just that it was a conspiracy against the US from Al Queda & the Taliban;^]

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Tue 01/08/08 02:28 PM
Edited by madisonman on Tue 01/08/08 02:32 PM


I suppose no one even has a suggestion as to why President Bush would not speak under oath to the 911 commmision or why vice presdient Cheneye had to be at his side also not under oathhuh


Because it is ridiculous notion? Conspiracy in itself is a traitorous behavior/act by simple political definition, thanks to the wise mind of the great Machiavelli.
When congress is tasked with a duty to investigate it isnt up to the president to determine if it ridiculous. I suppose you dont think the biggest disaster since pearl harbor is worthy of a congresional investigation, that is amuseing

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Tue 01/08/08 02:32 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Tue 01/08/08 02:33 PM



I suppose no one even has a suggestion as to why President Bush would not speak under oath to the 911 commmision or why vice presdient Cheneye had to be at his side also not under oathhuh


Because it is ridiculous notion? Conspiracy in itself is a traitorous behavior/act by simple political definition, thanks to the wise mind of the great Machiavelli.
When congress is tasked with a duty to investigate it isnt up to the presient to determine if it ridiculous. I suppose you dont think the biggest disaster since pearl harbor isnt worthy of a congresional investigation, that is amuseing


I never said that it wasn't important enough for congressional insight, the Comission gave great insight as to how our intelligence, but especially how our bureaucracy caused us to fail in preventing the attacks. Bureaucracy is what was at fault on our end, yet still it was the main fault of those who committed the acts.

What you were implying was because Bush and Cheney did not show up that immediately means they were behind the attacks. And, by the way, other governmental officials of the administration did testify, officials who were directly linked to intelligence and prevention fields. People who know far more of what is going on and went on.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:35 PM
Edited by madisonman on Tue 01/08/08 02:36 PM
the fact that President Bush and VP Cheneye INSISTED to be allowed to testify WITHOUT being under oath implies alot, I only stated the fact.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:37 PM
Clinton and Gore were not under oath either.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:40 PM

Clinton and Gore were not under oath either.
i am not aware of this so a link would be great, but again you have to ask yourself why not? if truth is the mission then honesty would be the rule

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Tue 01/08/08 02:42 PM
Edited by mrtxstar on Tue 01/08/08 02:43 PM
MY GOD MAN....know your facts. You want to spout conspiracy but you didn't know Clinton/Gore insisted on not being under oath during questioning? Do your own homework I am done providing you material.

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Tue 01/08/08 02:46 PM
If I knew all the facts I would have all the answers and the purpose of this thread would be pointless, like I just said above a link would be great, but if congress has been tasked to investigate 911 and truth is the goal then why would all the key players refuse to speak under oath? a simple quistion but realy you dont need to answer it as like you said the answer is implied

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Tue 01/08/08 02:48 PM
this thread is pointless

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Tue 01/08/08 02:49 PM
with that I will take off for a while to much time spent on this tonight, thanks for your inputs and have a great night.

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Tue 01/08/08 03:40 PM
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Tue 01/08/08 04:04 PM

They are having a sale on aluminum window shades on www.thoop.thoop.thoop.i_heartheblackhelicopterscoming.nut laugh laugh laugh laugh glasses bigsmile
OK so maybe you have some idea why neither President Bush or VP Cheneye would go under oath for the 911 commision? but again to be under oath would make you have to tell the truth. Why then would they not wish to tell the truth? exacly whome is in need of help exactly? A simple quistion realy not exactly worthy of a cynical comment

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Tue 01/08/08 04:18 PM


They are having a sale on aluminum window shades on www.thoop.thoop.thoop.i_heartheblackhelicopterscoming.nut laugh laugh laugh laugh glasses bigsmile
OK so maybe you have some idea why neither President Bush or VP Cheneye would go under oath for the 911 commision? but again to be under oath would make you have to tell the truth. Why then would they not wish to tell the truth? exacly whome is in need of help exactly? A simple quistion realy not exactly worthy of a cynical comment


Dude, Bush & Cheney rarely, if ever, speak under oath about any investigations. It doesn't automaticaly mean they orchestrated the attack, it just means they're playing politicaly safe under the guise of protecting classified information. It's too easy to be duped into something as crazy as this by playing connect the dots with missing data, but the truth of the matter, despite the "truther" gospel, is that the official story is completly plausable. Osama was pissed off because under clinton they attempted to bomb him & missed, make no mistake Osama takes this personaly. Look into the history between us & Al Queda, the official story fits perfectly (concerning 9/11 not Iraq). Don't believe anything you read on these websites, they are full of mistruths, comments out of context, context that is flat false, and a whole lotta sheer speculation. Sad, it actualy started out blaming the jews for 9/11 and suddenly became blaming our government;^]

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Tue 01/08/08 04:23 PM
This thread inspires cynicism. Clinton and Gore refused to testify under oath. Bush and Cheney refused as well. Were you sleeping while all of this was going on? What questions would have been asked? What answers would have been matters of national security? Answers would have IMMEDIATELY appeared on Al-Jazeera (CNN) Common sense should be the answer here and as far as lies under oath go,..... check slick Willie's "under oath" statement (repeated over and over) on that one. glasses

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Tue 01/08/08 04:24 PM
I suppose you would have to say something anyhow but one would think that 911 being used to wage a trillion dollar war in two countries and countless lives both guilty and innocent being taken we could at least have a little honesty about 911 from our elected officials. Speaking to congress under oath on 911 could not possibly be a classified information, and regardless it could be a closed door session under oath. But again its a reasone but not exactly a good one considering all that is/was at stake. That alone to me isnt enough to quistion 911 but taken as a whole the entire list of 911 wierdness to me is enough to quistion it...and that is all I am doing

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