try this http://iwilltryit.com/freefall1.htm

I'm making no conclusions,
just posting what's out there.

this is one of the things that disturbs me about it all, so many credible people, like first responders,engineers and MIt professors all have alot of valid points to make on alot of these issues and they have barely been addressed by the media, its like case closed. end of story, forget about the laws of physics and gravity. I realy dont know what to conclude myself but I do understand why there are so many "conspiracy theories" about it......there is some wierd stuff

In the interest
of objectivity,
here's another
link on the
subject.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1

You gave some good links to look over I havent realy taken anything at face value and even if I did I still have quistions in my own mind unanswerd so I wll think about it and keep looking into it thanks for the input everyone I will catch up with this tomorow sometime

the fuel did not all burn immediately upon impact, if you look at the videos the places burned for a long time before colapse that's why they were able to evacualte most of the people. Put a bunch of weight on a piece of steel, then heat it and see what happens. There were thosands of tons of weight above those fires not to mention that the planes crashing into the buildings took out a lot of the supports.

But I guess it is easier to believe that our government murdered all those people for their own demented purposes than to realize that there are a whole bunch of wicked people in this world that want to kill as many of us as possible for no other reason than we are Americans. Of course if you realized that then you would have to do something about it so it is better to subscribe to this liberal nutcase conspiracy theory.

K PEOPLE WHO SAY THE JET FUEL CAUSED THE STEEL TO WEAKEN BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT TOLD U THAT.....Jesus do some research people. K lets go back to physics 101. In a "controlled burn" (where oxygen and fuel are regulated in an optimal mix), jet fuel will reach a maximum temperature of 1800 degrees Fahrenheit,steel begins to melt at 2750 dF,Yet molten steel was reported below the towers, suggesting that a very powerful "fuel" was used, set to burn or explode BELOW the building, not at its top.Thermite, an HTA (high-temperature accelerant) typically used in military operations, would have been able to liquefy the steel. OK SO WHOS GONNA DISPUTE THIS NOW HMMM>???? Mr. Blacksmith??? Wake up People!!!!

Im Sorry you all speak so intellectually about the subject but u leave out the facts and bring in your bi-est opinons. Im not being bi-est do I believe in a conspiracy yes I do.. But I dont say HMMM I guess its just easier for u to believe that Terrorists didnt do it cause otherwise u would have to do something about it. I bring the facts to the table with me. THE FACTS show what I said above. They also show that in many other similar situations. YES THERE are similar situations..IF NEED BE I will document them for u. IN HIRISE/ tower/ structures got hit or assailed there were NO thats right people NO full collapses. Matter of FACT the closest case was when a 80 story building was struck on or about the 45th floor....a PARTIAL thats PARTIAL Collapse of the 80,79.78,77 floor occurred STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING REMAINED IN TACT.....so MAYBE Mr blacksmith its u who does not want to admit that his government could possibly be involved....because then maybe sir YOU would have to get up and do something...rather then sit back and say..THE NATION IS DOING THERE best to bring the perpatrators to justice!!!!

One more thing before u try this route let me shoot u down quick!! even a 50% loss of strength is still insufficient, by itself, to explain the WTC collapse.with its strength halved, the steel could still support two to three times the stresses imposed by a 1800 degree Fire.

WOW

Yeah, it's been a great assett to the Bush admin. because people hear this nonsense and lump all of Bushs critics into the same category. Meanwhile a CIA agent gets outed, the CIA taps our phones, and new laws get passed allowing government to seize private property for commercial use. Truth is, 9/11 was indeed a conspiracy, but it was an Al Queda conspiracy;^]

....and yet.. we wonder why there are so many therapists. So many people on therapeutic levels of psychoactive pharmaceuticals.

Do you remember when you were a kid and made a weird face at a girl to get her attention... There was always some adult telling you if you hold your face that way for too long it just might stay that way?

We knew better, didn't we.

This, however, can be a pretty valid statement when it comes to living in altered reality!
I'm thinkin a few here have surpassed the time limit, and their faces are irreparably stuck!

The plot, physics, mechanics, conspirators and our governments involvement in 9/11 is complex, convoluted enough without adding crap that did not happen, is not possible.. and just through common sense and rational thought leads a reasonable person to discount it as fiction.

I think your statement is a bit moronic and insulting to those who have a reasonable doubt about events, but I am sure that is your intent. I dont have alot of time to respond to alot of comments except the one that sticks out the most. I suggest you take a piece of steel place a signifcant weight on it and pour Kersene on it light it and do it in the open air and see if you can get it to bend or break, keeping in mind of course you use construction steel. Good luck with that, no bellows or fans or other sources permited in this expirement.Le t me know how it turns out

madisonman...
I give you credit for questioning things. I thought you might enjoy reading the below link. Maybe you will find some answers to your questions.

http://www.debunking911.com/ironburns.htm

How would that experiment proove anything? It completly ignores all the other factors. Mass X acceleration = force, the WTC could not stand up to the mass of the jet by the speed it was traveling, that force was as much the culprit, if not more than the burning jet fuel and explosions there from. Let's keep it real, the laws of physics clearly allows for the official story;^]

I'll be sure to quiz you as to who you work for and where..in the event I need any steel fabrications that require any tensile strength. In the meantime.. I'm thinking I might just consider carbon laminates and plastics as a safer alternative, for any designs I might be involved in.

well you probly know you wont be able to do anything with steel by pouring kerosene on it, you could do this all day long and wont have any luck bending it or melting it so is it any wonder people have quistions about the entire event? it doesnt make them crazy in any way, in fact it is our right and duty to persue the truth. I think you are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OruQy-X32O0&feature=related

Guys,
Agree to disagee and be done with it. Neither of you is going to change the others mind.

I am not here to win a debate just exchange information I try not to insult even though I am being baited, I would suggest that if you dont like the topic you simply leave it. If you feel the need to insult you must be loseing your argument anyhow. Again I would simply suggest you get some construction steel set a reasonable ammount on weight on it and pour kerosene on it and light it, be prepared to do this all day and in an open air environement or even semi closed you wont have any luck getting it to weaken or bend. Oh but if you realy wish to simulate 911, make sure you cover your steel with insulation :)