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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMP LAND
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 09/30/18 06:43 AM
'The American Way' is a pretty nice but pretty useless cliche. America has as many 'ways' as it has Americans. I dont know what BLM has to do with Trump. But no one is in every place addressing everything that happens everywhere in every moment. The last POTUS was re elected, served the maximum allowed under the Constitution, led the country AWAY from depression. There is no historical standard under which that will ever be classified as 'failure.' like all POTUS some of their 'promises'(campaign assertions where they rarely ever use the word PROMISE in connection to anything but what they are able under the constitution to do) will see light of day and others will not. Trump is no different. Obama was no different.

Workin4it Joined Wed 10/02/13 Posts: 799	Sun 09/30/18 07:50 AM
'The American Way' is a pretty nice but pretty useless cliche. America has as many 'ways' as it has Americans. I dont know what BLM has to do with Trump. But no one is in every place addressing everything that happens everywhere in every moment. The last POTUS was re elected, served the maximum allowed under the Constitution, led the country AWAY from depression. There is no historical standard under which that will ever be classified as 'failure.' like all POTUS some of their 'promises'(campaign assertions where they rarely ever use the word PROMISE in connection to anything but what they are able under the constitution to do) will see light of day and others will not. Trump is no different. Obama was no different. Sorry, I don't know why the BLM topic got in my post it showed up when I posted . I honestly don't give a damn about BLM a false narrative .regardless... Trump has actually done more than he said he would.. So you think the American way is useless huh! This is what puts america ahead of every other country in every way. Our desire to "get it done" and to overcome adversity or our will to defend others from foes. This is the differance between a president that wants to make America great and a president that just wants to sit in the White House and act like a big shot.now the "big shot" is running around trying to undermine the POTUS

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 09/30/18 08:07 AM
I put "American Way' in quotes to signify that it is JUST words that are cliche and simplistic and not rooted in the reality of things. "Get her done" is another cliche phrase, being that the 'her' that is being done or that one thinks should be done is also not a monolithic set of issues that each American agrees on. All countries want to 'get her done'. We are really not so unique in that. We just have different things we are referring to when we use the phrase, that depend on our culture, government and history.

Workin4it Joined Wed 10/02/13 Posts: 799	Sun 09/30/18 08:37 AM
I put "American Way' in quotes to signify that it is JUST words that are cliche and simplistic and not rooted in the reality of things. "Get her done" is another cliche phrase, being that the 'her' that is being done or that one thinks should be done is also not a monolithic set of issues that each American agrees on. All countries want to 'get her done'. We are really not so unique in that. We just have different things we are referring to when we use the phrase, that depend on our culture, government and history. i rest my case. Not just words but a actual way to look at life and try to live your life in a positive way and not cry victim every time something doesn't go your way. And our culture, government and history is America , and all who come here should adapt to the American way. Liberals should try it. You might like the less chaotic lifestyle.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 09/30/18 11:05 AM
yes, 'American Way' is just words, since what is described as "living positive' and not 'crying' when things dont go your way are 1. not unique to Americans or America 2. not indicative of how each American lives There is a decent way to live, that has nothing to do with geography. People should maybe realize and accept it. America has many 'cultures', southern, midwestern, urban, rural, etc ... and each one has the good and the bad within it. people dont come here to 'adopt' they come here for the freedom to not 'have' to adopt in order to have certain Human rights that are allegedly 'endowed by the creator' and not allegedly dependent upon where the HUMAN resides.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14969	Sun 09/30/18 11:18 AM Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sun 09/30/18 11:19 AM
what really annoys some is the great success he is having as president. Something the last guy never had. I will say that the last guys lack of understanding " the American way" led to his failure. Trump understands what the people want and is doing everything he can to fulfill his promises so far !! This.

Workin4it Joined Wed 10/02/13 Posts: 799	Sun 09/30/18 01:32 PM
yes, 'American Way' is just words, since what is described as "living positive' and not 'crying' when things dont go your way are 1. not unique to Americans or America 2. not indicative of how each American lives There is a decent way to live, that has nothing to do with geography. People should maybe realize and accept it. America has many 'cultures', southern, midwestern, urban, rural, etc ... and each one has the good and the bad within it. people dont come here to 'adopt' they come here for the freedom to not 'have' to adopt in order to have certain Human rights that are allegedly 'endowed by the creator' and not allegedly dependent upon where the HUMAN resides. if everybody that comes to this country only wants to speak his native language and their native customs and refuse to accept or even learn about the culture or language of the country that accepted them. Than those people are part of the problem. Yes, everyone should strive to live a decent life. Someone should relay that message to the democrats.

I_love_bluegrass Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 1665	Sun 09/30/18 02:04 PM Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Sun 09/30/18 02:05 PM
if everybody that comes to this country only wants to speak his native language and their native customs and refuse to accept or even learn about the culture or language of the country that accepted them. Than those people are part of the problem. Yes, everyone should strive to live a decent life. Someone should relay that message to the democrats. Funny dat... I don't see the majority of people in this country speaking Algonquin, or Cherokee, or Chippewa, or Mowhawk. Nor do I see the majority of people observing Native American customs...

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sun 09/30/18 02:23 PM
Plenty of people are smoking peace pipes

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 09/30/18 02:26 PM
people are individuals first, the way they register is not a blanket assessment of what the individual does or believes. People can 'incorporate' what they learn from others, that is different than the idea of assimilating which usually refers to replacing completely one thing with another.

Workin4it Joined Wed 10/02/13 Posts: 799	Sun 09/30/18 02:32 PM
if everybody that comes to this country only wants to speak his native language and their native customs and refuse to accept or even learn about the culture or language of the country that accepted them. Than those people are part of the problem. Yes, everyone should strive to live a decent life. Someone should relay that message to the democrats. Funny dat... I don't see the majority of people in this country speaking Algonquin, or Cherokee, or Chippewa, or Mowhawk. Nor do I see the majority of people observing Native American customs... i know what your saying but by your logic we should all be speaking ugh and grunts, you know like cavemen.

I_love_bluegrass Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 1665	Sun 09/30/18 03:30 PM Edited by I_love_bluegrass on Sun 09/30/18 03:33 PM
if everybody that comes to this country only wants to speak his native language and their native customs and refuse to accept or even learn about the culture or language of the country that accepted them. Than those people are part of the problem. Yes, everyone should strive to live a decent life. Someone should relay that message to the democrats. Funny dat... I don't see the majority of people in this country speaking Algonquin, or Cherokee, or Chippewa, or Mowhawk. Nor do I see the majority of people observing Native American customs... i know what your saying but by your logic we should all be speaking ugh and grunts, you know like cavemen. No, I was replying to your statement that when people come to a country that isn't theirs, they shouldn't continue to speak their native language, but rather...they should learn the langauge and customs of the people of the country they immigrate to. If that is true, then, by your logic, the English/ Puritans should have learned the Native American languages and customs...not continue to speak their own native language and celebrate their own customs...

tombraider Joined Wed 09/12/07 Posts: 5042	Sun 09/30/18 03:38 PM Edited by tombraider on Sun 09/30/18 03:38 PM
Native Americans started with the white man..haven't you heard..You got to love the hypocritical logic we apply as we see fit to justify..the American Way...

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sun 09/30/18 03:48 PM
I think what you are missing is the point that we took over the country. Immigrants need to fit in.....because keeping separated shows signs they might try to take over.

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sun 09/30/18 03:51 PM
I think what you are missing is the point that we took over the country. Immigrants need to fit in.....because keeping separated shows signs they might try to take over. At the 4th of July celebration a Mexican yelled Mexico after the finale. He definitely isn't trying to become an American.

I_love_bluegrass Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 1665	Sun 09/30/18 04:37 PM
I think what you are missing is the point that we took over the country. Immigrants need to fit in.....because keeping separated shows signs they might try to take over. Yeah, wouldn't that suck.. I mean...being taken over... Ask the native peoples of this country about that...

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sun 09/30/18 05:24 PM
I think what you are missing is the point that we took over the country. Immigrants need to fit in.....because keeping separated shows signs they might try to take over. Yeah, wouldn't that suck.. I mean...being taken over... Ask the native peoples of this country about that... My great grandmother is a full blooded Indian. I would ask her but she is dead. We have built a great country and I'm not in favor of letting it be taken over by illegals or socialist just because we took it from the Indians. I feel liberals don't understand that it would turn into a 3rd world country. Some people don't have the mentality to lead. The welfare for all and open borders campaigning should be looked at as traitors.

Redrider1500 Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 865	Sun 09/30/18 07:52 PM
Ok, so what lndian language should we have learned? Mohawk? Chippewa? Navaho? Creek? Iroquois? Crow? The indians were all of different tribes. They had no central language. English was adopted as a central language. Yes, they were here first. But they were just as split up as Europe was.

Charles1962150 Joined Tue 03/13/12 Posts: 3403	Mon 10/01/18 12:22 PM Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 10/01/18 12:55 PM
Migrant Children Moved Under Cover of Darkness to a Texas Tent City "In shelters from Kansas to New York, hundreds of migrant children have been roused in the middle of the night in recent weeks and loaded onto buses with backpacks and snacks for a cross-country journey to their new home: a barren tent city on a sprawling patch of desert in West Texas". http://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/migrant-children-tent-city-texas.html Trump cites the 'trauma' of the FBI investigation on Kavanaugh and his family "“I want them to do a very comprehensive investigation,” Trump said in during a Rose Garden press conference that was meant to tout a newly signed trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. “I want it to be comprehensive. I actually think it’s a good thing for Judge Kavanaugh. I think it’s actually a good thing, not a bad thing. I think it’s a good thing.” “Now, with that being said, I’d like it to go quickly,” the president continued. “And the reason I’d like it to go quickly is quickly is simple. It’s very simple. It’s unfair to him. What his wife is going through. What his beautiful children are going through is not describable. It’s not describable. It’s not fair.” http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cites-trauma-fbi-investigation-kavanaugh-family-182506810.html Comprehensive investigations don't happen in a week. And what about what's fair to his accuser?

Charles1962150 Joined Tue 03/13/12 Posts: 3403	Tue 10/02/18 03:02 PM Edited by Charles1962150 on Tue 10/02/18 03:03 PM
Trump's big strategy on trade: Rebranding? "President Trump’s new trade deal with Canada and Mexico isn’t nothing. It offers new protections for U.S. intellectual property, along with data and digital assets. It slightly improves American access to the Canadian dairy market. And new provisions on autos could protect some U.S. manufacturing jobs". http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trumps-big-strategy-trade-rebranding-195558487.html Trump's greatest deal in the history of America is nothing more than a slightly tweaked NAFTA 2.0 When the 10,000's promised manufacturing jobs don't materialize, he'll blame the Democrats.