msharmony, You know just as well as I do, they can't. They have no evidence to back up the majority of what they say. It's like the news thread I started. It's what's going on every day in DC. But many of them can't stand it. Because they can't disprove it.

And if you can't disprove it, since they can't attack the message, they try to attack the messenger. Some people would rather live in ignorance and hate & "alternate" facts. The way I look at it, I already said it above. This is his thread. The burden of proving his point is on him. And so far he hasn't. Just a lot of talk and empty words.

Yeah, more deflection. You started this thread. It's up to you to prove what you say. So far, you haven't. Just more vague and unsubstantiated claims that Nobody can find any info on. So what are most left to think? You make it up as you go along? And try to spin it the way you want to believe it. And expect others to believe it. Even though you can't back it up? Or you are afraid to try to back it up because some of us are smart enough to see through the BS?

In the beginning, All I was pointing out was the fact that's all that's out there. You can spin it either way you want. But you prove nothing. What might or might not be true, is the picture that was taken at the arena. And the far right spin/misinformation and flat out lying that far-right news sources do. That's what I was talking about. It really had nothing to do with you.

News doesn't generally report what COULD or COULD not be true though. Trump COULD be an alien or a domestic abuser. But what is reported as FACTUAL, usually has some type of EVIDENCE documented as back up to substantiate it. Certainly tickets to see the Clintons would be reported SOMEWHERE on the WWW. So the absence of any such 'evidence' understandably makes the claim, at the very least UNSUBSTIATED if not flatly untrue. I dont know any vendor that would hide the means to make revenue ... just saying.

You can't pay much attention to unsubstantiated claims by the far right. Remember, they say anything. Whether they have any proof of it or not. So far I have found nothing that proves in any way how large the arena was or how many people showed up. With the all-out lies and far out conspiracy theories that they make up out of the blue, the one picture I found showing many seats still empty, could have been taken hours before the event. Since it's on one of those far-right news sites, I take it with a grain of salt. It may be true, it may not be. This could be misinformation.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/11/clintons_speaking_tour_event_in_toronto_had_83_of_the_seats_empty.html

Dude..I don't know where you get your info..
But I just looked on StubHub and several other sites..and didn't see them for $6.50....

And what 20,000 seat "arena" are your referring to?
The engagements *I* see are all theaters and halls with anywhere from 2500 to 4500 seats..

The biggest one *I* could find was in Vancouver BC (18,000)..and that isn't until May of *next year*..so, no..they probably haven't sold many tickest yet..

It is already been safe as it will get. the only change is the way its being used politically by media to divide and invoke fear.

Not a bad idea.

We Europeans do it a bit different, though. We pay them to go back. Isn't that clever?? Spending even more money on unjustified "asylum seekers" and "refugees". Giving them even more reasons to 'nock on our doors! They loose nothing. Either they're granted asylum or they get a pile of money. How much? About $5k each. But some really clever ones will rise that to about $12k! I don't know the price of a camel, but I guess you get a few for $12k..

Shall we cry or laugh?

Anti immigrant?..since when does someone else's problems become ours..How about this..If one is having financial difficulty they just come over to your house and YOU pay their way out of it..or what you think you have the right to delegate that everyone else should..why should they ..because you say so..I think not..as far as what you call FACTS what do you know to be true..because the mockingbird says so or what you deem what is true by who you choose to back up your own bias..how does that make it true..fact is it don't.

If Mexico chose to let those people in without checking out who they were letting in or whether they could afford it..sounds like it's their problem..but they want to pass it on to us as if we should pay for it why should we..How about all those who want to feel sorry for them shoulder the burden rather than think they have the right to make us..tell the Dems or Soros or who ever else to move them into their house and take care of them..that's a much better idea..

I have plenty of empathy and sympathy ..for the people of Mexico. Whose government should have done something about the situation when it showed up at their southern border ..as far as the the immigrants how about instead of marching all this way..they march up to their capital and overthrow their governmet or elect better people rather than expecting others who have enough problems of their own take care of it..



And one more thing while I'm at it..If you think this is about empathy or sympathy..in my opinion it's those emotions that the Deep State is preying on in hopes of bringing about dissension to the masses while trying to break the economy so that it makes it that much easier to bring about their BS ideology towards forming a New World Order..



..DO THE RESEARCH..

...follow the rabbit..Alice


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Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List


"Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in the 1970s and ‘80s. More recently, his political rise was built on promulgating the lie that the nation’s first black president was born in Kenya. He then launched his campaign with a speech describing Mexicans as rapists".


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Trump’s Long History of Racism


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trumps-long-history-of-racism-201446/

How Trump talks about race


"President Donald Trump’s long history with race is complicated.

He is a man who was accused of racial discrimination multiple times at his businesses but who used his Mar-a-Lago resort to smash white-only membership policies in Palm Beach, Florida.

He was among the loudest voices attacking the legitimacy of the nation’s first black president but launched one of the most public Republican efforts in modern history to reach out to the African-American community.

He has a Jewish daughter and grandchildren, yet left Jews out of a Holocaust remembrance statement.

He fired a longtime aide for using a racial epithet, but secretly funded ads that associated Native Americans with drug use and crime. And he has repeatedly called Mexicans rapists and criminals while insisting that he loves them".

"While Trump’s actions have landed on both sides of racial currents, his public record depicts a man who most often moves in one direction: overlooking racial sensitivity and concerns in the name of fighting “political correctness.” That’s something his base likes, but also something that has caused him problems within his party and with voters at large. "

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race

Yep, it was his mouth and what comes out of it that brought on the Democrats taking the house and a bunch of governorships.

If he doesn't change some of his ways before 2020, his mouth will cause him to lose reelection. That is if he wishes to run by that time. If Mueller doesn't get him first. Over half the country didn't want him in office in 2016. The midterms proved that. By 2020, if he hasn't changed by then, the people will speak again. And I don't look for people to change their minds about him by that time. Again, unless he changes his ways.


I like how you left yourself an out to cover your incorrect quote" unless he changes his way" . His mouth and that attitude is what got him elected in the first place. And he will repeat that feat in 2020 because he won't bow down to the will of the immoral progressive left. Who is there to challenge him. Hillary, Beto, or how about Swallwell. 3 great choices. One is corrupt the other is inexperienced and the last one is plain stupid.. It takes more that wishing to win elections.

I voted for the best candidates based on the pamphlet that came in the mail. some were dems and some were reps, blind party loyalty = political blindness and uninformed choices.

not for nothing, but math is a series of numbers and rules about numbers, there is no 'proof' needed so long as the rules are met.

however, when there are only three people in a room and there is offensive touching, 'proof' in the physical sense would be impossible to gather. It only becomes a he said/she said, which is then usually figured (if we watched Cosby) by the victims past behaviors and words.

K's actions and words lead me to believe Ford was truthful. IT seems to me the thing kids do at parties, particularly boys who live in a culture where it is seen as a right of passage for the boy and only the girl is scorned or shamed for it. It seems highly likely he was a drunk in school(by his fervent defense of how much he loves beer, can anyone say, 'thou doth protest too much?).

It seems that he has little respect for women that don't kiss his behind (by the difference in how he addressed the women who did question him, a real job interview would have immediately disqualified him. "Have you ever been drunk and forgot something" answer, "have you?" who speaks at a job interview to the interviewer like that? NO ONE),

and his method of answering direct questions with more questions, his excessive water drinking, and emotionalism, and his ridiculous 'proof' of innocence being a personal CALENDAR (as if someone would document that they had groped someone at a get together) makes me think he was VERY deceptive.

but, like I said, in such a case where there is touching, it is hard to prove, without the words of the own accused (what did Cosby in was admitting to having drugs for sex, even though he never said he snuck them to anyone).

women can lie, I dont think she did or will be found to have either. I just think that one will never have enough 'proof' of what unfolded or when.

what are you talking about working? Do you not know white people who like chicken and hot sauce? Or people from Chicago who like chicken and hot sauce?

why does that have to be about race?