this I simply so do not get
simply because I have never cared what "men" understood

only a man who is important to me - whatever any other men understand is as important to me as last Tuesday's turnips

I think there are a lot of generalizations in this thread. I know many men AND women who care very much about consideration for the wants and needs of those close to them and I don;t much care for a premise that men and women are vastly different emotionally because I don;t buy that at all

but I do think your post is well intended - I am tired and may not be understanding your point is all

well - it's been real - g'nite

Life is based upon understanding each genders wants and needs. If you don't care want men understand then you don't have much political concern and how the government, governs the people/population, but you probably complain when you think the government makes a mistake and it doesn't suit your best interest.

As for last Tuesday's turnips; without understanding other peoples issues that are part of society; how do you intend on improving society and finding solutions to better society as a whole.

People generalize in these threads', because many issues are complex and require more than one person's knowledge to improve life (Society needs multiple opinions on important issues). But you already stated you do NOT CARE about anyone else's opinion (MAN'S) except for the individuals immediately involved in your life.

Your right women and men are not vastly different when it comes to emotions. The difference lay's in how the two genders are raised and education on how to express their emotions and how society response to a genders statement. Other words who is BULLIED for NOT agreeing with the normal consensus of a societies norm.

Life is more than one small group of people, but it is difficult and easy to over look when so many people struggle to survive.

thank you, I see. Yes, it is only those immediately involved in my life that I care most about in terms of their wants and needs. and that's not going to change. Society at large takes the waaaaay back seat. Why clutter my brain being anxious about things I cannot affect? It is not that "I don't care" in a flippant sense - that I do not care about people- it's that I cannot see myself wasting mental energy on worrying about what "men" in general understand because there is no such thing... each fella is an individual. So, no, I do not care for generalizations as I believe they cause more harm than what they do (not) contribute.

Thank you, yes. I have been bullied quite a few times for refusing to "go along" with the norm, and those are folks I do not speak with unless absolutely have to. It is an abhorrent behavior which undermines the rugged individualism of the North American soul!!!

Government, no. I do not approve. :) Seriously, it is flawed and I don't have the answers. I keep to home and do the best I can. Seriously thinking of joining my son in support of the Libertarians...but then I find them a bit too "Randian" so I am prolly best to stay an Indie. But we digress (however the O. P. is quite boring ) to the OP, I say- I agree with Leigh and this: "The difference lay's in how the two genders are raised and education on how to express their emotions and how society response to a genders statement. ")

Ruth34611 said the following:



Do you agree with what Ruth34611 said?

Not really, as there are many people who put down men and women. I don't see it as just one or the other happening.

What about the way that people respond to such put downs? Are the responses equal?
Do women condemn expressions of anti-male sexual prejudice as much as women condemn expressions of anti-female sexual prejudice?

In spite of all the fighting over who is right and who is wrong, statistics still confirm it's a man's world...Stats also confirm that the majority of sexual harassment lawsuits are filed by women against men...Women are making progress in their fight for equality (and trust me, it is a fight), but they still have a long way to go...Last year, 11,364 sexual harassment lawsuits were filed...Only 16.3% were filed by men and all of these were NOT FILED AGAINST WOMEN, some were filed against other men ...The 15 year chart from the United States Equal Employment Opportunity Commission also shows that over the past decade and a half not much has changed when it comes to men sexually harassing women in the workplace...How many want to bet this 16%/84% IMBALANCE runs true in areas outside the workplace too?...

http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm

And kudos Kahurangi ...You hit the nail squarely on the head (no pun intended) by pointing out the disparity between "people" in their 50's and "people" in their 20's...Three decades is a BIG learning curve and gives the older "person" one hell of an advantage....

It is on this site as well as in public I have had some 20 something bytch call me a pervert for even CONTACTING them. One got her backside tossed from this site because she was doing that to other members as well. The one and only woman I met on Match.com (<SUCKIEST DATING SITE ON EARTH SHORT OF eHarmony!) got pissed when I said she had a nice backside (in those words) and I was "Disrespecting her."

@Kahurangi: for all my anger I still know what joy is. I was in my 30's and had a serious relationship with a 19 year old (but her family crapped when they found out about me and worst was daddy talked a lot of crap behind my back but was scared to say anything to my face.) On top of that the three 19 year old GFs I had in the past I got along with FAR better than any other. It always it people around them that have to talk about me behind my back and NEVER TO MY FACE BECAUSE THEY KNOW I WILL HURT THEM! I hate, HATE, NO I FUCQING HATE PEOPLE WHO LIE ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK!

I am angry because I HATE BEING ALONE AND FEELING LIKE I AM THE ONLY LIFE FORM LIKE ME ON A WORLD FULL OF ANGRY UNEVOLVED MONKEYS PRETENDING TO BE PEOPLE! I am angry because of how pretentious people really are. I am angry because people make assumptions of me that have absolutely no foundation.

@Ruth, your wisdom, shines. Too bad the blinders some people wear prevent them from seeing your wisdom!

And most of all I am sick of people coming to me ONLY WHEN THEY NEED SOMETHING FROM ME! Do any of you honestly think THAT is living?

So, you're angry because a 20 something, who is 20 years younger than you thought you were too old? And because someone got mad at you for talking about her a*s on a first date? Perhaps you should re-think your approach. Only go for the younger women if they're clear they're into older men and leave the a*s compliments for when you know the girl is into you?

That's not just offensive, that's a sexual predator.

1) I am not 50 yet. And each day I have to live under the shadow of someone else's beliefs is one more day of happiness I am robbed of and one more day I get closer to that number 50. Age is a number in a lot of cases. You want something to get fumed about, how about that 50 year old man buying child brides that are pre teen girls? That does go on in countries especially in the Middle East and South America.

2) Mindset plays a lot into this. There is a difference between someone in their 50 wanting to live a happy life and someone in their 50s trying to pretend they are younger.

3) Women still call the shots where mating is concerned unless a man goes the rout of the Conqueror. I am sure I could have what I want if I decided to be the ultrabastard and just take what I want and harm any who deny me. So should I resort to "Might makes Right?" Is that what it will take for me to "get the girl?" And I thought we were supposed to be evolved!


and 4) a song for all of you!





Actually women have run things from behind the scenes for as long as history. And that doesn't count the societies run by women.

I find is actually Ironic I offer the equality women act like they want but look at the men they keep going for. The ones who dominate them predisposing that the woman thinks she is in control of them. I know married guys who are so puzzy-whipped they actually comer off as spineless to me. Yeah, all of us men are bastards...

Not sure, really as it depends on each person. But, I do see you complaining that women aren't standing up for men who are put down, but you're not standing up for women in this thread when men put them down. At least not to everyone who is trying to insult women. I would think that because you're so upset about men being put down that you'd always be standing up for women when they're being put down as well.

in my experience it all depends on the individual.. each reacts differently to any given situation.. there's no one unilateral response..

I'm not disputing the fact that sexual harassment occurs more towards women than men, BUT sexual harassment of men by women (just like domestic violence where men are the victim) is highly under reported. So, you can't really go by the "official" statistics.

I will answer my own question. The answer is "No, at least not on this site."

I saw anti-male sexual prejudice being expressed.
Were women quick to condemn it the same way that they are quick condemn anti-female sexual prejudice?
No, they were not.
Indeed, the woman who expressed the prejudice insisted that her expression of prejudice be given a pass.
Well, she got what she wanted.
Her sexual prejudice has been largely ignored while the sexual prejudice of men has been routinely criticized.

Sure, whenever a man expresses anti-female sexual prejudice, this should be opened up on him:

Are you saying that situation ethics is acceptable, that it's OK to give one form of sexual prejudice a pass while condemning another form?

No.I am only saying that each individual reacts differently in any situation.

That would be what I was saying as well. And just because one woman acts a certain way, it doesn't mean all women will act that way. Same goes for men.