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Jeanniebean
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Now I am going to end this discussion.
I just want to say that every major war and every major conflict seems to be centered around the middle east, and the temple mount. I find that interesting. What is it about the temple mount that they all seem to covet? And they are the three Abrahamic religions that all get their dogma from the Bible. Therefore I am proud to not be affiliated with in any of those religions. |
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And as we speak, Israel and America are plotting a plan to strike Iran and somehow make it look like they are defending themselves. March 15th probably is a date to watch. Like your post last week about the 67 war. You believe Egypt should have been inside Israel's territory before Israel fought back, you probably believe Iran should 'drop a load' before Israel defends itself. I read the details about the 6 day war that I was sent to on wiki and it was clear that Israel had been planing an invasion for a long time. It is possible the Egyptians were simply preparing to defend themselves against the imminent attack they knew was coming. |
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Of course, that's your perogative - to believe what you want to believe. Others can make up their own minds and prejudice does not cloud their understanding of the facts. I have no earthy reason to be prejudice against anyone. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 12/05/11 12:17 AM
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And as we speak, Israel and America are plotting a plan to strike Iran and somehow make it look like they are defending themselves. March 15th probably is a date to watch. Like your post last week about the 67 war. You believe Egypt should have been inside Israel's territory before Israel fought back, you probably believe Iran should 'drop a load' before Israel defends itself. I read the details about the 6 day war that I was sent to on wiki and it was clear that Israel had been planing an invasion for a long time. It is possible the Egyptians were simply preparing to defend themselves against the imminent attack they knew was coming. I have read all of it. I just don't buy it. |
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I tried to help. LOL
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I tried to help. LOL Awww you need to be of strong stuff to deal with these haters!!! |
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Does this help????????? The State of Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948 after almost two millennia of Jewish dispersal and persecution around the Mediterranean. From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews, by conflict with the Palestinians and by wars with neighbouring Arab states. Since about 1970 the USA has been the principal ally of Israel. In 1979, an uneasy peace was established with Egypt and in 1994, with Jordan. About 42% of the world's Jews live in Israel today. Modern Israel is roughly located on the site of ancient Jewish kingdoms which were the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity and contains sites sacred to all of the world's principal monotheistic religions. The Jews were mostly driven out of the country by the Romans over the course of centuries of conflict, although some Jews remained. In the Middle-Ages, the area formed the focal point of conflict between Christianity and Islam. The expulsion of the Jews from Spain led to an increased, though still small, Jewish presence. In modern times, persecution in Europe led to the creation of the Zionist movement, which was able to win international support and establish the world's only Jewish-majority state. Just to bump it......... |
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I tried to help. LOL Awww you need to be of strong stuff to deal with these haters!!! tsk tsk tsk. Nobody is hating anyone. |
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And as we speak, Israel and America are plotting a plan to strike Iran and somehow make it look like they are defending themselves. March 15th probably is a date to watch. Like your post last week about the 67 war. You believe Egypt should have been inside Israel's territory before Israel fought back, you probably believe Iran should 'drop a load' before Israel defends itself. I read the details about the 6 day war that I was sent to on wiki and it was clear that Israel had been planing an invasion for a long time. It is possible the Egyptians were simply preparing to defend themselves against the imminent attack they knew was coming. I have read all of it. I just don't buy it. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 12/05/11 12:24 AM
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Does this help????????? The State of Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948 after almost two millennia of Jewish dispersal and persecution around the Mediterranean. From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews, by conflict with the Palestinians and by wars with neighbouring Arab states. Since about 1970 the USA has been the principal ally of Israel. In 1979, an uneasy peace was established with Egypt and in 1994, with Jordan. About 42% of the world's Jews live in Israel today. Modern Israel is roughly located on the site of ancient Jewish kingdoms which were the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity and contains sites sacred to all of the world's principal monotheistic religions. The Jews were mostly driven out of the country by the Romans over the course of centuries of conflict, although some Jews remained. In the Middle-Ages, the area formed the focal point of conflict between Christianity and Islam. The expulsion of the Jews from Spain led to an increased, though still small, Jewish presence. In modern times, persecution in Europe led to the creation of the Zionist movement, which was able to win international support and establish the world's only Jewish-majority state. Just to bump it......... Oh gee that sums it all up. Thousands of years of war and conflict all summed up in two paragraphs. Good one. 
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From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews
Notice that it says "recreating". They were there first. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 12/05/11 12:30 AM
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From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews Notice that it says "recreating". They were there first. 
Not the same ones. What you have there now may not even be related. Just because their ancestors may have lived there does not give them the right to move in and steal the land now does it? |
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From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews Notice that it says "recreating". They were there first.
Not the same ones. What you have there now may not even be related. Just because their ancestors may have lived there does not give them the right to move in and steal the land now does it? |
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The whole middle east conflict, Israel, etc. is a huge and complicated subject. I just don't have the time to get involved or to become an expert on either side. I just hope they can keep the peace and stop killing each other over there.
Good luck with that.
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The whole middle east conflict, Israel, etc. is a huge and complicated subject. I just don't have the time to get involved or to become an expert on either side. I just hope they can keep the peace and stop killing each other over there. Good luck with that.
Exactly - you have hit the nail on the head with your second sentence. If you took the time to read the links we post and research you will become more knowledgeable as some of your statements about the middle east are downright lies. And your laugh emos are glib in what is a very serious situation. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 12/05/11 02:25 AM
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The whole middle east conflict, Israel, etc. is a huge and complicated subject. I just don't have the time to get involved or to become an expert on either side. I just hope they can keep the peace and stop killing each other over there. Good luck with that.
Exactly - you have hit the nail on the head with your second sentence. If you took the time to read the links we post and research you will become more knowledgeable as some of your statements about the middle east are downright lies. And your laugh emos are glib in what is a very serious situation. We are both entitled to our opinions. That does not give anyone the right to accuse me of hating or lying. I take offense to that. I do not lie and I resent you saying that. You are not supposed to get personal in these threads. This kind of poor treatment that I have been getting from people for expressing my opinion is not worth it. I am gone from here. As far as my Laughing emoticons are concerned I am giving some of you people a taste of your own medicine. I have been getting that constantly, particularly from s1owhand. Besides, I have decided not to take anything seriously any more, particularly all this canned propaganda. So its all a big joke to me now. 
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Mon 12/05/11 02:39 AM
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From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews Notice that it says "recreating". They were there first.
Not the same ones. What you have there now may not even be related. Just because their ancestors may have lived there does not give them the right to move in and steal the land now does it? Just for the record I have pointed out to you explicitly that recent genetic studies of DNA evidence show that modern Jews all over the world are in fact genetically connected to those Jews who originally founded Israel. You ignore/debate the DNA evidence!
See my earlier post to you here: http://mingle2.com/topic/show/313856?page=6 Here are the links again... http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/full/nature09103.html Well here is the link again. I just checked it and it works. Maybe you have some problem with your browser settings or pressed the wrong button or something. It was published in Science magazine which is a very reputable Scientific Journal. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5984/1342 Science 11 June 2010: Vol. 328 no. 5984 p. 1342 DOI: 10.1126/science.328.5984.1342 It is also described here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/06/03/the-dna-of-abraham-s-children.html I just tested this link and it works too... But just in case you cannot manage to get these links to work again, here is the excerpt from the above link which gives the name of the journal where one of the studies was published. =-=-=-= Although the origin of the Jews has been traced, archeologically, to the Middle East in the second millennium B.C.E., what happened next has been more opaque. To sort it out, researchers collected DNA from Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Ashkenazi Jews around New York City; Turkish Sephardic Jews in Seattle; Greek Sephardic Jews in Thessaloniki and Athens; and Italian Jews in Rome as part of the Jewish HapMap Project. (All four grandparents of each participant had to have come from the same community.) As the scientists will report in the next issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, the analysis shows that “each of the Jewish populations formed its own distinctive cluster, indicating the shared ancestry and relative genetic isolation of the members of each of those groups.” =-=-=-= And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article. http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6 And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract: =-=-=-= Abstract For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. =-=-=-= Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is a fact.
That ought to help clear it up for you on all fronts. AGAIN. 
Don't say I didn't tell you last month! |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 12/05/11 04:16 AM
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From the late 19th century the Zionist movement worked towards the goal of recreating a homeland for the Jewish people. Israeli independence has been marked by massive immigration of Jews Notice that it says "recreating". They were there first.
Not the same ones. What you have there now may not even be related. Just because their ancestors may have lived there does not give them the right to move in and steal the land now does it? Just for the record I have pointed out to you explicitly that recent genetic studies of DNA evidence show that modern Jews all over the world are in fact genetically connected to those Jews who originally founded Israel. You ignore/debate the DNA evidence!
See my earlier post to you here: http://mingle2.com/topic/show/313856?page=6 Here are the links again... http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/full/nature09103.html Well here is the link again. I just checked it and it works. Maybe you have some problem with your browser settings or pressed the wrong button or something. It was published in Science magazine which is a very reputable Scientific Journal. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5984/1342 Science 11 June 2010: Vol. 328 no. 5984 p. 1342 DOI: 10.1126/science.328.5984.1342 It is also described here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/06/03/the-dna-of-abraham-s-children.html I just tested this link and it works too... But just in case you cannot manage to get these links to work again, here is the excerpt from the above link which gives the name of the journal where one of the studies was published. =-=-=-= Although the origin of the Jews has been traced, archeologically, to the Middle East in the second millennium B.C.E., what happened next has been more opaque. To sort it out, researchers collected DNA from Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Ashkenazi Jews around New York City; Turkish Sephardic Jews in Seattle; Greek Sephardic Jews in Thessaloniki and Athens; and Italian Jews in Rome as part of the Jewish HapMap Project. (All four grandparents of each participant had to have come from the same community.) As the scientists will report in the next issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, the analysis shows that “each of the Jewish populations formed its own distinctive cluster, indicating the shared ancestry and relative genetic isolation of the members of each of those groups.” =-=-=-= And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article. http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6 And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract: =-=-=-= Abstract For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. =-=-=-= Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is a fact.
That ought to help clear it up for you on all fronts. AGAIN.
Don't say I didn't tell you last month! http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=276895&_user=10&_pii=S0002929710002466&_check=y&_coverDate=2010-06-11&view=c&_gw=y&wchp=dGLzVlk-zSkzS&md5=6911cf3ab22fb01510fee07891397de4/1-s2.0-S0002929710002466-main.pdf |
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I do not hate anyone
But I will speak my mind
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Islamic Jew hatred. It's what drives the genocide of the Jews in the Muslim world today. It's what drove the Muslim world in their partnership with Hitler, and it fueled the oppression, humiliation, and slaughter of the Jews throughtout Islamic history.
The role of the Mufti and the Muslim world in World War II has been whitewashed from history. Why? So that they might rise again to commit the same unspeakable, horrific crimes againt humanity? Haj Amin al-Husseini should have been executed at Nuremberg. Instead, he was given the same status of The Jewish Agency at the UN in 1947, when it was debating the partition of the Jewish State, despite the stunning evidence (documents, files, etc.) against him (outlined here) and presented to the UN. According to testimony by Nazi war criminals, the Mufti's influence was critical to the German decision to annihilate the Jews of Europe. At the Nuremberg Trials in July 1946, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified: (here) "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz." Now we find that the Nazis promised the leader of the Muslim world, Haj Amin al-Husseini, leadership of Palestine after slaughter of its Jews, according to a US report. I have long been reporting on the deep ties between the leader of the Muslim world, Haj Amin al-Husseini, and Hitler and the Third Reich. Scroll here: Islam: Instigator, Originator, Collaborator of the Final Solution. The "peace process" is a lie. The Muslim world cannot and will not accept Israel under any circumstances. The "peace process" is Jewish surrender to Isalm in installments. Flashback: Then-leader of the Muslim world, Mufti Haj al-Husseini: In 1943, the Mufti traveled to Bosnia, where he helped to raise a Bosnian Muslim Waffen-SS Hanjar, who slaughtered 90 percent of the Jews in Bosnia…Other Bosnian Muslim units raised by the Mufti were sent to Croatia and Hungary, where they participated in the killing of Jews. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/the-muslim-hitler-haj-amin-al-husseini-was-promised-leadership-of-israel-palestine-after-annihilatio.html 
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