but Cowboy...you claimed that Jesus was the Father

that's why I asked you have many Fathers are in Heaven because according to you there are three Fathers

1)..you have Yahweh who you claim is Jesus's Father which in turn makes Yahweh Grandpa

2)..you have Jesus who you claim is your Father and also The Father Creator

3)...you also believe that it was the holy spirit that was responsible for the conception of Jesus which makes him the father

so that would mean that you believe that there are three fathers who art in Heaven

this clearly goes against the Christian belief ...you may have to turn in your Christian membership ID card

I'm also filing a grievance with the Vatican under section 2247 of the three father who art in Heaven clause that you be Ex-Communicated

Jesus, God the father, and the holy ghost are one. They are God. They are the ones that made the world and run it. God = authority.

Jesus never says "your father, our father, ect" He always says his father.

And The Holy Ghost didn't impregnate Marry. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost not BY the Holy Ghost.

but you have made claims that all three are seperate beings and that two of them are The Father ...and this goes against basic Christian belief that there is only one Father art in Heaven .....

your zeal to make a Man God have you preaching against The Bible and this is what "Revelations" claim that The AntiChrist would do ...but it would be pretty cool if you were The AnthiChrist ....

can I have the movie rights? of course you have to sign the contract in blood

we can split the proceeds 50/50

I have to give 1/3 in taxes
and you have to give 1/3 in taxes and 1/10 in tithe taxes

but we will still have enough lefted over to test if Money is the root of all evil

I'm working on the movie already...."Cowboy The AntiChrist"

here's a video I made so you can caught a glimpse of your power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X06xnccVnrc

if the holy ghost was the "being" that was responsible for Mary being Impregnanted...Then that makes THe Holy Ghost The Father of Jesus

now if you go back to basic Christian belief that the holy ghost is not a being or a god but is the will of God.....then Yahweh The Father once again become The Father of Jesus like the bible meant for it to be

also by claiming that Jesus is the father that would mean that Jesus impregnanted his mother to have himself

they made a movie about this concept called "The Demon Seed"...it was about a computer that turned sentient and impregnanted a woman so he could turned into Flesh ......you won't believe what he placed into the woman as his holy spirit ...

but anyway its the story of Mary Jesus and Joseph, I'm not sure if Mary is a virgin but the computer like God did have sex with her in order to get her pregnant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mj49VF-HvY

You're still not listening Funches. The Holy Ghost didn't impregnate Marry. She was impregnated WITH the Holy Ghost.

Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.



The basic Christian belief is not that the Holy Ghost is the will of God. The Holy Ghost is a being, not the father's will in exacts. That's where the term trinity comes in, that the Holy Ghost, The Father, and Jesus are one. And also while you read you'll notice Holy Ghost is capitalized, it's the title of a being, again, not specifically "God's will".

Isaiah 9:6

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Cowboy wrote:






Once more Cowboy, this SOUNDS like you ARE A CHRISTIAN.....

except...when you say they are ONE, you mean it in an ENTIRELY

DIFFERENT WAY , from what the bible tells us.


According to previous posts you have made on here,You mean they

are ONE ...BUT ONLY as a family of different gods are ONE

FAMILY of GODS.....but all separate entities or gods making up

ONE as a family is One......but not as ONE GOD at all.


Cowboy....According to what you have posted in this forum, you

believe Jesus is our god,and Father God is another God entirely.


In other words, you believe they are 2 entirely separate

beings are entities

ENTIRELY ( and not just separate persons WITHIN One Godhead,

making up ONLY ONE GOD

ALMIGHTY, as Christians believe and as the bible teaches).


When you say You believe they ARE ONE, you MEAN they are One in mind and thought and

will and action ONLY( and again, this is NOT what the bible teaches

at all }...meaning.... you do NOT believe they are ONE GOD.


So be it.

Each is entitled to believe as he/she wishes .


But just letting you know, Cowboy..... this belief of yours is NOT what

the bible teaches AT ALL, and it

is NOT what christians believe AT ALL !!!


But ,I Love You Kiddo,and still believe God WILL make His Word

crystal clesr to you in time.


.....



My prayer is that this thread, which has so many times falsely

represented God's Word, will be laid to rest now.


It would be different if only unbelievers were stating how

they feel on here.....that would be understandable.


But ,to have the bible constantly misrepreseented by someone

who claims to BE a believer ,but whose words clearly reveal

that he truly doesn't understand

the bible yet at all, is another case entirely.





Funches...asking you graciously now, my friend...let this

thread be laid to rest now.....for it seriously disrepects what

christians

truly believe, and what the bible truly teaches us......and

it grieves the Holy Spirit.


Asking very kindly...to please allow this thread to rest now.

Thank You Funches.

Cowboy ...it's the same as saying that The Holy Ghost's tallywhacker didn't get Mary pregant, it was what came out of the holy ghost's tallywhacker that got Mary pregant..

either way the holy ghost's Tallywhacker was used to impregnant Mary

Cowboy...if you make The Holy Spirit a seperate being....that means the Father aka Yahweh is not The Father of Jesus...it means that the Holy Spirit is The Father and the bible and the Universe collapse

but if you make the holy spirit "the will of God" and not God...then everything fits back neatly into place and the universe is saved

Cowboy.....make The Holy Spirit the Will of God ...and save the universe

according to Isaiah...his name will be Immanuel nothing about it being Jesus

if you're going to make a Man God you bests make sure you have the right person...because God is a jealous God ...and just like the HUlK, you don't want to make God angry

MorningSong, to shut down a thread or every thread because you disagree with Cowboy religious views would be religious persection, a more entertaining solution would be to tie Cowboy to a stake and set him ablaze..er...just kidding Cowboy ......er...maybe

but anyway if I decide to shut down this thread, then what's the next thread I'll be asked to shut down, and the next etc. I had a prophecy of my threads being shut down and locked down by The ELOHIM forum moderators of Mingle2, so if I shut down my own threads then those prophecy will never be full filled

also MorningSong you're the only Christian that seem to disagree with Cowboy which means that the rest of the Christians agree with Cowboy's views

I say this because it was Jesus's command to spread the word...which is why it appears that the other Christians believe that Cowboy is ding an excellent job of spreading the word and displaying his faith, also every now and then a Christian pops up and praise Cowboy for his zeal in posting, they would not do this if they felt that Cowboy was spreading a false Gospel

but either way whether Cowboy is right wrong or delusional aren't you suggesting that he give up his "Free Will" to post and debate in what he believes

right or wrong or delusional, Cowboy do have a way of forcing people to read the bible...

Incorrect. God in itself is not a being. "God" is a title to show authority. God the father rules us, made us, ect. Jesus God the son does the will of God the father. So when Jesus does something, it is more or less the father doing it for it is his will. Because if it wasn't the will of the father, Jesus wouldn't do it and or have done it.



No, again "god" is not a being of any sorts. "God" is a title to show authority. They are one "god", they both have authority over us, they are our superiors.

So with that being said, yes the father son and holy ghost are one god. They can not be one entity for while Jesus the son was on the cross, a voice came from the heavens saying "This is my beloved son, in whom I"m well pleased". And Jesus continuously mentioned his father in third party form of way eg., saying "my father this, my father that".

Cowboy..I say this very lovingly, please know this....

but also ,, i say this with deep concern:


Cowboy.....listen.....please listen very carefully......


NOT ONE Spirit filled Believer, who has been Indwelt by the

Holy Spirit, Agrees with any of your teachngs on here.

NOT ONE.


Doesn't that TELL you something??????


Again....What you are teaching on here , is NOT what the bible

says.....it is Cowboy's interpretation ONLY!!!



I can only pray now.

Find and get involved in a good spirit filled church in your area .

God can and will speak thru a sister and brother to reach you

for so long....

but after awhile, we then can do no more...... the rest is

up to you now.


I can do no more now...but will be praying....cause I care.....

but I will not be replying in this thread

anymore.


Take care now.

omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. look up those words if you don't know the meaning. if you say they can not be one entity, than you have just put a limit on what god can do

I'm not arguing out of spite or just because of it, I promise. I'm not being stubborn, or prideful in my own belief(s) over others.

Please explain, how Jesus and God the father can be one entity. I'll give my reasons on why I see them as being two separate physical beings compared to one and you can explain if you will how they are one.

1. How can God and Jesus be of the same physical entity when Jesus sits at the right hand of God? And having received the father. This is speaking of God and Jesus in two different persons.

Acts 2:31-34 31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
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And of course this verse as well. If Jesus and God the father are one entity, this statement right here would be a lie. So please clarify this all for me, I beg of you. Reason I wish to have this clarified specifically is cause I've discussed this with quite a few people.

Matthew 3:17
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

God is all those things.

Omnipresent - present everywhere.
omniscient - Knows everything
Omnipotent - unlimited power.

Ok....I will do one more post on here...after this,

I'll only answer via email

Cowboy, you are made up of a body, soul, and spirit....

all 3 parts of you make up ONLY ONE BEING...not three beings...But ONE.


Now....


God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit...

3 persons within One Godhead,

making Up ONLY ONE ENTITY or ONLY ONE GOD .


See now?

Btw....the example is ONLY given, to show how there can be 3

in ONE..,,that's it....

My body = a vessel. It by itself has no life. Is a containment for my life.
My Soul = My life. This is what is our life, it is what gives us our thoughts. It is "us". This body will die of old age, our souls never will.
My spirit = Is a gift given to me by God, it is God. God is in everyone that accepts him into their heart. When one receives the spirit of God, they are made a new creation eg., they are born again.

This has absolutely nothing to do with The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost being separate entities or one.