So true. I don't know if just getting older gives us more insight but less patience, or other combinations of wisdom, experience, baggage, expectations, desires, and horniness. But we move slower in any case and adjust better ... if we decide to adjust. We now know the difference between love and infatuation, attraction and lust, fear and respect, guns and roses, and a long list of complex attitudes that have stewed in our souppot for decades.

Finding love for older folks is harder because much of what we saw when young was not love. We just thought it was. Being older, we see things we couldn't see when young and now we place importance on characteristics of which we were previously unaware. People mature in different ways.

I see the whole world with different eyes now.

yup in hindsight it is either much easier to go from person to person now because of the online environment or I am just more aware of a casual culture that exists than I was before because the internet has exposed me to that culture

I grew up believing that ALL people grew up got married, had kids ETC

and I see a lot of younger peeps doing just that - so I tend to lean toward the explanation that the internet exposes us to a casual culture that we may not have been aware of otherwise. I for one have no interest in it and just block/delete

internet also poses another interesting conundrum. when in person it is possible to hold a conversation OR several conversations with different men with their being no sexual overtones nor intent, however, it seems online if I talk to a man for more than a few messages, he will start to think that it means something other than just chatting....(whereas if I am interested in him I will usually ask if it means more - I see guys assuming it does - could just be my expereince w/e)

in any case it does get more difficult as one ages and for me, I agree with the pig....it's mostly past experience has taught us to avoid certain red flags and sometimes we do become over cautious - in person as well as online

Good stuff both of you As I was reading Todaysgirl's post, another thought about young peeps occurred...Some (most?) of their casual attitude toward dating and committing can be traced back to us Boomers and the Sexual Revolution, 60's - 80's....It is no secret that baby boomers were the "It's all about me generation"...We are the generation that made disposable marriages, casual sex, and shacking up popular...

maybe for a time in certain subcultures but beginning in the mid seventies the "make love not war" thing kinda died down (coincidentally also when Vietnam ended)

I do agree that "alternatives" became more socially acceptable and that is positive (such as dads staying home, women exersizing more choices and relationships were examined more in depth -we didn't automatically marry our HS sweethearts cuz "mom said so" any more)

even with all of that casual sex was not really that widely accepted among my peers....except as the occasional "accident"... and that could also be because my upbringing was conservative.

the "Berkley type" subculture was really pretty short lived. I was too young for it anyway....but ya it did loosen things up from the attitudes of the 40s & 50s - definitely

I too was raised conservatively and I remember feeling like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole plenty of times...Especially when it came to sex and drugs...And I was no angel and I didn't go to Berkley.....I also remember when Aids hit the scene...I think that fact alone played a much bigger role in ending the Sexual Revolution than moral capacity or what youth considered "hip"...

I still believe "Make Love not War" just not in the physical aspect. Just meaning have a peaceful caring heart nand do care for war altho it is inevitable in this world. Think HIV has had a big part of my feelings of casual sex and dating. But also I respect myself more as I have gotten older, that started when I had children..life changed. I also agree we have seen and lived through more and know the red flags (or at least try to see them) and think we are truly looking for more in our partner than when young.
Think my biggest fear is that relationships build memories that then when we do get "really" old LOL we can reminisce about and the longer it takes to find the special one is less time to make memories.
I am patiently waiting for the "one" while enjoying life and what it has to offer with friends and family.

Nah; not jaded;just old. Not pretty enough, not thin enough, and not dumb enough. Its their loss not ours.

WANTED OVER 50 LADY:

Innocent, pretty, slim, naive(LOL)

Good luck with that!

Well; there you go. Start looking for 18 year olds.

Hi every reader of this note. Am I along on this, I don't think age 50 is considered older, when I was fifty I had my choice in what I wanted in a man, be it quanity, or quality, not so at age 67.

Well; I am 50 and I certainly don't have my choice in men. The guys my age simply aren't interested in me at my age. So; all I can do is accept and live out my life by myself.

I've dated women between 18 and 35 all my life. I've tried chatting up women closer to my age now, but they freeze up, turn their backs to me and just don't offer the least bit of encouragement. In fact, many have been pretty rude. So, I went back to talking to the young ones where I'm welcomed.

Maybe I'm too immature, maybe they think I'm ugly, maybe I'm too tall, maybe I dress to well and come off as a "player." It doesn't matter because I can only date women that want to date me. And if one age group finds me repulsive and another doesn't I have no other option than finding my next date among the later.

What really gets me though, is that those same women that were rude to me will talk trash about me for dating women so much younger!

welcome to the over 50's May I answer your post? It's just my own opinion and not meant to be offensive. I only want to tell you as an older woman why I would not have anything to do with you as someone to date. You would probably be a friend, but nothing more.

I've read your posts..and you do come off as arrogant . I can only speak for myself. In my younger days..I knew men that had the same 'self awareness' as you have. We called it 'ego' and the person thinking they were 'God's Gift' to women.
I don't know how tall you are or how ugly..I've never read your profile, only your posts. And after reading your posts, I was not interested in reading your profile. I agree with some of the things I read you say..some..while at the same time, being an 'older' woman , I just shake my head at the arrogant statements you make, and feel sorry for the women you date.
We each have the total right to date or have relationships with the people and age groups we prefer. You are true to yourself and that I applaud.

I do not think I'm god's gift to women, but I may come across as arrogant sometimes. I am confident, I do think I'm better looking than most men (even many of those half my age). But, I also put a lot of effort into looking as good as I can. Most men do not. I'm also pretty self assured that I have everything I need to find the woman I'm looking for.

I do admit when I'm wrong. But, you may not see that here because when I post something it's usually on a subject I know about and have studied. My silly side doesn't come out in the forums often. But, I assure you, I have one.

I didn't even know there was an over 50 forum until I stumbled across my subscription settings this morning. Otherwise I'd have been here a year ago.

There is usually more to a person that what meets the eye. Being self assured is a good thing. A lot of people lack that in themselves. You may not think you are "God's Gift", but you come across as thinking that..I'm just saying this is how I see you, it may not be as you really are.
I would be willing to bet that I have had as much experience with the opposite sex as you have., maybe more as I am older than you...and believe me when I say..there is a reason we are single. lol
You may have what it takes to find the woman you're looking for..so why haven't you? There is no perfect person out there..there are some that come close, but are never perfect.
We're glad you found the 50's forums..welcome again to 'the other side'

I thought I had found the right girl, but she wasn't strong enough emotionally to deal with me being a truck driver and gone so much of the time.

These days I'm not really looking for this same reason. I'm away from home for 4 to 6 weeks at a time. Not many women want a man that's never there except the ones just looking for Mr, Right Now. So, I'm Mr. Right Now.

Seems like you have a pretty good handle on things..Absence is never easy. Good luck to you.

Most of the Old men like sex without love.

Gee...I can't help but wonder where everyone gets their information. In my world..everyone is looking for love..but can't find the right person to love, we're all so picky. Sex without love is just sex. without the pretense. I don't know of anyone who would turn it down if offered, under the right circumstances. Older people are just more picky about who they have sex with.