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Topic: Supermodel Kathy Ireland Lashes Out Against Pro Choice
adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:19 AM



and regardless of the stage of development flowerforyou
and i think that men should have the right
to have their say here too
maybe they don't get pregnant
but some men are more into parenthood :heart:
than their female counterparts ohwell
and they should have the right to be a Father too drinker drinker drinker
too hypothetical
men can have a say
but the woman has the decision to make

it takes two to tango :tongue:
and just because we ladies give birth flowerforyou
unlike seahorses where the male gives birth laugh
I think that the man's rights for parenthood should be considered :heart:

men are no longer a necessity but a commodity when it comes to becoming pregnant

just because we have been given the gift ..flowerforyou
and let me reiterate ....it is a very precious gift ....drinker
and not to be taken lightly noway
and here again...flowerforyou
i am not talking to any one in particular noway flowerforyou noway

I take nothing personally on these forums, I come, share and try to learn the motives of others and their reasoning. So no harm done here

but...drinker
Just because We ladies have been given the exquisite Gift flowerforyou
of bringing new life into the world drinker
it doesn't mean that we have the exclusive right noway
to determine if that baby lives or dies sad sad sad
totally disagree
my body
my womb
my choice

and please do not tell me that I haven't been in the situation flowerforyou
because i have not shared any of my personal experiences noway
so flowerforyou
no one can tell me that i don't know what i am talking about noway
i had three children before many of you were even born flowerforyou
or out of diapers :wink:
and before many of you were out of adolescence flowerforyou
I am just trying to protect the unborn babies :heart: :heart: :heart:
and to protect their right to live drinker

so then with this last statement, you too would agree that as you know of your situations - you made the right decision for you, not someone else, correct?

you made decisions that were right for you, why would you want to take away anyone's rights to do whats right for them?



now those are interpretations and opinions

great examples

drinker flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:19 AM
<---impressed fran did a full break down lol

Rapunzel's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:20 AM
oh and by the way Adj....:wink:


I am a Libran Lady flowerforyou


so i am constantly weighing things drinker


and looking for justice wherever I can find it :heart:

willing2's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:21 AM
In the case of a gal getting impregnated in the course of consensual sex. If she decides she doesn't want kids, the male part should have a right to protest an abortion and win custody of the unborn child.

franshade's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:22 AM


rapunzel..whatever your experiences were...YOU made the choice. not everyone feels that way and should have the right to their own choice



flowerforyou i understand that ...& i am proud of my decisions flowerforyou


but we are not talking about the choices of the color of carpet ohwell


or what dress to wear today ...frown


we are talking about human life flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou


and people can try to disguise it , but the truth remains flowerforyou





I still have the right to say it is wrong drinker






everyone has to face the repercussions of their actions flowerforyou


whether they be goodhappy or bad...sad



and deal with the choices we make drinker


it doesn't mean that we are doomed to forever damnation noway


or that God will not forgive us for our mistakes :cry:


that is why Christ Died on the Cross sad


to take on all the sins of the World :heart: :heart: :heart:


and so i am not judging anyone noway noway noway


i don't know any of you well enough to make an assumption ohwell


or to gather any real opinions of any of you noway


God is the Judge and He will execute justice once and for all :angel: :thumbsup: :angel:


I am His Child making observations & opinions flowerforyou


and bringing a very tender subject to the forefront drinker


to offer love and understanding flowerforyou


and to help encourage women :heart: :heart: :heart:


who are in a situation they feel tears


that they cannot get out of sad


to adopt rather than abort :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:





This is a chance to get it right next time drinker :heart: drinker


so that we don't keep making the same mistakes noway


We could debate this till we are blue in the face...frown


but in certain things I am not flexible flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


ohhh rapunzel you have just about
















as much rights

















as the rest of us
















we can agree to























disagree


















but let's do it
























so it's easy to read





















for us all

franshade's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:22 AM

now those are interpretations and opinions

great examples

drinker flowerforyou


nope those are facts according to me

tongue2

Winx's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:23 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 05/20/09 10:23 AM
Dang, this whole page is one big scroll fest.laugh



franshade's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:24 AM

<---impressed fran did a full break down lol


:banana: and I can break dance too : banana:

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:25 AM
Edited by adj4u on Wed 05/20/09 10:26 AM

<---impressed fran did a full break down lol


oops offtopic

hey davey and i have done that

what you are not impressed when guys do it

or is it you expect it from guys and feel women would not know how

:wink: laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl rofl

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:31 AM
don't read more into what i have said


than exactly what i have said

and

what you fail to see


is that i advocate life


and there is no dissecting that


and i have known of women who have given birth as a result of rape


and the child is perfect & as innocent as any other baby


and i know of women who have had babies

despite what the doctors have said

that their health would be compromised

and that just didn't happen


so you can't always believe doctors...



and i happen to know of a 34 year old lady who just passed away

in April this year after giving birth to her fourth child

and that is sad, soo sad sad sad sad


but life is full of chances that we take drinker


and she loved God :heart: and She wanted this baby :heart:


and we don't know what really will happen noway


but i still think happy


no matter how many people oppose me flowerforyou


that when we start playing God :angel:


and justifying it huh


we are running into mighty big problems scared







Rapunzel's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:32 AM



rapunzel..whatever your experiences were...YOU made the choice. not everyone feels that way and should have the right to their own choice



flowerforyou i understand that ...& i am proud of my decisions flowerforyou


but we are not talking about the choices of the color of carpet ohwell


or what dress to wear today ...frown


we are talking about human life flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou


and people can try to disguise it , but the truth remains flowerforyou





I still have the right to say it is wrong drinker






everyone has to face the repercussions of their actions flowerforyou


whether they be goodhappy or bad...sad



and deal with the choices we make drinker


it doesn't mean that we are doomed to forever damnation noway


or that God will not forgive us for our mistakes :cry:


that is why Christ Died on the Cross sad


to take on all the sins of the World :heart: :heart: :heart:


and so i am not judging anyone noway noway noway


i don't know any of you well enough to make an assumption ohwell


or to gather any real opinions of any of you noway


God is the Judge and He will execute justice once and for all :angel: :thumbsup: :angel:


I am His Child making observations & opinions flowerforyou


and bringing a very tender subject to the forefront drinker


to offer love and understanding flowerforyou


and to help encourage women :heart: :heart: :heart:


who are in a situation they feel tears


that they cannot get out of sad


to adopt rather than abort :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:





This is a chance to get it right next time drinker :heart: drinker


so that we don't keep making the same mistakes noway


We could debate this till we are blue in the face...frown


but in certain things I am not flexible flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


ohhh rapunzel you have just about
















as much rights

















as the rest of us
















we can agree to























disagree


















but let's do it
























so it's easy to read





















for us all





hugs & love to you Fran flowers


adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:32 AM
genetics
1. Biology. the science of heredity, studying resemblances and differences in related organisms and the mechanisms which explain these phenomena.
2. the genetic properties and phenomena of an organism.


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when does the genes that are a product of the father of the human get transferred to the person that is going to be born

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm

and if they are transferred at conception then that should prove they are (man/men thus human) and the doi protect their right to life

now that is an interpretation but i think it is a good one

:wink:

Winx's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:32 AM
Nobody thinks that abortions are good.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:33 AM


<---impressed fran did a full break down lol


oops offtopic

hey davey and i have done that

what you are not impressed when guys do it

or is it you expect it from guys and feel women would not know how

:wink: laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl rofl

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


laugh because I expect you 2 to do that...not frannie (not that she couldn't I just haven't seen it often lol)


adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:35 AM
Edited by adj4u on Wed 05/20/09 10:37 AM
never mind

hugz winx






adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:36 AM



<---impressed fran did a full break down lol


oops offtopic

hey davey and i have done that

what you are not impressed when guys do it

or is it you expect it from guys and feel women would not know how

:wink: laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl rofl

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


laugh because I expect you 2 to do that...not frannie (not that she couldn't I just haven't seen it often lol)





:wink: flowerforyou flowerforyou drinker drinker

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:37 AM


Nobody thinks that abortions are good.


until you have to have one how can you say that :wink: laugh

was it not you that says no one can know till the circumstance makes itself present :wink:








laugh i think that was me. but I understand what she is saying...they may not be good but until they are in certain circumstances....it feels like that is the only choice or the best choice to make....but doesn't mean they think it's a good thing. I wouldn't throw a party for it

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:41 AM



Nobody thinks that abortions are good.


until you have to have one how can you say that :wink: laugh

was it not you that says no one can know till the circumstance makes itself present :wink:








laugh i think that was me. but I understand what she is saying...they may not be good but until they are in certain circumstances....it feels like that is the only choice or the best choice to make....but doesn't mean they think it's a good thing. I wouldn't throw a party for it


hey i erased it

before you posted this

wa wa wa

i thought better of leaving it as no good could come of it

grumble grumble grumble dang quotes anyway

franshade's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:43 AM
Rapunzel - I am an advocate of protecting rights, mine and yours

you have the right to feel as you so choose as do I

Is your message more important than mine - no
Is mine more important than yours - no

Bear in mind that in this setting where we can only read the message, the presentation can be a deterrent. jmo

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:43 AM
pitchfork adj...i'm just quicker than you I guess :laughing:

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