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| Topic: Supermodel Kathy Ireland Lashes Out Against Pro Choice | |
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Edited by
SKPCG
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Wed 05/13/09 10:06 AM
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I can appreciate a pro-lifer's feelings and opinions, but I maintain pro-choice. After all, it's a HUMAN WOMAN'S RIGHT'S ISSUE. I believe abortion should not be done capriciously or as a woman's only source of birth control, that if a woman consistently uses this as her means of birth control, she should be forced into sterilization somehow. But, still, I will not push my "belief system" or become another's decision maker simply because of my conscience or stance. I will not tell a rape victim, "Too bad, have the creep's offspring anyway!" or, "So what if you live with a deformed child. Handle it.". And, seriously, are HUMAN rights worth more than animal rights? Do we next stop sterilizing animals as they have the burden to procreate simply because it's natural to do so? I don't LIKE that women are put into the position of ever having to make such a choice, but I thank GOD, yep, the same God a woman has to get square with, that women have that choice. It's HUMAN NATURE. Sorry but I do not agree that human rights are worth more than nature's rights. I actually think nature's right are worth more than human rights. I can appreciate your view on this. But humans have always been about training and manipulating nature, from trying to prevent forest fires and weather-proofing our sheltering to stem-cell research and cloning, agriculture, herding, etc. |
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I agree that bombing abortion clinics is JUST AS WRONG as abortion (IMO)... I have always stressed education & contraception as a better method. If the MILITANT Pro-Lifers would consider & FUND these educational tactics & adoptions...I believe they would be doing a better service to Humanity...instead of heated protests & picketting.
But I also have to say, that AT THIS MOMENT the so-called RIGHT to abortion is the law of the land...& you cannot tailor-make the laws...ie: Abortion should be permitted "in SOME cases"... There is no easy solution...I am merely stating MY feelings on this matter...I will NOT debate what another woman decides to do with HER body...& her CHILD'S body...that is not my right to decide...I am only saying what I CHOOSE to do with MY body. Whatever side of this coin you are on...if you aren't part of the solution...you ARE part of the problem...& I believe that education is a better way... |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Wed 05/13/09 10:18 AM
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there are so many variations on this theme...
I know i have my old fashioned Catholic Upbringing... i saw the hypocrisy there at a very early age & i have gone much much further past that & really have tried to open my mind and broaden my horizons to many other things 
although i do honor the sanctity of life very much 
I know that these are tough times financially 
some women who are alone or with a man who cannot or who doesn't support them feel scared to bring a baby into the world they cannot afford , 
and i can totally understand that... 
it must be horrible.. 
but God does have ways of providing even in the gloomiest of circumstances and now there are resources available... Up in Washington there is a store of nice used items called <<< Celebrate life >>> and the nicest people work there and all of the proceeds go to single Mothers for formula and bottles and diapers and counseling & help with other needs a young Mother & baby would have
so, there are solutions & ways out of bad situations and I have even known of women 
who gave birth to babies even as a result of rape and the children are just as innocent & precious
as those conceived in loving consentual circumstances..
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there are circunstances where it's no one business to tell the woman what to do. as far as using it as a form of birth control...i'm iffy on. there should be more counseling available before and after. maybe it should be mandatory before getting an abortion so it isn't used for birth control
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Wed 05/13/09 10:25 AM
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yea , i agree ,,,
i knew of one woman who said she had two abortions
cause her boyfriend wouldn't use a condom.... 
that is just plain nauseating  & it happens a lot in this world 
so many people want to cover up irreponsible behavior
and defend & disguise it by saying " it is my right !!! "
well, a lot of things are within our rights unfortunately
but it doesn't make them < right > to do 
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IMO...that example is using abortion as birth control because of lack of judegment on their parts. there are other circumstances that most can't understand else they go through it themselves....and until they go through it...shouldn't decide what to do
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but still ....I believe that
God should be the One Ultimately in Charge  
he is the Supreme Giver and the Taker of Life
Not Us...
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whether people agree or disagree it remains legally a woman's choice
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fran...you are right.
i don't agree with using it as birth control IMO and think there should be before and after counseling but those that are pregnant do to rape or incest...or if a life is in danger because of it...that should be up to them and them alone |
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I have more issues with those that break the law than with those who make legal choices regardless to whether I agree or disagree.
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whether people agree or disagree it remains legally a woman's choice Not to mention that abortions carry a risk of sterility, moreso with each one. let them, it will end up making them infertile. That's not unconstitutional. And it's merciful for the fetus they carry, each time. |
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fran...i speak from experience and it is not a pleasant experience. it can traumatist (need for counseling) but there are some that could care less. I won't take away their rights under the law. i would like to see counseling added before and after
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whether people agree or disagree it remains legally a woman's choice Not to mention that abortions carry a risk of sterility, moreso with each one. let them, it will end up making them infertile. That's not unconstitutional. And it's merciful for the fetus they carry, each time. Abortion(s) will not make someone infertile - the chances are there just as the chance of being born sterile are there. |
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I did not say they make a person infertile. I said carry they carry the risk, then I made a joke.
To be clear I looked up the statistics and it says it causes sterility in 2-5% of cases. |
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fran...i speak from experience and it is not a pleasant experience. it can traumatist (need for counseling) but there are some that could care less. I won't take away their rights under the law. i would like to see counseling added before and after I hear you Rose
Counseling can't hurt but should not be mandatory, but elective. jmo |
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I did not say they make a person infertile. I said carry they carry the risk, then I made a joke. To be clear I looked up the statistics and it says it causes sterility in 2-5% of cases. hey Lilith, trust me I got it - and I too responded w/a joke. what in life doesn't carry any risk 
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it is risky in that way (sterilizing them) but mentally can be more horrific. which is why I really wish there was couseling
i'm not talking about counseling as in...you are wrong....don't so this...yadda yadda yadda...but more of what to expect and IF someone needs to talk more...then it's there. maybe even give them a short sex ed class (for some again) so they won't be in that position again. not only is it hard physically, mentally, and emotionally...but it's expensive |
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Hell no.... there is little risk of meeting a mate through Internet dating, that's for sure!
I say yay for scar tissue! |
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Hell no.... there is little risk of meeting a mate through Internet dating, that's for sure!
I say yay for scar tissue!  I cede and stand corrected
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<----met a registered sex offender on another dating site
so ....can be scarey...especially if they stalk you  sorry...i'm rambling lol
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