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| Topic: Supermodel Kathy Ireland Lashes Out Against Pro Choice | |
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you are interpreting what is written i am taking it as literal again if you take it literally then your lose your arguement big time and the document really means nothing at all. and i knew you crossed threads i was teasing ya I assumed which is why I responded in kind 
but who is anyone to say what they meant This is where the study part comes in. There is much known about the authors based on what was written about them at the time and other things they themselves have said. Those writings and that personal information is what experts in the field have used to determine the intent of those words. And even if you wish to take it literally well then the fact that the chose to capitalize the word Creator means that they are using it as if it were a name like God rather than god. So a literal interpretation really does bring the same meaning. i quoted what they said you made your interpretation of what you think they said Not my interpretation 
so i applied your interpretation as it could be applied Yes and I showed you were even taking it to that silly degree you were still wrong about it being illegal based on the DoI. but you admit it is an interpretation any interpretation is outranked by literal |
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you are interpreting what is written i am taking it as literal again if you take it literally then your lose your arguement big time and the document really means nothing at all. and i knew you crossed threads i was teasing ya I assumed which is why I responded in kind
but who is anyone to say what they meant This is where the study part comes in. There is much known about the authors based on what was written about them at the time and other things they themselves have said. Those writings and that personal information is what experts in the field have used to determine the intent of those words. And even if you wish to take it literally well then the fact that the chose to capitalize the word Creator means that they are using it as if it were a name like God rather than god. So a literal interpretation really does bring the same meaning. i quoted what they said you made your interpretation of what you think they said Not my interpretation
so i applied your interpretation as it could be applied Yes and I showed you were even taking it to that silly degree you were still wrong about it being illegal based on the DoI. but you admit it is an interpretation any interpretation is outranked by literal Our entire legal system is and always has been based on interpretation. You can choose literal if you like but it's really quite useless since nothing works that way. And again literal or interpreted the DoI does not make abortion illegal. |
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that is your opinion
and you are entitled to it 
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rapunzel...I love davey and adj both....and love watching 2 smart men go at it...now if we only had a mud pit for them to wrestle in
Love?!  
good winx...get the rumors going lol love the pics rapunzel!! oh boy rose LOVES me wooo hhhoooooooooo 
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ok you 2...kiss and make up
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ok you 2...kiss and make up
come 'ere rose
i am not upset with daveyb in the least nothing wrong with a good discussion |
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any interpretation is outranked by literal I forget myself. Your "literal" idea what what it mean is also still wrong. for the phrase to be literally meaning parents it would have to have been written as "that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their creators with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, etc.." I trust you can see the changes to effect the meaning you wanted, but of course that is not what our constitution says. So still wrong |
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ok you 2...kiss and make up
Why? I'm havin' fun |
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ok you 2...kiss and make up
come 'ere rose
i am not upset with daveyb in the least nothing wrong with a good discussion Ditto... and you're still wrong
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any interpretation is outranked by literal I forget myself. Your "literal" idea what what it mean is also still wrong. for the phrase to be literally meaning parents it would have to have been written as "that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their creators with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, etc.." I trust you can see the changes to effect the meaning you wanted, but of course that is not what our constitution says. So still wrong see definition # two men Noun the plural of man man (mn) n. pl. men (mn) 1. An adult male human. 2. A human regardless of sex or age; a person. the free dictionary |
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ok you 2...kiss and make up
come 'ere rose
i am not upset with daveyb in the least nothing wrong with a good discussion Ditto... and you're still wrong
ditto |
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i know you 2 aren't mad at each other...but still want you 2 to kiss and make up. i have my camera (good blackmail pics)
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ditto ditto ditto...infinaty...you are both wrong and i'm right ...so there
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any interpretation is outranked by literal I forget myself. Your "literal" idea what what it mean is also still wrong. for the phrase to be literally meaning parents it would have to have been written as "that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their creators with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, etc.." I trust you can see the changes to effect the meaning you wanted, but of course that is not what our constitution says. So still wrong see definition # two men Noun the plural of man man (mn) n. pl. men (mn) 1. An adult male human. 2. A human regardless of sex or age; a person. the free dictionary Sorry I thought you would see the important changes and not latch on to that one minor change to insure proper-literal reading. The important change was the lower case 'c' in creator and the pluralization of that same word. Literally speaking "creators" would be parents, "Creator" would mean a deity. |
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any interpretation is outranked by literal I forget myself. Your "literal" idea what what it mean is also still wrong. for the phrase to be literally meaning parents it would have to have been written as "that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their creators with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, etc.." I trust you can see the changes to effect the meaning you wanted, but of course that is not what our constitution says. So still wrong see definition # two men Noun the plural of man man (mn) n. pl. men (mn) 1. An adult male human. 2. A human regardless of sex or age; a person. the free dictionary Sorry I thought you would see the important changes and not latch on to that one minor change to insure proper-literal reading. The important change was the lower case 'c' in creator and the pluralization of that same word. Literally speaking "creators" would be parents, "Creator" would mean a deity. unless their were those that believed their parents were a deity as you said God or deity earlier in your posts and yes you are still wrong
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Edited by
adj4u
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Mon 05/18/09 10:46 PM
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and if one is an atheist who is the Creator as mentioned in the doi
must be the parent as they are the one that created the cell if their is no god or deity and if Creator is the parent for the atheist as no other creator is available for them --- then separation of church and state applies to make parent the creator over all point and game |
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and if one is an atheist who is the Creator as mentioned in the doi must be the parent as they are the one that created the cell if their is no god or deity and if Creator is the parent for the atheist as no other creator is available for them --- then separation of church and state applies to make parent the creator over all point and game No matter if they are the creator with the rights to give life then certainly they have the right to take it away. No matter how you spin it the DoI still does not make abortion illegal. No point no game
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and if one is an atheist who is the Creator as mentioned in the doi must be the parent as they are the one that created the cell if their is no god or deity and if Creator is the parent for the atheist as no other creator is available for them --- then separation of church and state applies to make parent the creator over all point and game No matter if they are the creator with the rights to give life then certainly they have the right to take it away. No matter how you spin it the DoI still does not make abortion illegal. No point no game
no it says no where that they have the right to take life that is your assumption till you can prove otherwise yes it does and yes it is just because one can give does not give them the right ot take it back if you give someone a car (and the title) you can not legally go take it back with out hem giving you permission thus they can not give you permission until such time you can communicate with them |
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I think it should be called Pro choice and ANTI choice, cause it makes us folks that believe a woman SHOULD have the say so over her own body sound like we are pro death!!! I hate abortion but I also hate the thought of having the Govt. tell us what we Can and cant do in regards to what we do with our own bodies!!! Life IS precious but just as precious is the say so over our OWN physical decisions!!! AND Nessa my prayers are still with your Mom!!! 
thank you soo much for your prayers Mikey
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