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Topic: Your child is smoking pot
yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:30 AM
not everyone agrees that is the reason it's illegal. my brother in law is an advocate for making it legal. when he retires...he is going back to smoking it. so YES i do understand all sides...but I am strong in my opinion on this.

lie it or not or whether you think it's illegal for whatever reason....isn't really the point...it's illegal...end of story and i have taught my son to respect the laws and rules. if he doesn't agree then work to change it. but if he breaks them...he needs to know he will face the music for his actions.

but pot is a crutch just like any other things out there. my son runs or finds another way to relax and deal with stress and problems.

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:34 AM
pot is just an intoxicant like many others

if a person allows drinking alcohol but condemns pot then they are just trying to force their own preference on people

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:47 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 03/26/09 10:51 AM
***quote edited...Mark***

Well, since you had to ask that first question, it's obvious that you don't know me well on here.

I'm not stuck in my own little world, btw. Like I said before, I've worked in a drug rehab. I have a friend in recovery and have attended NA meetings with them.

I will not condone allowing my child to smoke pot. It is not good for a child's developing brain, it's illegal, and they need to develop their own coping skills.


Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/26/09 12:00 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 03/26/09 12:01 PM
flowerforyou we have gone over this soo many times before flowerforyou


happy and everyone is entitled to their own opinions happy





drinker :I'd like to say before i embark flowerforyou on my newest journey drinker


smokin in reply to my Friend Lee drinker who began this thread smokin


smokin smokin smokin Your Child is smoking pot smokin smokin smokin


laugh My reply is ...Yes....a couple of them do laugh

drinker and so do many other kids..bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile and what else is new ??? drinker

I am sorry that others have had such terrible problems sad

with hard core drug & hard core alcohol use and abuse tears

but it doesn't happen to everyone noway



my Kids are grown drinker and they are very much on their own flowerforyou

and they are doing more than fine happy and their track record proves it drinker


so people can talk about this or that ohwell


but the proof is in the pudding flowerforyou & our Pudding is just fine drinker



despite such adversity in so many ways tears We have been losing so many people to death tears

and my Children lost their own Daddy to Death sad and still they remain on the path & are doing okay drinker


they are doing fine and had a history of partaking in sacred herb smokin



sooo not everyone finds herb to be negative noway and our lives speak for themselves drinker







and i hope that all people's lives go as great happy :heart: happy and i pray that everyone finds balance & happiness in their lives flowerforyou drinker flowerforyou











FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:14 PM

I see it in my own neighborhood. 20 yr olds still trying to get through highschool because all they want to do is smoke pot all day. but people seem to forget....as of right now it is ILLEGAL. until that changes, then i won't encourage my son to do something illegal


Don't give them an excuse as to why they are just plain lazy. I've known hundreds of people that went through and graduated school on time even with being high. This is what is wrong, now we have a patsy to blame everyone not doing anything on...and that is exactly what marijuana is, a drug that we blame when people are just plain out lazy.

When sober people do it we call it lazy, when someone that smokes weed does it we call them a stoner...see where I'm going?

scorpio90's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:18 PM
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FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:20 PM

:tongue:


I am the gateway drug.smokin

no photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:26 PM
Dominoes were recently discovered to be the gateway drug ... shocked


Streuth !!!



Barbie and GI Joe are unable to console their collective unconscious grief ... sad




Psst : Mum's the word friends ... smokin



Pass it on ... drinks

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:27 PM


I see it in my own neighborhood. 20 yr olds still trying to get through highschool because all they want to do is smoke pot all day. but people seem to forget....as of right now it is ILLEGAL. until that changes, then i won't encourage my son to do something illegal


Don't give them an excuse as to why they are just plain lazy. I've known hundreds of people that went through and graduated school on time even with being high. This is what is wrong, now we have a patsy to blame everyone not doing anything on...and that is exactly what marijuana is, a drug that we blame when people are just plain out lazy.

When sober people do it we call it lazy, when someone that smokes weed does it we call them a stoner...see where I'm going?


actually...THEY are the ones that say this. Their own parents say this (but do nithing about it)

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:29 PM



I see it in my own neighborhood. 20 yr olds still trying to get through highschool because all they want to do is smoke pot all day. but people seem to forget....as of right now it is ILLEGAL. until that changes, then i won't encourage my son to do something illegal


Don't give them an excuse as to why they are just plain lazy. I've known hundreds of people that went through and graduated school on time even with being high. This is what is wrong, now we have a patsy to blame everyone not doing anything on...and that is exactly what marijuana is, a drug that we blame when people are just plain out lazy.

When sober people do it we call it lazy, when someone that smokes weed does it we call them a stoner...see where I'm going?


actually...THEY are the ones that say this. Their own parents say this (but do nithing about it)


It's a patsy, they or the parents are using it as an excuse. If they were just lazy then they would be called lazy, now they have a substance to blame. So now they are stoners.

Again; sober, lazy...high, stoner. Can't have it both ways it is either one or the other, we can't just blame something because it is luxoriously there.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:31 PM
since you don't know them....you are wrong. I've known several of these kids since they were young. they grew up with my son and niece.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:37 PM

since you don't know them....you are wrong. I've known several of these kids since they were young. they grew up with my son and niece.


Keep giving them an excuse to be lazy then, what do I care?

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:42 PM


since you don't know them....you are wrong. I've known several of these kids since they were young. they grew up with my son and niece.


Keep giving them an excuse to be lazy then, what do I care?


I don't need to give them an excuse. they are their parents problem not mine. what adults do....is up to them, but not my kid. period...case closed

SilkieButterfly's photo
Sat 03/28/09 04:23 PM



Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.


Everybody can be bought, sold, and traded. Not that I codone children smoking pot in anyway, just saying that facts have been paid for with money more than once in history.


I can spot facts that are biased - on both sides. I worked in drug rehab at the VA Hospital. I've been to NA meetings with a friend.


Winx, I have to say this, and you probably won't like it, but I'm going to. Let me start first by saying I think you sound like a wonderful mother and I don't disagree with anything you have said AS A MOTHER. However, I think you are rather stereotypical for someone who supposedly works for a hospital, has worked for rehabs, etc. Just because you work with addicts and alcoholics, and have attended a few meetings with friends, aquaintances etc...does NOT make you an expert on the matter. You still lack the experience.

Now, your ignorance on some matters has gotten rather annoying. Let me clarify some things as a past meth addict myself. Alcohol, cigarrets and Marijuana never led me to try meth. ME, MYSELF, and I LED ME TO TRY METH! Period. The problem with the "program" is this: A few people are addicts, A few people are Alcoholics, A Few people are dually diagnosed with both. Now, because the people with both can't do either they automatically assume that people with one or the other cannot either. So how do we keep the dually diagnosed from fallin off the wagon? Brainwash everyone that if you do one or the other, you can't do anything else or you will fall off the wagon too. B.S!!

The other problem: Susie is an alcoholic, she goes out and smokes some pot and then ends up drinking. Susie is still somewhat in denial about her alcohol problem and she needs a scapegoat for her drinking. Susie claims Pot made her drink because she wasn't thinking properly. Now Susie is an addict too because she can't do drugs without drinking. The Reality: If Susie was working her program, the pot wouldn't have made any difference because Susie would still have said no to drinking because she knows she has a problem.

Let's get even more in depth here. I am allergic to asprin. I know it makes me sick and uncomfortable so I don't take it ever. I am drinking one night, or smoking pot and I get a headache and someone offers me an asprin. Do I take the asprin because I am not "thinking right". No. I say I'm sorry Asprin makes me very sick, I can't have it. If you can say no to something that will harm or kill you while intoxicated, you can say no to anything else that is bad for you too.

I have drank a few times, and I've smoked pot over the years, NEVER EVER have I had a lapse in judgement and accepted Meth, even when offered to me. It's like the asprin. I know it's bad for me and leads to bad things, so I say no I can't do that stuff.

Why go into this big long spiel? Simple. Winx, it's people like you who enable the people like suzie to say the pot made me take something I shouldn't have. Stereotypes are horrible and can cause people who don't know any better to be misinformed. It also causes manipulative and connviving people to have yet one more excuse to add to their entourage of reasons they do not have to take responsibility for the things they do.

There is no such thing as a gateway drug. People just need something to blame for their irresponsible actions in life.

Filmfreek's photo
Sat 03/28/09 04:33 PM

Winx's photo
Sat 03/28/09 05:35 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 03/28/09 05:38 PM




Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.


Everybody can be bought, sold, and traded. Not that I codone children smoking pot in anyway, just saying that facts have been paid for with money more than once in history.


I can spot facts that are biased - on both sides. I worked in drug rehab at the VA Hospital. I've been to NA meetings with a friend.


Winx, I have to say this, and you probably won't like it, but I'm going to. Let me start first by saying I think you sound like a wonderful mother and I don't disagree with anything you have said AS A MOTHER. However, I think you are rather stereotypical for someone who supposedly works for a hospital, has worked for rehabs, etc. Just because you work with addicts and alcoholics, and have attended a few meetings with friends, aquaintances etc...does NOT make you an expert on the matter. You still lack the experience.

Now, your ignorance on some matters has gotten rather annoying. Let me clarify some things as a past meth addict myself. Alcohol, cigarrets and Marijuana never led me to try meth. ME, MYSELF, and I LED ME TO TRY METH! Period. The problem with the "program" is this: A few people are addicts, A few people are Alcoholics, A Few people are dually diagnosed with both. Now, because the people with both can't do either they automatically assume that people with one or the other cannot either. So how do we keep the dually diagnosed from fallin off the wagon? Brainwash everyone that if you do one or the other, you can't do anything else or you will fall off the wagon too. B.S!!

The other problem: Susie is an alcoholic, she goes out and smokes some pot and then ends up drinking. Susie is still somewhat in denial about her alcohol problem and she needs a scapegoat for her drinking. Susie claims Pot made her drink because she wasn't thinking properly. Now Susie is an addict too because she can't do drugs without drinking. The Reality: If Susie was working her program, the pot wouldn't have made any difference because Susie would still have said no to drinking because she knows she has a problem.

Let's get even more in depth here. I am allergic to asprin. I know it makes me sick and uncomfortable so I don't take it ever. I am drinking one night, or smoking pot and I get a headache and someone offers me an asprin. Do I take the asprin because I am not "thinking right". No. I say I'm sorry Asprin makes me very sick, I can't have it. If you can say no to something that will harm or kill you while intoxicated, you can say no to anything else that is bad for you too.

I have drank a few times, and I've smoked pot over the years, NEVER EVER have I had a lapse in judgement and accepted Meth, even when offered to me. It's like the asprin. I know it's bad for me and leads to bad things, so I say no I can't do that stuff.

Why go into this big long spiel? Simple. Winx, it's people like you who enable the people like suzie to say the pot made me take something I shouldn't have. Stereotypes are horrible and can cause people who don't know any better to be misinformed. It also causes manipulative and connviving people to have yet one more excuse to add to their entourage of reasons they do not have to take responsibility for the things they do.

There is no such thing as a gateway drug. People just need something to blame for their irresponsible actions in life.


SilkieButterfly,

You don't know what I've done in my past so you don't know if I lack experience in this area. I also have a person close to me that is an addict and is in early recovery AGAIN. I've learned from that too. I belong to Nar-Anon. I am not a snob that stereotypes. I know people that have smoked pot and have not gone onto harder things. I also know people that have smoked pot and did go onto harder things.

Btw, dual diagnosis doesn't mean that one is an alcoholic and an addict. It's means that one is an addict and/or alcoholic that has other problems too - depression, schizophrenia, etc.

NA's thoughts - to stay off your drug of choice, don't drink or do any drugs. They consider alcohol to be a drug.

Btw, the topic is of this thread is about what one would do if they found out that their child was smoking pot. That's what I've been talking about.

I'm not budging on my thoughts about my child. I hope that they don't smoke pot because it is not good for a child's developing brain, it's illegal, and they need to develop their own coping skills.






yellowrose10's photo
Sat 03/28/09 05:45 PM
some people may not have had negative experiences with pot....some have. some have hallucinated, become paranoid and other things. even if these are a small percentage...it still happens and for kids...i don't want to take the chance.

Italy0219's photo
Sat 03/28/09 06:33 PM
Tell him not to move on to anything stronger..stick with the natural stuff..

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Sat 03/28/09 06:34 PM




smokin You just found out that your child is smoking pot.smokin




what What do you do?what


Not much we can do is there? what flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Sat 03/28/09 07:35 PM





smokin You just found out that your child is smoking pot.smokin




what What do you do?what


Not much we can do is there? what flowerforyou

Ground and take away privileges is a good place to start.

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