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Topic: Your child is smoking pot
Filmfreek's photo
Sun 03/22/09 11:39 AM

i know this is a threads about kids smoking pot....but here's a question for the adults...

for those that smoke pot....do you smoke it before or after work?


I'm not currently smoking (looking for a job, so I have to stay clean since 99.9% of jobs do a drug screen). But...when I DID smoke, it was strictly AFTER work. Usually only one joint or a few bong hits once I got all settled in for the night and wasn't planning on going anywhere. Just pop in a movie and zone out in the privacy of my own home...not hurting anyone. Should that be any more different than getting off of work and getting sh!tfaced off of alcohol? Should it be illegal to burn a joint while sitting at home, with no kids around, and not driving anywhere. I don't see any reason why it should.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/22/09 01:06 PM


i know this is a threads about kids smoking pot....but here's a question for the adults...

for those that smoke pot....do you smoke it before or after work?


I'm not currently smoking (looking for a job, so I have to stay clean since 99.9% of jobs do a drug screen). But...when I DID smoke, it was strictly AFTER work. Usually only one joint or a few bong hits once I got all settled in for the night and wasn't planning on going anywhere. Just pop in a movie and zone out in the privacy of my own home...not hurting anyone. Should that be any more different than getting off of work and getting sh!tfaced off of alcohol? Should it be illegal to burn a joint while sitting at home, with no kids around, and not driving anywhere. I don't see any reason why it should.



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yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/22/09 01:07 PM
so why wouldn't an adult smoke it before work?

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 03/22/09 01:13 PM

so why wouldn't an adult smoke it before work?


It is a learning based substance, which means when you are under the influence of marijuana activities you do are either very easy or extremely difficult. If you worked constantly under the influence you would learn how to work while using, doesn't always quite work out that way but that is how it goes most of the time. If you started working for a few months then decided to work while using...well, you would be awful at the job.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/22/09 01:18 PM


so why wouldn't an adult smoke it before work?


It is a learning based substance, which means when you are under the influence of marijuana activities you do are either very easy or extremely difficult. If you worked constantly under the influence you would learn how to work while using, doesn't always quite work out that way but that is how it goes most of the time. If you started working for a few months then decided to work while using...well, you would be awful at the job.


laugh i agree. my job is hard enough without it lol

my point is that it is to relax and unwind right???? like someone having a beer after work.....but not done before.

it makes you want to sit there and chill. i never said it made you lethargic....but it does make you unmotivated because you are relaxed.

I can't do it anyway....but I don't want my kid to be so relaxed he doesn't want to do much either

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 03/23/09 10:43 PM



so why wouldn't an adult smoke it before work?


It is a learning based substance, which means when you are under the influence of marijuana activities you do are either very easy or extremely difficult. If you worked constantly under the influence you would learn how to work while using, doesn't always quite work out that way but that is how it goes most of the time. If you started working for a few months then decided to work while using...well, you would be awful at the job.


laugh i agree. my job is hard enough without it lol

my point is that it is to relax and unwind right???? like someone having a beer after work.....but not done before.

it makes you want to sit there and chill. i never said it made you lethargic....but it does make you unmotivated because you are relaxed.

I can't do it anyway....but I don't want my kid to be so relaxed he doesn't want to do much either


It depends, like I said it is a learning dependant drug. If someone were to be actively doing something all of the time under the influence whenever they used they would want to actively be doing something. Or if all they do is lie around when they use, well...that's all they will do.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/24/09 05:20 AM
anyone that thinks it doesn't effect their work is crazy. i used to work for a construction company and have seen workers come in drunk or high. they are the last people that need to run heavy machines. kids are NO different....if not..it's harder for kids.

Rapunzel's photo
Tue 03/24/09 08:42 AM

Winx's photo
Wed 03/25/09 08:18 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 03/25/09 08:20 PM
Marijuana, like most other drugs, affects the parts of the brain that allow us to make plans, solve problems, and make decisions. So although these kids might seem ok, they are altering their brain chemistry in ways that can have both short term and long term effects In the short term--they run the risk of doing something dangerous when they are high--like driving and getting into an accident, or not studying and having their grades drop, or seeing their athletic performance decline, and getting kicked off a team. But in the longer term they also risk becoming addicted. Repeated drug use changes the brain (and the body) and could one day lead to addiction and other serious medical consequences. Interestingly, one of our researchers surveyed people that had used marijuana regularly for many years. The marijuana users reported diminished life satisfaction and more physical and mental health problems, which they attributed to the marijuana. They also had poorer academic and job outcomes and lower salaries than a group of adults from comparable backgrounds who did not smoke marijuana.

So don't believe just what you see on the outside--some of these changes take time to happen, and some people are more vulnerable to problems associated with drug abuse than others. We don't know all the reasons why, but genetics and a host of other factors--age of first use, other mental health problems, stress, family difficulties, peers that use drugs--all contribute to someone's likelihood of becoming addicted or developing other health problems because of repeated drug use.


http://www.drugabuse.gov/chat/chatfaqs308.html

scorpio90's photo
Wed 03/25/09 08:59 PM
smokin

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:29 AM

Marijuana, like most other drugs, affects the parts of the brain that allow us to make plans, solve problems, and make decisions. So although these kids might seem ok, they are altering their brain chemistry in ways that can have both short term and long term effects In the short term--they run the risk of doing something dangerous when they are high--like driving and getting into an accident, or not studying and having their grades drop, or seeing their athletic performance decline, and getting kicked off a team. But in the longer term they also risk becoming addicted. Repeated drug use changes the brain (and the body) and could one day lead to addiction and other serious medical consequences. Interestingly, one of our researchers surveyed people that had used marijuana regularly for many years. The marijuana users reported diminished life satisfaction and more physical and mental health problems, which they attributed to the marijuana. They also had poorer academic and job outcomes and lower salaries than a group of adults from comparable backgrounds who did not smoke marijuana.

So don't believe just what you see on the outside--some of these changes take time to happen, and some people are more vulnerable to problems associated with drug abuse than others. We don't know all the reasons why, but genetics and a host of other factors--age of first use, other mental health problems, stress, family difficulties, peers that use drugs--all contribute to someone's likelihood of becoming addicted or developing other health problems because of repeated drug use.


http://www.drugabuse.gov/chat/chatfaqs308.html



Unfortunately a real study of that kind is always leaned on by some governing agency, this is why it is always more credible to take in independent results from a third party: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/18/health/he-marijuanacon18

Now, one can always argue a statistical base. Reason being that the statistical base is weighed heavily on by an outside source (government, private corporation, money). So statistics tend to be skewered especially when it comes to illicit substances such as marijuana (THC), the above study does not refute the risks of THC on the body however it also states that some of those risks are small in a given population.

What you get from the US government will always tell you that it is bad for you, if you dump trillions of dollars into something (drug-war) you want to see it succeed. Therefore you are liable to mold some findings to better suit your initial reasoning, such as they did.

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509
http://www.drugscience.org/sfu/sfu_longterm.html
http://www.ukcia.org/research/zimmer.htm

Do note [.org] (Organization). Also note the names used in the references and the number of people studied (something your link seems to be missing, or I overlooked it), as well note the heading of Professor another thing missing from your link.

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:46 AM
Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:51 AM

Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.


Everybody can be bought, sold, and traded. Not that I codone children smoking pot in anyway, just saying that facts have been paid for with money more than once in history.

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:53 AM


Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.


Everybody can be bought, sold, and traded. Not that I codone children smoking pot in anyway, just saying that facts have been paid for with money more than once in history.


I can spot facts that are biased - on both sides. I worked in drug rehab at the VA Hospital. I've been to NA meetings with a friend.

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:14 AM


Fear,

What I posted pertained to children.

I have full confidence in the NIDA, btw. flowerforyou They are a great organization.


Everybody can be bought, sold, and traded. Not that I codone children smoking pot in anyway, just saying that facts have been paid for with money more than once in history.



drinker smokin drinker Right on Fear & Loathing...Stand your ground !!! drinker smokin drinker

noway I don't have <<< full >>> confidence in very many organizations noway


ill Many people do & say all kinds of things frown if it is in their best interest ill











yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 09:30 AM
I see it in my own neighborhood. 20 yr olds still trying to get through highschool because all they want to do is smoke pot all day. but people seem to forget....as of right now it is ILLEGAL. until that changes, then i won't encourage my son to do something illegal

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:19 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 03/26/09 10:22 AM
drinker Commendations for all Mothers :heart: :heart: :heart: who love their kids drinker

flowerforyou and who do the right thing by them...including <<< ME >>> flowerforyou


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blushing and she is everything i could have ever hoped for blushing

smitten as are my Other Two Children & three Grandchildren smitten


smokin and My Kids have smoked pot since they were teens smokin


drinker They all have very highly skilled smokin high paying Careers drinker


smokin and are doing very well in their personal & professional Lives smokin

whoa so people can say all they want ohwell until they are blue in the face whoa

huh huh huh about this and that regarding pot huh huh huh


frown but many of you fail to acknowledge that it was made illegal frown

ill unscrupulusly many years ago because of greed and capitalism ill

slaphead and some people i have notice here whoa are completely ignoring that well known fact slaphead


huh : and continue to sadly :cry: & unfairly sad call it evil weed huh noway


noway when it is not nearly as bad as you think it is ...noway


huh maybe if some people are already brain dead huh

frown it will effect them adversely frown

noway but in many ocassions i have not seen any negative effects noway

drinker and my Family and many of my Friends drinker


drinker smokin drinker are perfect examples of True Success drinker smokin drinker



drinker and they partake in weed responsibly smokin & i would rather use weed anyday drinker


huh over the other things that people use to catch a buzz or to help pain or mellow them out huh










yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:22 AM
as I have stated before...it is illegal whether people think it's right or wrong to be illegal. i want my son to rely on himself to relax or handle situations. not rely on crutches like pot, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. he is doing a great job with that. he doesn't fall into peer pressure. he knows that cigarettes and alcohol have laws and they need to be obeyed or face the music. just as any drugs do as well.

Winx's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:22 AM
You're bragging that your kids have smoked pot since they were teens?surprised

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:25 AM

as I have stated before...it is illegal whether people think it's right or wrong to be illegal. i want my son to rely on himself to relax or handle situations. not rely on crutches like pot, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. he is doing a great job with that. he doesn't fall into peer pressure. he knows that cigarettes and alcohol have laws and they need to be obeyed or face the music. just as any drugs do as well.


yes, much of this thread is full with you stating these things ....


but are you capable of acknowledging any one elses' successes and life experiences...???




and if it wasn't made illegal unsrupulously because of greed


we wouldn't be having this conversation...







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