On that other thread, we have debunked this theory and picked it to death. God is not the first cause because something had to generate the first cause. One first cause can not be exempt from this process. The bones have been picked clean.

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God isn't vain, jealous, resentful or difficult (what?).

Krimsa,

If I said "If humans are evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?", you wouldn't be able to contain yourself in correcting me. But you don't give it a second thought when Christians tell you over and over that you have misunderstood a scripture. You have argued that the original words shouldn't matter and we should only go by the English translation. Your attitude is of one who is afraid of the truth, one who is willfully ignorant to what the Bible really says. You have no reason to be afraid. Jesus said "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.".

But say you hear the truth of what the Bible says and you still reject it? Then I wish you well. But I think it's very telling that you so willfully avoid hearing the truth of what the Bible says. That you will so willingly ignore exegesis done by Christians but swallow whole any lie told by a known liar who has a burning hatred of Christianity. That shows an incredibly closed mind. Now I'm sure you will react in anger to this and that's fine. You will insult me and threaten to report me to the moderators. That is fine. You will probably bring up things that have happen or that you pretend have happened in the past and try to use those to discredit me and that also is fine. But I hope that you will think about why you are so completely closed minded when it comes to Christianity and the proper exegesis of Christian scriptures which has been accepted for hundreds or thousands of years by Christians, Jews and theologians.

Then the universe doesn't exist. There is no credible scientist who doesn't believe in an infinitely old first cause. NONE. Many don't believe it was God, but some natural force, but you cannot deny the existence of a first cause.

So tell me, if there was no first cause, where did the universe come from? How does it exist, if there was nothing to cause the universe?

"Spidercmb" ok...I'll agree with you God is not everything

Okay, I'm glad we can agree on that. Now when you can agree with me that God exists and is perfect, then we will be getting somewhere.

"Spidercmb"....I never once denied that God didn't exist but he's clearly not perfect ..he makes mistakes all the time ..even God admitted he was sorry for creating Man ..since Gods don't make mistakes then God is not a God

Spider stop bringing up the past. I told you I am over that crap and I am willing to let it go if you are. If you keep bringing it up, you risk angering me all over again so cool it. I am telling you this one time.

Everything I discuss on these forums is taken directly from scripture. No Im not listening to a bunch of extended exegesis that is generally not even topic related and is copied an pasted on forum.

If you wish to explain some of this, do it in your own words and speak directly to the scripture.


Joshua 6

6:18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.

6:19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.


Keep yourselves from "the accursed thing". Whatever that is. And be sure to save all the silver and gold for God!

"Spidercmb" you going make "Krimsa" turn green grow muscles and turn into the Hulk ......

don't make her angry ...you won't like it if she gets angry

Well honestly I couldn't even turn into Bill Bixby.

6:19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.


wow the lord has a treasury? ...you think he will help bail out The Big Three Automakers or kick us down with a couple of Trillions to balance the budget

I mean what does God "need" money for anyway ...do he like use it to bribe people to come to Heaven or give money to the Vatican to help settle those sex-abuse cases

"Spidercmb" ..the religious and the big bang theorist never ponder "first cause" of where the Universe came from beyond that of God or The One Singularity


there are many theories where the Universe could have came from ..the elements that formed the Universe may have came through a black hole or worm hole from another Universe

as you walk travel through-out life everything you do eat or walk you destroy millions of microscopic Universes where you yourself exist as God ...the same could be said about This Universe ...it may exist as a speck of unnotice dust among millions of other unnotice Universes

funches, hmm, I had this long winded thing all about creation vs. other ideas all ready for ya to examine. now it's gone. Guess I need a faster computer. I mean this one is just so old and boring that I am just getting bored with the same old thing over and over again. So since I need a new one to have more fun interacting with the people here in my little world of internet bliss on mingle2, I guess I will get one, or just build another one. I'll let ya know when I get a new one, maybe I will be able to keep my thoughts about me long enough to speak them into being on the www! later man, have a good day

well, get back on topic then!

Its funches deal. Im not all that involved with it anymore. Its lost interest for me in the time being at least.

You gorgeous silly man!

Kiss me you fool!

"MartyMark"..you mean the one about how everything had to have had a creator and just couldn't have popped out of nothingness

but yet you would find yourself at odds how to explained rationally how that same theory doesn't apply to God

It would appear that he deactivated. His brain must have imploded from all of your questions, funch.