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Topic: why would a God have the "need" to create
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 12/06/08 07:51 AM
God created us for our benefit, so that we could exist and know the greatest good which can exist. So when God talks to humans, it is to further his goal of giving us the benefit of his company. "Spidercmb"...a God with a "need" to create company for itself means the God is lonely ...lonelyness is a decension below oneself ..and an indiction the God has needs that cannot be fullfilled within itself.. Funches, play your games with someone else and please don't put words in my mouth. God didn't NEED anything. As I've already said. God created humans so that we could know him. For our benefit, not his. God needs nothing. "Spidercmb" are you even reading what you are posting about God ...you are saying that God created people so they can have the pleasure of knowing him ...you are making God seem vain if people were already a part of God before God created them then according to your theory God create little powerless images of himself in order to praise himself ...you're describing God as some type of narcissistic sociopath

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 07:53 AM
Why did god shorten our life span then from upwards of 900 years to 120 unless he was fed up with all the arguing and strife?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 12/06/08 08:17 AM
Why did god shorten our life span then from upwards of 900 years to 120 unless he was fed up with all the arguing and strife? "Krimsa" when the fallen angels were kicked out it started a recession in Heaven and God had to make the decision to either shorten the human lifespan or to liquidate the gold pave roads of Heaven in order to finance the projects needed to cause plagues pestilences and natural disasters so after seeing the enormous price of the water bill to cause The Great Flood God decided that to shorthen human's lifespans would be cheaper in the long run

martymark Joined Tue 11/18/08 Posts: 1105	Sat 12/06/08 08:19 AM
Why did god shorten our life span then from upwards of 900 years to 120 unless he was fed up with all the arguing and strife? "Krimsa" when the fallen angels were kicked out it started a recession in Heaven and God had to make the decision to either shorten the human lifespan or to liquidate the gold pave roads of Heaven in order to finance the projects needed to cause plagues pestilences and natural disasters so after seeing the enormous price of the water bill to cause The Great Flood God decided that to shorthen human's lifespans would be cheaper in the long run

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 08:26 AM
That was pretty humourous Funch.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 08:58 AM
God created us for our benefit, so that we could exist and know the greatest good which can exist. So when God talks to humans, it is to further his goal of giving us the benefit of his company. "Spidercmb"...a God with a "need" to create company for itself means the God is lonely ...lonelyness is a decension below oneself ..and an indiction the God has needs that cannot be fullfilled within itself.. Funches, play your games with someone else and please don't put words in my mouth. God didn't NEED anything. As I've already said. God created humans so that we could know him. For our benefit, not his. God needs nothing. "Spidercmb" are you even reading what you are posting about God ...you are saying that God created people so they can have the pleasure of knowing him ...you are making God seem vain if people were already a part of God before God created them then according to your theory God create little powerless images of himself in order to praise himself ...you're describing God as some type of narcissistic sociopath God is perfect, it would be impossible for God to be vain. God is as great as he thinks he is. People weren't a part of God, once again you are flying off the rails.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 09:00 AM
Why did god shorten our life span then from upwards of 900 years to 120 unless he was fed up with all the arguing and strife? That's what the Bible says... You must not be replying to me, because nothing I said comes even close to that topic. But yes, the Bible says that God was tired of our wickedness, so God shortened our lifespan. It's probable that life was very different before that. Hundreds of years of perfect health without illness. It was so good that people stopped turning to God. God has to allow us to suffer or we won't come to him. Look around the world, wherever there are revivals, it is because people are suffering.

martymark Joined Tue 11/18/08 Posts: 1105	Sat 12/06/08 09:02 AM
I think he created us so we could think, I think!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 09:59 AM
No spider I was not addressing you at all. I just threw that out there. This thread has been that way. Look at the initial poster.

martymark Joined Tue 11/18/08 Posts: 1105	Sat 12/06/08 10:39 AM
No spider I was not addressing you at all. I just threw that out there. This thread has been that way. Look at the initial poster. He looks like he's a big dude, wonder if that is really him or if he just created his pic to look that way cause he wanted to!

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 10:43 AM
Funch you mean? No, thats really him. Ive met him. Hes a big hunk o manlovin thats for sure.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 12/06/08 10:55 AM
God created us for our benefit, so that we could exist and know the greatest good which can exist. So when God talks to humans, it is to further his goal of giving us the benefit of his company. "Spidercmb"...a God with a "need" to create company for itself means the God is lonely ...lonelyness is a decension below oneself ..and an indiction the God has needs that cannot be fullfilled within itself.. Funches, play your games with someone else and please don't put words in my mouth. God didn't NEED anything. As I've already said. God created humans so that we could know him. For our benefit, not his. God needs nothing. "Spidercmb" are you even reading what you are posting about God ...you are saying that God created people so they can have the pleasure of knowing him ...you are making God seem vain if people were already a part of God before God created them then according to your theory God create little powerless images of himself in order to praise himself ...you're describing God as some type of narcissistic sociopath God is perfect, it would be impossible for God to be vain. God is as great as he thinks he is. People weren't a part of God, once again you are flying off the rails. "Spidercmb" ..if people wasn't part of God then where did they come from? ...did little elves bring them according to Christians God is everything and everything is God and from God and that includes Humans ...you keep getting Jesus mixed up with Yahweh Yahweh is the one that created people not Jesus

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 12/06/08 11:04 AM
No spider I was not addressing you at all. I just threw that out there. This thread has been that way. Look at the initial poster. He looks like he's a big dude, wonder if that is really him or if he just created his pic to look that way cause he wanted to! hey "Spider-crumb" didn't they teach you not to start rumors or hold false witness against thy neighbors ..you must have miss that class at sunday school so is that why you finally place your picture here so that you can complain about my picture...but anyway let me stop your gossip before it get started.. if you doubt that it's me just go to my myspace page http://www.myspace.com/funches

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 12/06/08 11:17 AM
God is perfect, "Spidercmb"...a perfect God would be incapable of creating imperfection, sinners or those destined to be sinners it would be impossible for God to be vain. the fact that God need worshippers contradicts that statement God is as great as he thinks he is. sounds vain to me

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 11:24 AM
"Spidercmb" ..if people wasn't part of God then where did they come from? ...did little elves bring them God created them. according to Christians God is everything and everything is God and from God and that includes Humans ...you keep getting Jesus mixed up with Yahweh No, Christians don't believe that. You are confusing Pantheism with Christianity. They are two totally different religions. Yahweh is the one that created people not Jesus Jesus is Yahweh.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 11:25 AM Edited by Spidercmb on Sat 12/06/08 11:28 AM
hey "Spider-crumb" didn't they teach you not to start rumors or hold false witness against thy neighbors ..you must have miss that class at sunday school so is that why you finally place your picture here so that you can complain about my picture...but anyway let me stop your gossip before it get started.. if you doubt that it's me just go to my myspace page http://www.myspace.com/funches Funches, That post was made by "martymark", not me. Maybe you should try to pay a little bit closer attention, then I wouldn't have to correct you so often.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 11:27 AM Edited by Spidercmb on Sat 12/06/08 11:31 AM
"Spidercmb"...a perfect God would be incapable of creating imperfection, sinners or those destined to be sinners A perfect God can do anything that is possible and he wants to do. the fact that God need worshippers contradicts that statement God doesn't need worship, God deserves worship. sounds vain to me It is impossible for a perfect being to be vain. Beside the fact that a perfect being couldn't think too highly of itself, you also run into the fact that a perfect being's personality would be perfect and therefore not vain. So your assertion is logically refuted through two different lines of logic.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 11:28 AM
God created them Thats a load. Human females give birth. Your mother "created" you spider. Give credit where it is rightfully due.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Sat 12/06/08 11:30 AM
God created them Thats a load. Human females give birth. Your mother "created" you spider. Give credit where it is rightfully due. God is the first cause. If God hadn't created the universe and humans, then my mother wouldn't have existed to give birth to me. And my mother didn't create me, I was created though a complicated biological process designed by God.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 12/06/08 11:31 AM
It is impossible for a perfect being to be vain Well explain why your god is vain, jealous, difficult, angry and resentful. All of these emotions are incompatible with a supposedly omniscient being. Yet entirely compatible with a bunch of agenda driven males.