"Feralcatlady" ...I'm pretty sure those swept away in The Great Flood was thinking the same thing

Funches....good grief...your such a an idiot. Perhaps if you had read the entire post you would have realized that I am in no way contradicting myself. Anyone who has read these posts can tell you that and if anyone is cutting and pasting here it is you becuase you left out this very important part in your counter-arguement or just perhaps maybe you didn't read it. But i willing to bet its another case of you being selective about twisting and mistating what be people say as a means to convince yourself that you might not be wrong, made a bad conculsion or <gasping> god forbid... been flawed in your thinking. Never the less here is the part you selected to ignore and i think it speaks for itself:

Taoism does not fall strictly under an umbrella or a definition of an organized religion like the Abrahamic traditions, nor can it purely be studied as the originator or a variant of Chinese folk religion, as much of the traditional religion is outside of the tenets and core teachings of Taoism.[11] Robinet asserts that Taoism is better understood as a way of life than as a religion, and that its adherents do not approach or view Taoism the way non-Taoist historians have done.[12] Henri Maspero stated that many scholarly works conclude Taoism is a school of thought with a quest for immortality.[13]
I adhere to philosophical Taoism funches, and just so there is no more debate here is the definition of philosophy according to wikipedia:Philosophy is the investigation of truth, existence, knowledge, and conduct through logic and reason. It is an attempt to study the nature of existence, validity, justice, beauty, mind, and language. As Anthony Quinton put it, philosophy is "thinking about thinking."[1][2]

Philosophy is distinguished from other ways of addressing these questions (such as mysticism or mythology) by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on reasoned argument.[2] The word philosophy is of Ancient Greek origin: φιλοσοφία (philosophía), meaning "love of wisdom."[3][4][5]
So enough with your bullcrap and twisted interpetations of what people say. Start making statements with evidence to back it up or shut up.noway frustrated angry

There i rest my case.

Hey hey you two. You might want to rethink comments like "idiot" because the mods will remove the thread at the least and they might start suspending people. You cant make the argument personal. Stick to the issues.

Sorry Krisma, It becomes personal to me when someone openly attacks me, insults me, constantly chooses to mis-quote me and belittle me. None the less you are right, we should not have let it get to this point and i apologize if i offended anyone.

Well Im suggesting that you edit out "idiot." That is grounds for suspension. Funches probably wont complain but if a mod just sees it at random. Thats what Im saying.

"Maikuru" maybe you shouldn't keep posting how Taoism is so rooted into various religious concepts as you make claims that it's not a religion ...

it's all just part of Philosopical Pantheism ...

for example can you explain what created what Taoist and the big bang theorist called "The One"

"Krimsa" enlightenment sometimes bring hostility ....Confunches....3:16

Funches, I have made my point and Krisma is right, this has gone to far. I apologize for any personal insults i directed at you. I am done debating semantics and leaving it at that. May you find peace.

"Maikuru" ...no problem...everytime I ask a Taoist how "The One" was created they always find an excuses to not answer it ...and Krimsa post gave you one

because according to Taoism "The One" is everything and everything is from "The One" ..it represent their version of God

Christians will say ..God is everything and everything is God

Pantheist will say God is "I AM" and "I Am" God

Big Bang Theorists will say "The One Singularity" created the universe but refuse to ponder where the one singularity came from

that's why I kept asking you where did "The One" come from ...you kept explaining where everything else came from like the yin and the yang but refuse to explain "The One" because it subconsciously represent your version of God

In Hebrew, the words "I am" doesn't just indicate existence, that is the very least that is conveyed. "I AM" would rightly be translated "The Self-Sufficient One", which means that God needs nothing, not love or companionship, air, food, water, time or space. So the Christian / Jewish God needs nothing and therefore this question doesn't apply.

"Spidercmb"...it wouldn't make a difference what "I Am" translates into no matter the language and even if "I Am" is a mis-interpetation ...but we both can agree on... is that there is no mistaking that God supposely said it

so can you explain why God had the "need" to utter anything unless he was trying to prove his existence either to himself or to another ...and as you know a God with a "need" to prove it's existence is not a God

To the question: Why would a God have the need to create?

I guess he was bored and just wanted some entertainment.

Would that go for a viable answer?

"smiles"..I guess it's a viable answer ...but you sure do make God sound like a couch potato

Maybe he is laughing his ass off enjoying what we humans struggle with. Who knows?

Yeah...

We're God's Reality TV!

God created us for our benefit, so that we could exist and know the greatest good which can exist.

So when God talks to humans, it is to further his goal of giving us the benefit of his company.

God must be watching "Scare Tactics" on the sci-fi channel

that is soo funny I am rolling here

"Spidercmb"...a God with a "need" to create company for itself means the God is lonely ...lonelyness is a decension below oneself ..and an indiction the God has needs that cannot be fullfilled within itself..

Funches, play your games with someone else and please don't put words in my mouth. God didn't NEED anything. As I've already said. God created humans so that we could know him. For our benefit, not his. God needs nothing.