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Well...first we would have to establish that God does indeed "need". And until you do that....we cannot proceed with discovering why that need exists. So I tell you what....show me the evidence that God needs something...anything...and THEN we can discuss why. "ljcc" the evidence is you ...didn't God create you ..that's either a yes or no ..or if you are agnostic a maybe... when God create you he performed an action...to perform an action requires a "need" ...so now that we got that out of the way ...can you explain why would God need to |
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Well...first we would have to establish that God does indeed "need". And until you do that....we cannot proceed with discovering why that need exists. So I tell you what....show me the evidence that God needs something...anything...and THEN we can discuss why. "ljcc" the evidence is you ...didn't God create you ..that's either a yes or no ..or if you are agnostic a maybe... when God create you he performed an action...to perform an action requires a "need" ...so now that we got that out of the way ...can you explain why would God need to Your logic is flawed. Action does not necessarily follow need. Try again. |
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Wed 11/12/08 06:18 PM
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Maybe because God is so good that they wanted all creation to share in their glory.
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God created us with Free Will... when we discovered sin we found the difficulties of sinfulness... covetousness and emptiness...want and need. We are always looking for something else, something new, something better because we can't really find anything imperfect that fills the God-shaped void in us. "Botcher" this is about why God has needs not why humans have them ... |
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see ljcc1964's question to you - answer it first - where does it say in the book he had or has a need? "Tribo" you can't run to the bible or "google cut and paste" an answer for this one ...you may actually have to think for yourself ..try it ..it's not all that hard |
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Your logic is flawed. Action does not necessarily follow need. Try again. "ljcc" let's see how flawed my logic is... can you explain why action doesn't follow need |
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see ljcc1964's question to you - answer it first - where does it say in the book he had or has a need? "Tribo" you can't run to the bible or "google cut and paste" an answer for this one ...you may actually have to think for yourself ..try it ..it's not all that hard how can i answer when you cant show he has a need? |
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Maybe because God is so good that they wanted all creation to share in their glory.
Quikstepper ...remember nothing was created before God had the need to create it which means there was nothing that existed to share it with but God himself |
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Edited by
ljcc1964
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Wed 11/12/08 06:40 PM
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Your logic is flawed. Action does not necessarily follow need. Try again. "ljcc" let's see how flawed my logic is... can you explain why action doesn't follow need It IS possible that any/all actions of men are born of some need....and I emphasize the word "possible". But let's assume for the sake of argument that this IS true. You are still attempting to attribute a HUMAN charactaristic to a NON-HUMAN entity. You are claiming, without any substantiating evidence, that God has needs. Even philosophically speaking, God, by definition, is self-sufficient. To be God, He needs nothing. If He needed anything, He could not be God. So again I ask you....what is your evidence of God having needs? I don't believe you actually want to know the answer to the question you asked. I believe you only want to debate for the sake of debating. 
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how can i answer when you cant show he has a need? "Tribo" with any action comes a need to perform that action ... that statement exlains that God have a "need" ..unless you can explain why that statement is not accurate |
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how can i answer when you cant show he has a need? "Tribo" with any action comes a need to perform that action ... that statement exlains that God have a "need" ..unless you can explain why that statement is not accurate i have no need to see - yet i see. [i like seeing but it is not a need] |
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Edited by
funches
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Wed 11/12/08 06:54 PM
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It IS possible that any/all actions of men are born of some need....and I emphasize the word "possible". But let's assume for the sake of argument that this IS true. You are still attempting to attribute a HUMAN charactaristic to a NON-HUMAN entity. "ljcc" ..when God created he resorted to using the human concept of "Time" to create his creation which means non-entity feats can be attribute to the realm of human reality ..also let's not forget Jesus in which God made himself human ..so that why the concept of need can be applied to God |
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Edited by
funches
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Wed 11/12/08 06:56 PM
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i have no need to see - yet i see. [i like seeing but it is not a need] "Tribo"...you do have a need to see ..or why would God have a need to heal the blind |
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It IS possible that any/all actions of men are born of some need....and I emphasize the word "possible". But let's assume for the sake of argument that this IS true. You are still attempting to attribute a HUMAN charactaristic to a NON-HUMAN entity. "ljcc" ..when God created he resorted to using the human concept of "Time" to create his creation which means non-entity feats can be attribute to the realm of human reality ..also let's not forget Jesus in which God made himself human ..so that why the concept of need can be applied to God Sorry. But you are still making assumptions which you have no evidence of. Now I think you're just making things up.... 
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Hey I gotta go read the Lorax to my son....be back in a bit!!
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Wed 11/12/08 07:10 PM
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why would a omnipotent omniscience omniscient omni-whatever entity lack in it's existence that it would have a need to create ...the addiction of "want" and "need" are for those that lack control over themselves or their environment ..so why would a God have the need to create ... .... this is one of those questions that when asked no believer seem to be able to answer it God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. 
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Edited by
funches
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Wed 11/12/08 07:08 PM
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Sorry. But you are still making assumptions which you have no evidence of. Now I think you're just making things up....
no evidence? .."ljcc" ..is the bible full of assumption because according to the bible it took God "six days" to create the universe and "forty days" to drown all life on Earth except what was on Noah's ark ...and Jesus as God had human characteristics ..which mean this non-human entity called God clearly became human and therefore human factors can be applied to him .. don't they teach this stuff in sunday school anymore |
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i have no need to see - yet i see. [i like seeing but it is not a need] "Tribo"...you do have a need to see ..or why would God have a need to heal the blind nice try funch - your gonna get squirmy on this one huh? if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. you my friend have a need - no 2 neeeds - first - to try and prove god has a need, secondly for something to debate cause your bored - You are the one with a NEED -
So let's rephrase the original op again - Why does funches have needs? |
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Maybe because God is so good that they wanted all creation to share in their glory.
Quikstepper ...remember nothing was created before God had the need to create it which means there was nothing that existed to share it with but God himself So what? God can do whatever He wants & if He chooses to create so be it. Right? God lives & has His being in all of creation. We are His prized possessions...His children. |
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