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Topic: Proof
Jess642 Joined Sat 03/31/07 Posts: 22732	Fri 10/31/08 02:50 PM
I just checked the dates... it's April/May 2009, not February.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 10/31/08 02:55 PM
One thing I agree with Krimsa about is that I would sure like to do some DNA testing on people accused of (or claiming to be) "starseeds" or reptilian "hybrids" or related to the reptilian bloodlines. I too want proof. DNA testing wouldnt tell us anything if they are reincarnated into human form.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 10/31/08 03:04 PM
One thing I agree with Krimsa about is that I would sure like to do some DNA testing on people accused of (or claiming to be) "starseeds" or reptilian "hybrids" or related to the reptilian bloodlines. I too want proof. DNA testing wouldnt tell us anything if they are reincarnated into human form. "Human form" does not always equal "human." There was a show on television at one time about this lady scientist who discovered DNA from a human looking person that was definitely not human. This was a short lived series that tried to suggest that humans had somehow evolved into a more advanced species and this species were planning to destroy and replace humans completely. Does anyone remember this show? It was very interesting indeed....

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 10/31/08 03:07 PM
One thing I agree with Krimsa about is that I would sure like to do some DNA testing on people accused of (or claiming to be) "starseeds" or reptilian "hybrids" or related to the reptilian bloodlines. I too want proof. Something that has been popping up in my peripherals at the moment is articles on the Crystal Skull found in a Mayan tomb in the 1920's.. I have read two very different articles... both written by leading specialists in their fields... ...one errrs to the side of cosmic intervention...the other to it being man-made. Both cite irrefutable facts.. and give examples...(proof?)..to support their decision. Who has the proof? Who can refute the proof of the other and make theirs more correct? Weird... so for me? I'm going to Sydney in February to check this sucker out in the non flesh for myself, cause it seems to be in my face a bit. Wow how exciting! I have heard some amazing things about the crystal skull. How can you check it out? I would like to hear all the details on this. JB The Crystal Skull will be at a Mind, Body and Soul Festival in Sydney in February, and as my eldest girl is living there now, it is a great opportunity to go visit this skull. There are a few options, one can sit in a conference room with it and a gazillion others and hear the lecture given about the skull, it's time of discovery, (excavation).. it's composition, and why it may or may not be man made, (depending on the lecturer).. Option two is a smaller intimate setting with a group, and a more in depth discussion... Third option is a private sitting with the skull, and ask it what you need to know... If this skull is all that it is cracked up to be, how would a common ordinary person know if it was the real thing or a fake and wouldn't the powers that be in the world have taken possession of the real thing and hidden it away like the Ark? Just thinking Indiana Jones type logic here... LOL.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 10/31/08 03:11 PM
One thing I agree with Krimsa about is that I would sure like to do some DNA testing on people accused of (or claiming to be) "starseeds" or reptilian "hybrids" or related to the reptilian bloodlines. I too want proof. DNA testing wouldnt tell us anything if they are reincarnated into human form. "Human form" does not always equal "human." There was a show on television at one time about this lady scientist who discovered DNA from a human looking person that was definitely not human. This was a short lived series that tried to suggest that humans had somehow evolved into a more advanced species and this species were planning to destroy and replace humans completely. Does anyone remember this show? It was very interesting indeed.... Been several shows like that.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 10/31/08 03:14 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 10/31/08 03:16 PM
One thing I agree with Krimsa about is that I would sure like to do some DNA testing on people accused of (or claiming to be) "starseeds" or reptilian "hybrids" or related to the reptilian bloodlines. I too want proof. DNA testing wouldnt tell us anything if they are reincarnated into human form. "Human form" does not always equal "human." There was a show on television at one time about this lady scientist who discovered DNA from a human looking person that was definitely not human. This was a short lived series that tried to suggest that humans had somehow evolved into a more advanced species and this species were planning to destroy and replace humans completely. Does anyone remember this show? It was very interesting indeed.... Im referring to fullscale reincarnation. Where bodys are human down to a genetic level, but the minds are not.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 10/31/08 03:16 PM
tribo new post for everyone!!! no exclusions - except for JB, Krim,Wooody,funches -balh blah blah = topic?::: RELIGIO-EVOLUTION-SCIECE-COSMOLOGY

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 10/31/08 03:33 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 10/31/08 03:36 PM
When I first started to consider the idea of reptilians and reptilian hybrids living as humans (as shape shifters who change like were-wolves and were-animals change)and as described by David Icke in his book "The biggest Secret" and a few others I rejected it as a ridiculous and extremely absurd idea. Perhaps it is. But he was not the only source for this type of information. I followed leads of all kinds and read a lot of eye witness accounts and even first hand eyewitness accounts from people who actually had seen a reptilian creature and wanted more information (from me) about it. I have nothing....and I have never seen one of them. After about two years I just got frustrated because I wanted proof. Real proof! A dead one, or some DNA and blood and skin samples etc. I gave up on that. I think if they exist proof can be had. But if you get that close to proof and they don't want you to have it, you could just disappear along with your proof. If you did not just disappear along with your proof, who will you present the proof to? Who will verify it and substantiate it if the truth is that those in control do not want it known? There are so many top secret and above black operations and classified things going on in this world and country you could not hope to uncover all the things that are being hidden in the name of "national security." And then you are faced with the ridicule of being called a "conspiracy theorist who believes in aliens." True or not, is any of it worth looking into? If what I have heard is even 10% true it would be a very dangerous if not impossible thing to investigate. I have seen the black helicopters when they were top secret and their existence was denied by the military. Now you see them on television. I have seen mutilated cows. Yes I would love to have proof, but I would not know what to do with it if I had it. I would not know who to trust. There is a lot of bull crap out there that is disinformation. But that disinformation is put there so that the truth will be dismissed when it is found. And yet I suspect that the truth is in plain sight.

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 10/31/08 03:42 PM
was that meant for me my lady? or for another?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 10/31/08 03:46 PM
was that meant for me my lady? or for another? For anyone and everyone interested. It is about a time when I was really tired of hearing about aliens and I wanted some proof. I understand why people want proof. They want truth. JB

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:09 PM
I did not say she has a different belief system... "AdventureBegins" are you sure you didn't say that ...well anyway here's your quote AdventureBegins saids Because she has a different belief structure. Tell you what funch- why don't you explain what your belief's are so we can have a go at your concept of what this life is all about? how's that for a good debate huh? tell us the funch truths to life? start an ew thread if you like, no matter, i'd like to hear funches take on things for once, the true truth of how it is. how bout it funchster? huh, huh,huh,??? sure "Tribo" no problem to believe is to doubt ...funches 3:16

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:13 PM
I dont see why anyone needs to be answering for anyone else? Just come up with a premise and prove it using basic objectivity that we can all agree on. What the hell man? At what point have we EVER all agreed on a single thing... Just wonderin... That doesnt matter. People can rattle off whatever they want. This is an open forum I am requesting that we decide on one premise to investigate, it could be "chupacabra" for all I care. Let's set aside some mutually agreed upon guidelines and dispute whether this creature exists and is part of the natural animal kingdom or shall be relegated to crap. Its up to you. "Krimsa" if the moderators have not ban you or deleted the posts or close the post then everyone is within the guildlines ....and you now seek more guildlines ....let people debate the way they want to...no one is complaining but you...geez you have some control issues going on there

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:20 PM
Actually they probably did not care who I was. All they really wanted was the proper acceptable evidence to cover their own butts. They wanted papers that proved that my birth was registered with THE STATE so that they could make copies for BIG BROTHER and their computer. Other than that, they were just cogs in the machine and didn't really care. "JennieBean" whatever the reasons they asked you for documents to prove who you were ..you felt the need to provide those documents without complaint ..because you knew that they needed prove beyond your word

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:23 PM
Tell you what funch- why don't you explain what your belief's are so we can have a go at your concept of what this life is all about? how's that for a good debate huh? tell us the funch truths to life? start an ew thread if you like, no matter, i'd like to hear funches take on things for once, the true truth of how it is. how bout it funchster? huh, huh,huh,??? so what will it be funch? what are your truths? That there are no truths? c'mon you can do it funchster, give us some insite on how the mind of funch see's and thinks about what he questions of everyone else, give us the "real truth" funch. There are those people, Tribo, who hide behind a curtain and whose only agenda is to take shots at other peoples beliefs and conclusions and yet they will not reveal their own. I don't trust those kind of people. "JennieBean" don't say that about "Tribo"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:28 PM
This thread was started by Jeanniebean and it is about the subject of Proof and why people ask for it. A thread highjacker (who has been told not to communicate with me)is breaking the rules. Any posts by anyone who has been told not to communicate with me are not welcome. yeah but are they acceptable? why would you ban anyone from a discussion? it's just a discussion? are you trying to be a meanie? are not all thuoghts good? or have you divided them into camps? good and evil? are you becoming religious? why all the fuss? it's just words my lady? wow you mean someone else is the bad guy this time instead of me ....it must be armengeddon or something

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 10/31/08 04:35 PM
I did not say she has a different belief system... "AdventureBegins" are you sure you didn't say that ...well anyway here's your quote AdventureBegins saids Because she has a different belief structure. Tell you what funch- why don't you explain what your belief's are so we can have a go at your concept of what this life is all about? how's that for a good debate huh? tell us the funch truths to life? start an ew thread if you like, no matter, i'd like to hear funches take on things for once, the true truth of how it is. how bout it funchster? huh, huh,huh,??? sure "Tribo" no problem to believe is to doubt ...funches 3:16 that's a statement - a good beginning - now expand on what "YOU" >mean< by this? use whatever definitionds you care to. how did you come to this conclusion? why do you think its true?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 04:55 PM Edited by funches on Fri 10/31/08 04:56 PM
I did not say she has a different belief system... "AdventureBegins" are you sure you didn't say that ...well anyway here's your quote AdventureBegins saids Because she has a different belief structure. Tell you what funch- why don't you explain what your belief's are so we can have a go at your concept of what this life is all about? how's that for a good debate huh? tell us the funch truths to life? start an ew thread if you like, no matter, i'd like to hear funches take on things for once, the true truth of how it is. how bout it funchster? huh, huh,huh,??? sure "Tribo" no problem to believe is to doubt ...funches 3:16 that's a statement - a good beginning - now expand on what "YOU" >mean< by this? use whatever definitionds you care to. how did you come to this conclusion? why do you think its true? "Tribo" I already have a entire thread on this subject in this forum someplace

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 10/31/08 05:01 PM Edited by tribo on Fri 10/31/08 05:04 PM
I did not say she has a different belief system... "AdventureBegins" are you sure you didn't say that ...well anyway here's your quote AdventureBegins saids Because she has a different belief structure. Tell you what funch- why don't you explain what your belief's are so we can have a go at your concept of what this life is all about? how's that for a good debate huh? tell us the funch truths to life? start an ew thread if you like, no matter, i'd like to hear funches take on things for once, the true truth of how it is. how bout it funchster? huh, huh,huh,??? sure "Tribo" no problem to believe is to doubt ...funches 3:16 that's a statement - a good beginning - now expand on what "YOU" >mean< by this? use whatever definitionds you care to. how did you come to this conclusion? why do you think its true? "Tribo" I already have a entire thread on this subject in this forum someplace well than at least explain your statement to me funch - to believe what, is to doubt what, exactly? do you believe this statement to be true?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 10/31/08 05:25 PM
well than at least explain your statement to me funch - to believe what, is to doubt what, exactly? do you believe this statement to be true? "Tribo" heres the orignal post from the thread "to believe is to doubt" ..it should explain the concept of the phrase a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt"

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Fri 10/31/08 05:30 PM
well than at least explain your statement to me funch - to believe what, is to doubt what, exactly? do you believe this statement to be true? "Tribo" heres the orignal post from the thread "to believe is to doubt" ..it should explain the concept of the phrase a belief is a belief because the believer of that belief has not enough proof to claim it as fact, so anyone that claim to "believe" in the existence of God is in fact stating they have "doubts" about God's existance ..hence "to believe is to doubt" but that's just making a statement about what others beleive or doubt - i asked you what it is that you believe - what is truth to you??