Topic: Proof
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Sat 11/01/08 03:40 PM

my point funch, there are many people who have no feelings as others so why base your existance on feelings, they prove nothing! that's like saying someone in an insane asylum or other not capable of feelings is not real, which disproves the point. feelings are the last thing i would base anthing on especially my existance.


"Tribo" having no feelings doesn't negate having awareness which also proves existence

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Sat 11/01/08 03:53 PM


my point funch, there are many people who have no feelings as others so why base your existance on feelings, they prove nothing! that's like saying someone in an insane asylum or other not capable of feelings is not real, which disproves the point. feelings are the last thing i would base anthing on especially my existance.


"Tribo" having no feelings doesn't negate having awareness which also proves existence

are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?

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Sat 11/01/08 03:55 PM

i said your feeleing so it would have to be according to you - are your feelings always correct?

the same with reliability?


I don't judge my feelings as being correct or incorrect.

I don't know what you mean by "reliability." They are just feelings.

(They don't tell me what to do, or tell me what is about to happen.)

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Sat 11/01/08 03:58 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 11/01/08 03:58 PM
flowerforyou Hey JB,did you get my email?:smile:(Nothing major,just a link to a site you may find interesting).:smile: Sometimes emails with links wont go thru.flowerforyou

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Sat 11/01/08 04:02 PM


i said your feeleing so it would have to be according to you - are your feelings always correct?

the same with reliability?


I don't judge my feelings as being correct or incorrect.

I don't know what you mean by "reliability." They are just feelings.

(They don't tell me what to do, or tell me what is about to happen.)


you used the word "reliablility or reliable, you'll have to define it to me? reliable to me means something i can always count on.

you may want to define feeling's also we may be talking in circles if not. to me feelings mean emotions and you?

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Sat 11/01/08 04:03 PM

are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?


"Tribo"....they are generally called corpses and even they exist ...ever been to a funeral? ...

but then again who can say that a corpse is not aware

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Sat 11/01/08 04:04 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/01/08 04:04 PM
Mirror Mirror,


Oh yeah they do that huh? Do they block them so it appears like www.xxxx.com or what not? I was on another forum that did that It looked that way in your sent messages file. On here it looks normal. Bastards..laugh

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Sat 11/01/08 04:07 PM

Mirror Mirror,


Oh yeah they do that huh? Do they block them so it appears like www.xxxx.com or what not? I was on another forum that did that It looked that way in your sent messages file. On here it looks normal. Bastards..laugh
flowerforyou The emails seems to go thru but it doesnt make it to the other person, they show up in your sent mail list as unread.:smile:It does it sometimes when you send links.:smile:You have to send it several times sometimes before the email will go thru.:smile:

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Sat 11/01/08 04:12 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/01/08 04:18 PM


are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?


"Tribo"....they are generally called corpses and even they exist ...ever been to a funeral? ...

but then again who can say that a corpse is not aware


I would guess that an actual cadaver has ceased to experience any sensory information or stimuli obtained through the 5 senses and the body is in a state of decay at that point.

However in Haiti specifically, where sometimes access to medical equipment is not always at the same standard that we have in the US, people have been wrongly pronounced as being deceased when they still had a heartbeat that was not registering or inaudible. In fact Kurari ingestion can cause this to occur and they use that sometimes in religious rights.

Buried alive! noway

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Sat 11/01/08 04:17 PM



are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?


"Tribo"....they are generally called corpses and even they exist ...ever been to a funeral? ...

but then again who can say that a corpse is not aware


I would guess that an actual cadaver has ceased to experiences any sensory information or stimuli obtained through the 5 senses and the body is in a state of decay at that point.

However in Haiti specifically, where sometimes access to medical equipment is not always at the same standard that we have in the US, people have been wrongly pronounced as being deceased when they still had a heartbeat that was not registering or inaudible. In fact Kurari ingestion can cause this to occur and they use that sometimes in religious rights.

Buried alive! noway


that's why some cultures hold "wakes" to make sure the person is dead and not dead drunk

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Sat 11/01/08 04:20 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/01/08 04:20 PM
Thats probably a good idea Funch and I wonder if some of that tradition is based in making sure a person is in fact dead. Thats where some of the legend of "zombies" comes from although that can actually be induced with drugs also. It can cause almost a paralysis state.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:22 PM


are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?


"Tribo"....they are generally called corpses and even they exist ...ever been to a funeral? ...

but then again who can say that a corpse is not aware


well i see were getting into thr realm of insanity so tel you what - believe whatever you wish, i'll do the same.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:30 PM



are their people who are not "aware"? if so do they exist?


"Tribo"....they are generally called corpses and even they exist ...ever been to a funeral? ...

but then again who can say that a corpse is not aware


well i see were getting into thr realm of insanity so tel you what - believe whatever you wish, i'll do the same.


"Tribo" you didn't answer the question ...have you ever been to a funeral ..if the answer is "yes" then you yourself acknowledged that dead person's existence

if the person never existed then why you go to their funeral

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Sat 11/01/08 04:47 PM

flowerforyou Hey JB,did you get my email?:smile:(Nothing major,just a link to a site you may find interesting).:smile: Sometimes emails with links wont go thru.flowerforyou


I did not get the message with the link.

try again.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:52 PM


flowerforyou Hey JB,did you get my email?:smile:(Nothing major,just a link to a site you may find interesting).:smile: Sometimes emails with links wont go thru.flowerforyou


I did not get the message with the link.

try again.
flowerforyou just sent it again.:smile:

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Sat 11/01/08 04:58 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 11/01/08 05:00 PM



i said your feeleing so it would have to be according to you - are your feelings always correct?

the same with reliability?


I don't judge my feelings as being correct or incorrect.

I don't know what you mean by "reliability." They are just feelings.

(They don't tell me what to do, or tell me what is about to happen.)


you used the word "reliablility or reliable, you'll have to define it to me? reliable to me means something i can always count on.

you may want to define feeling's also we may be talking in circles if not. to me feelings mean emotions and you?


If I understand you correctly, you are asking me if my "feelings" are always "correct and reliable."

I answered that I do not judge my feeling or feelings as correct or incorrect, or as reliable or unreliable. (they are just feelings.)

They are not thoughts or evaluations or decisions or orders or even emotions. They are feelings.

I said that I know that I exist because I feel.

"I feel therefore I am."

If you take away all five or six of my known physical senses, I will still "feel" and I will still know that I exist.

The question should be WHAT DO I FEEL?

There is no word in the English language that describes what I feel that assures me that I exist, but I will give you a few words that describes this feeling:

excited
anticipating
joyful
loving
loved
love
vibration

I feel "twitterpated." (a made up word from Bambie)
I feel "in love"
I feel "happy"

Put all of these words together and make a word.
That is how I feel inside

that is why I know I am.

I feel therefore I am.













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Sun 11/02/08 05:03 AM
i give up - you win - flowerforyou

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Sun 11/02/08 05:16 AM
What are you two arguing about? Whether or not cadavers can process stimuli from external sources? I will have to go back and read the entire thread I guess. laugh

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Sun 11/02/08 06:27 AM

What are you two arguing about? Whether or not cadavers can process stimuli from external sources? I will have to go back and read the entire thread I guess. laugh


"Krimsa" ...I will explain what is going on for you...right now "Tribo" is confuse and not sure whether he exist or not ..he thinks he's just a figment of his own imagination

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Sun 11/02/08 06:35 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 11/02/08 06:45 AM
Well thats pretty subjective. I gauge my own existence by the extent that I can effect the environment around me. My "carbon footprint" so to speak but everyone understands it to be something different. Also, spirits have a much more difficult time manipulating the material world. At least that is how we always think of them. They might do some strange things but they cant interact to the same extreme that live humans can with their physical manifestation.