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Wed 02/18/09 09:06 PM


I gave this guy tips on how to attract a woman and lo and behold he is going on a date becuase of me! I feel so proud of myself.:banana:


Got the flip side version on how to attract men???


just be yourself

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Wed 02/18/09 08:33 PM
definately

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Wed 02/18/09 07:24 PM

You make me laugh. Last week Geitner speaks and the market drops 400 points. Yesterday Obama signs his spending bill and it drops 300 points.

Blaming Bush is only going to go so far.



the stock market was droppong long before obama took office . with this new bill it might actualy recover

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Wed 02/18/09 07:11 PM
zakk wylde - rythom
dime bag darrel (r.i.p.)lead
gene simmons - base
vinnie paul - drums
glen danzig-vocals

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Wed 02/18/09 07:03 PM
zakk wylde:(in this river)

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Wed 02/18/09 05:12 PM
pantera: cowboys from hell

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Wed 02/18/09 05:11 PM
i have actualy tried this and if you are stoned it is a trip

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Wed 02/18/09 12:32 PM
i dont know you seem like a great girl to me .

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Wed 02/18/09 12:26 PM





i was a history major in college so i completly agree that those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it but you have made the arguement for me you teach them of the negative things that can happen from an action . it's no living in fear but in the knowlege that there are repercussions for everything . you dont fear them you know they are there . like i tell my children you know thats wrong and if you do it there will be problems . it's not to scare them it is to teach them about accountabuility.


sometimes it is not enough to just say "don't do it".

Then the child says "yeah, yeah, okay whatever."

and the child does it anyway

and when it happens you go "well I told you so".

So to take a better approach

get out of your way

and go beyond then just saying "you will have consequences" if you do this

go and show through a movie (if there is a good one), books, show examples, take them to people who have been afflicted with the problem and see.

so the problem will never in a thousand years ever cross the mind of a child. So they will have a clear understanding on how to react and deal with real problems when they are alone.

This is good parenting in my opinion

yet

for many this is too much effort and work after a long hard day at work.






the point is you say do not live or govern by fear . but what you suggest we do is the same thing most of us parents already do . if i tell my kids dont play with guns and then show them a picture of a kid who mistakenly shot himself . does that not breed fear . but it also bears the fruit of knowledge and tells them that this is the repercussion . and even if you show them what can happen they can still make the choice to do it anyway . my dad was a cop and put me in a jail cell as a kid to show me what it is like but i have been in jail as adult . because of my own decisions


then perhaps the education your father showed you wasn't sufficient enough.

While we have decisions to make on our own, I find it important that we give a lasting impact as a parent to our children to ensure that such problems will not occur.

I am sure if you think back it could have been done that you didn't have to go to jail if you had listened to your father or contemplated on the situation a bit longer.

The lessons that I give is not to create fear, but to make a understanding of the consequences and show the consequences of others who have been through it. That is not a scare tactic, but a reality.

No one in my family has ever sat in a jail. Is it a consequence or is it because we try to avoid it by all costs or is it because we educated ourselves.

In the long run we informed each other to stay out of trouble.

This is what I mean. In the long run whatever you find right for your child's education, I surely believe you think it is the right decision and I hope in the end that your child will do well in the lessons you teach.





true but we all have our on minds. I can teach my son until i'm blue in the face but at the end of the day...he makes the choice. looking back i know i should have listened to my mom, but i had to learn the hard way at times. that made me a stronger person. you know the old saying about how our parents don't understand because they were never kids lol. i admit..i thought that as a teen. but as a parent now, i understand the thinking.




we never listen to what our parents say . thats a part of growing up . it has nothing to do with how they raised us . and smiley you make my point for me when you say it is not about living by fear but knowing what could happen happen . it is always the same way when we tell someone what could happen it's not a scare tactic it is to get the seriousness of the consiquence across. and sometimes the truth is scary

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Wed 02/18/09 11:01 AM


i was a history major in college so i completly agree that those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it but you have made the arguement for me you teach them of the negative things that can happen from an action . it's no living in fear but in the knowlege that there are repercussions for everything . you dont fear them you know they are there . like i tell my children you know thats wrong and if you do it there will be problems . it's not to scare them it is to teach them about accountabuility.


sometimes it is not enough to just say "don't do it".

Then the child says "yeah, yeah, okay whatever."

and the child does it anyway

and when it happens you go "well I told you so".

So to take a better approach

get out of your way

and go beyond then just saying "you will have consequences" if you do this

go and show through a movie (if there is a good one), books, show examples, take them to people who have been afflicted with the problem and see.

so the problem will never in a thousand years ever cross the mind of a child. So they will have a clear understanding on how to react and deal with real problems when they are alone.

This is good parenting in my opinion

yet

for many this is too much effort and work after a long hard day at work.






the point is you say do not live or govern by fear . but what you suggest we do is the same thing most of us parents already do . if i tell my kids dont play with guns and then show them a picture of a kid who mistakenly shot himself . does that not breed fear . but it also bears the fruit of knowledge and tells them that this is the repercussion . and even if you show them what can happen they can still make the choice to do it anyway . my dad was a cop and put me in a jail cell as a kid to show me what it is like but i have been in jail as adult . because of my own decisions

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Wed 02/18/09 10:51 AM

Mr. Miles Smiless need to enlighten you,

If a child becomes inobedient, revolting, or a troublemaker it is because the parent didn't do a good job in educating, caring, and showing the consequences of negative approaches.

One doesn't need a religious document to teach a child how to live a life.

One can live under one rule only

"Don't do that what you don't want done to you"

and show examples to learn the lessons a child needs to know concerning valuable morales

Violence - including spankings is not a lesson

it is a "fear" tactic

to show who is in control

and if you don't obey then you will get it from me!

that is not teaching a valuable lesson in my opinion

it is teaching how to get someone to fear you

My relation with my child will never be to where I am feared

but to be loved, trusted, cared, and understanding

Now I am sure you are saying well what do you do with a child who is unruly

well first of all children are not unruly! They just don't know and that is where education begins

My daughter straight A student honor role student, schools spelling bee champion, never fought anyone, walks away from violence, believes in the power of now this moment and not what was, enjoys life, and learns the first time when something is wrong without the resort of violence, although this rarely happens as I am always there one step ahead teaching what to avoid and what to not do, by also giving examples (not on her) but to show what could happen.

We are the "Gods" for our children. Not the bible, not the torah, not the koran, or any other works of art that one holds holy.


When a child does a mistake it is primarily because they didn't know or the influence of peer pressure.

So you have to teach your child how to react to negative, how to deal with the situations, and to live a more positive life.

and not say" well I told you so"

I never raised a hand to any child or woman

I never treat my child less then me but as a equal

and that is the same for my wife

and that is how you raise family

not the teachings of any religious document that tells you otherwise.

Woman are not less then you
Children are not less then you

and we don't teach "fear" to stimulate good behavior unlike many religous documents written by men who didn't know how to control their families and found the only solution in doing so is by teaching "harsh" tactics.







let me get one thing straight . we can only point our children down the right path b teaching them wrong from right . which you are correct you dont need the bible to do . but i reiderate it is common since because religion made it so . my parents did a great job raising me taught me wrong from right and every mistake i have made because i chose not to listen to what they taught me my whole life has nothing to do with where they made mistakes .

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Wed 02/18/09 10:46 AM
and to quote on the topic , christianity does not teach not to respect women . my mother is the pastor of a church . there are certain religions in christianity like mormons who do not allow women to hold priesthood but it is not christianity in general . you have to remeber christianity lives through the new testiment and on of jesus's most beloved was mary magdaline .

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Wed 02/18/09 10:44 AM

The mighty Spartans respected their women and treated them as equals.

The Spartans in Sparta (supposingly) worshipped or believed in Greek Mythology that once was a religion in their times.

yet I am still not sure if the Spartan's participated in the Greek religion like the rest of the nation did.

for I am uncertain if Greek Mythology respected their women in general?

I just know from reading and watching documentaries that the Spartan's respected their women and even seeked advice on certain political matters.

So yes this would be an unusual event at its time for most of Europe as of the Middle East countries had a different view on how to treat their ladies due to their belief system they practiced.

and still do in some countries.



actualy spartans did participate in the religion of the day . which did respect women as much as men . that is why you have the godesses of ancient greek mythology without respect for women there never would have been godess worship .

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Wed 02/18/09 10:40 AM

I C it being said that why doesn't Yahweh teach us so we know better.

He did.

We have as a society taken the teachings away as no good.

You speak of stonings in the Bible.

Who does the stoning?

The whole community. Do you not think that teaches everyone what consequences of thier actions are?

Do you really believe since we took the Bible away from being a standard it has helped our children?

Have you not read the Papers the last 40 years?

Before the Athiest won the court battle how prepared were your children to go out into the world?

Talking about a backlash.

We say parents abuse thier kids so the state must step in and control things.

Not that it did not happen. I am not saying that.

But now a kid gets spanked at home thier programmed so much at school that they may be abused that they want to call 911 if they get disciplined.

Then what do they see when the police arrive?

Thier parents get a talking to.

Yea that really teaches the kid about who thier true authority is, doesn't it?

So the child does what he wants. The really only recource for the parent is to try and go through the system but we know that so many say the hell with it.

Trying the system may turn on them and then what good has that done the child?

Now the child has turned 18 and all thier lives have learned they can do what they want the police and thier watchdogs, social services has backed them up.

What training now have they got for the real world when they get upset and have always got by with it?

have you not looked around the country and all we hear about is more prisons being built.

WHY?

To now house your children who you were not allowed to disciple.

Wow what a great POLICE STATE we have made by doing exactly as the Authorities want you to.

They have you. They own you. Thier now seems to be no turning back as we said The Bible is not JUST mans thoughts and WAYS are JUST.


Yea how many rights have you lost in the last 40 years since that supreme court decision that eroded our grandparents way of life?

Or do all of you Hate your grandparents and Parents as they were GREAT ABUSERS?

Because that is what you are really saying that they did not know thier head from a hole in the ground and you do.

Sometimes the Truth of who and what we have become is a little frightening... Blessings...Miles



well said

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Wed 02/18/09 10:36 AM
i was a history major in college so i completly agree that those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it but you have made the arguement for me you teach them of the negative things that can happen from an action . it's no living in fear but in the knowlege that there are repercussions for everything . you dont fear them you know they are there . like i tell my children you know thats wrong and if you do it there will be problems . it's not to scare them it is to teach them about accountabuility.

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Wed 02/18/09 10:31 AM
i was refering to film freak responding like soldiers are mass murderers . what we have done in service of our country is the reason he can be here arguing his point .

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Wed 02/18/09 10:24 AM



Good for you yellowrose. Did you raise him in a strict religious environment?


my religious beliefs are mine. I brought him up with the basic beliefs....treat others good, stand up for whatever you believe in and be the best you can be. When he did wrong....yes I punished him, but also let him know why. but he is like me and we think what we think and know that others might not agree and that's ok. I was brought up in a religious back ground. I have nothing against it because i'm my own person with my own brain and heart.

I have taught my son that he can do what he wants in life but be ready for the rewards or punishments. meaning...if he goes on a shooting spree...be prepared to face the music. hopefully i taught him how to be a good man...but it's his choice. i will always love him but doesn't mean i have to agree with what he does. and he doesn't have to agree with me.




If he goes on a killing spree?? I know it's none of my business, but is he joining the armed forces?

Man...I gotta pray for this kid.


what is wrong with the armed forces ? i served my country and am a better person for it ?

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Wed 02/18/09 10:16 AM



So the mentality of those who have posted is to let the child learn from its mistakes without teaching them ahead of time that it can be avoided. Instead just mention it is bad and good luck to you kid.

or one can say learn by experiencing on ones own instead of being educated on how to deal with the situation so it will never happen in the first place.

I don't believe this to be trueindifferent

If one has the power to stop something that is bad then one should try to make it happen.

For example the situation to break up two children bashing their brains out because of a disagreement.

One can actually teach a different alternative instead ahead of time so such a instant doesn't happen in the first place.

Like walk away...

The bible actually teaches not to walk away from violence. It teaches a whole different concept on how to deal with situations that is the opposite of what we should be teaching. Stone children if they don't listen because "God whilst it".


So I can fully understand why the western world is alot more aggressive in many situations because of its teachings. I can understand if you don't see a different alternative then to fight and hit then I can fully understand why violence would be the only choice you know.

With greater powers grows greater responsiblities and it is our responsiblity to make sure to teach a different alternative to lifes lessons to children. A peaceful way even to misundertandings. Does it sound illogical to you? Will it work? Of course it will if you teach it!


There is no evil, there is only misunderstandings that can be corrected if educated. I tire when religous folks say evil when things are not done in the way their scriptures teach them.

so in otherwords, to raise a child without holding their hand is like saying well I told you so and now you suffer the consequences if you don't listen. Instead of trying a different alternative by teaching what would happen if you don't do it a certain way to avoid the uncomfortable. To be an example and rolemodel and give practice to situations so many cuts and bruises are avoided in the end.


That is why there are so many misunderstandings(evil for religious folks) because people don't hold hands when taught lessons.


It is in my opinion important so children can know how to react to situations that doesn't create such scrapes and bad results in the first place.

Teaching and Educating and (Caring) is the key to it all.

So when the child is alone and in a situation they know exactly the best alternative, because they were TRULY educated and not just "MENTIONED" and later told by the teacher "well I told you so".

I do agree we learn from mistakes, well at least most of us do, yet it doesn't answer the question why a god who has greater powers(greater responsiblity) to make sure we children don't do such acts of misunderstandings.

If god does exist who supposingly created life then he can certainly can avoid the creation of nonviolence, aggression, and negative emotions.

So in the end what everyone is saying is

God taught us in the bible on how to be

yet

he doesn't hold our hand in the lessons

because

he told us we have to do it on our own

and

good luck to you kid

instead of

holding our hand and showing us how it can be done

so we can do it right the first time if we are alone in the situation.

Wouldn't you think that would be a better teacher in the end?

I do :smile:












Hitler was a misunderstanding ? there are some evils out there that can only be handled with force . there is no eternal peace , never will be because of human nature . all know the difference of wrong from right but some choose to ignore it . we can tell someone all we want dont kill that person but if they make the CHOICE not to listen then there are punishments for that action . unfortunately there can be no peace without action .


In order to understand Hitler one would have to understand his situation. If you study the history of Germany, you will see that after world war 1 Germans were poor, hungry, and seeking help. Many chose to pray and hoped for a miracle to happen. The political parties SPD and CDU didn't have a solution at the time to reestablish its economy. So religion to pray for a miracle was important to the Germans even though it didn't feed them anything in the end.

but the German Jews did have work. They did have money and did offer work to people, but only to the German Jews. You had to be a jew to get a job.

and you can't just convert either. You had to be for many generations proven to be a jew.

so now let us go to hitler

Hitler finished his apprenticeship and was ready to work in Austria

The town he lived in was primarily Jewish Business

He applied and got rejected of course

in the end

he wrote "Mein Kamp" literally translated to "My Struggles".

He envisioned how to get the economy started again. He envisioned how the German people should be proud of their race.

He in the end won the hearts of the people beating the other political parties

He brought work to the people
they were able to eat again!
buy clothes!

He made Germany a strong economy again in a very short time

So his hatred for Jews is because of his experience with them

Not because he just wanted to hate them for apparent no reason

((If he was educated a different approach in the whole situation))

Perhaps the war would have never happened

perhaps other countries would be willing to help Germany's disaster economy and get them working again.

So yes racism, prejudice, misunderstandings, can be taught while holding a hand if neccessary.

War is NOT neccessary for the survival of mankind

War can be eliminated and it starts with changing each individual minds by educating other alternatives to misunderstandings.






i agree and am familiar with the history my point was that he felt he was justified in what he was doing and talk of peace never would have worked . intervening in any other way other then violence was not a choice . and it was off topic and my fault so i apologize for going off topic

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Wed 02/18/09 10:14 AM
we have gotten way of topic here . and i am guilty of that the topic being common since . i was raised in a strict religious home . and because of that i follow no particular religion . but i do follow god , and gods word . and my kids are raised the same . i go back to my previous areguement that we have common since because of religion . all religions . when you look at religion though you have to remember that although based in a certain beliefe . it was formed by man .

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Wed 02/18/09 10:07 AM
dont get me wrong i follow no religion but if you look through history all religions have taught to do the right thing or there will be consiquenses . do you think if we tell bin laden , or had told hitler , or had to sadam to talk and do the right thing they would listen . no because they believe they are right . as a parent i steer my kids in the right direction . i teach them wrong from right and teach them there are consiquenses for there actions . it's not a fear of but a knowlege of what will happen . even the bible says live not in fear . but in knowledge . knowledge is the greatest motivator.