Women are not suppose to speak on religious matters when the man speaks, women are not suppose to be priest or be a member of the religious higher ruling order, , according to the bible god supposedly made women second from a man’s rib, women aren’t suppose to sit in the same vestibule as the pastor and the list goes on and on ..

Is it possible that the bible is used to train women to be subservient and accept abuse from the man ....in the bible women are treated horribly and considered lesser than a man…is this why many women are leaving religion and going in the direction of spirituality …

with all the education about mental abuse and it's effects,do it now appear that when it comes to religion mental abuse is acceptable and that religion actually trains and demand that women be submissive to the Man

you better run man...the women of this site are gonna kill you!!

In Hitchens book, G-d is not great, there is a good chapter on religion as organized child abuse.

Yes, it does.

well if they do...my theory is wrong

your theory is...well, i suggest reading Esther

on my way to read Esther I ran into Timothy

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

well I guess it's no longer a theory

Women Choose the Wrong Religion! In Wicca it's all About the Goddess. Blessed be, I'm out.

That's a difficult theory to either prove or disprove.
In my own opinion, (and, personal experience- I was raised in a Baptist Christian household) it does.
I honestly believe that not only the Bible, but also the "church" environment teaches women to be subservient.

well Wicca do have their horned God ..

Galatians 3:27-29 (New International Version)

27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Ephesians 5:21 (NIV)

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

And about not allowing women Pastors or Teachers...I guess that depends upon the denomination one is a member of. I believe that a woman under the covering and leadership of her Husband (if she had one) and/or Pastor is sufficient.

that god would sacrifice his only child to die needlessly does send a message that if God can kill his son think of what he would do to you

also to see that son nailed to a cross in agony with symbols and pictures of it displayed around the house and in the church and telling the children the event happen because of them does seem a little warp and can be considered as being child mental abuse

The mighty Spartans respected their women and treated them as equals.

The Spartans in Sparta (supposingly) worshipped or believed in Greek Mythology that once was a religion in their times.

yet I am still not sure if the Spartan's participated in the Greek religion like the rest of the nation did.

for I am uncertain if Greek Mythology respected their women in general?

I just know from reading and watching documentaries that the Spartan's respected their women and even seeked advice on certain political matters.

So yes this would be an unusual event at its time for most of Europe as of the Middle East countries had a different view on how to treat their ladies due to their belief system they practiced.

and still do in some countries.

They Have Several Gods! Each Direction E,S,W,N Has a God and Goddess. the Sun is a God and the Moon is the Goddess, they have Rituals/Mass at night to Honor the goddess.

I worship women. Without the female body, man would not exist.

yep ...sounds like Christ the Man wants everyone to submit to him




they can do like Barabra Streisand did in "Yentl"

actualy spartans did participate in the religion of the day . which did respect women as much as men . that is why you have the godesses of ancient greek mythology without respect for women there never would have been godess worship .

and to quote on the topic , christianity does not teach not to respect women . my mother is the pastor of a church . there are certain religions in christianity like mormons who do not allow women to hold priesthood but it is not christianity in general . you have to remeber christianity lives through the new testiment and on of jesus's most beloved was mary magdaline .

"smiles"...one of the reasons the Greek Men probably respected their women because their religion also worshipped Goddesses that the greek men believed could or would send a thuderbolt up their apse just as fast as Zeus could

well Wicca does seem more about empowering women