Who does? For one thing, an abortion is expensive and not all insurance carriers will cover it. Some will but only partially. In what circumstance is an abortion less expensive and a more practical form of birth control than say, buying a box of condoms from the local drug store? Thats a ridiculous argument used by conservative, right wingers.

I have no hard and fast rules on that. I have to take the individual and his distinctive personality into account.

Those are the strangest animals. They look "constructed" and not real almost.

It’s because he only thinks microevolution is possible. It’s an incredibly worthless discussion.

So in the mean time he ordered the death of thousands of people and that doesn’t bother you? Then he sent his only son in order to put a stop to his own Law that told us to stone innocent people to death essentially. That doesn’t bother you at all? Why were those practices even necessary to begin with? He also attempted to drown the entire planet at one point. This god is somewhat irrational and irresponsible. It’s barbaric.

It pretty much has been substantiated. Its just because we are on a religion forum arguing with fundamentalist Christians that keep insisitng it hasn't been proven. Most Chritians actually accept the theory of evolution. The Catholics do.

But the SAME god comamnded those "Old Testament procedures."

Exactly and that was commanded by Yahweh. You can’t separate old from New Testament. It was ALL the same god.

You also can’t just keep asking for more and more evidence when already you have been given an awful lot as it relates to evolutionary theory. Christians seem to think that they can continually keep denying the process if they "can’t see it." Well go to any museum of Natural History and you can see it. It’s not fair just to keep demanding that every last bone is dug up when some of these are millions of years old. We don’t even need that anymore. There is enough credible evidence to support what they have and they are only achieving better and more conclusive explanations through DNA sequencing now.

If Jesus had never been nailed to a pole, you wouldnt even have a road to salvation today. You should be thanking the Romans.

There is nothing in the fossil record that Charles Darwin did not predict would be there....

That’s right. It’s all Evolution. Its macro evolution. We splintered off but since the apes continued their OWN evolution and we continued our OWN evolution it’s a misnomer to say that we "evolved from chimps". When you hear people say that it’s because they don’t understand at all. Then it leads them to get all confused and they make ridiculous comments like "if we evolved from monkeys, then why are they here."

Arguments like that are just annoying.

You have to also remember that this happened with every animal. Dogs and cats probably shared a common ancestor that diverged at one point.

That's probably a real photo. I hear they LOVE to smoke and they get addicted just like humans.

I have this feeling that fundamentalist Christians back in the 1950s did not even accept the notion of micro evolution. Now they are forced to give into that one because it’s observable.

I don’t know. That one is still being debated. I think it’s possible that we bred with them. Absolutely. Cro-Magnon (which was the prototype) of modern human could have reproduced with them more than likely. Let’s face it. They were dirty, we were dirty and sex feels good and it’s a natural drive. But their heads were huge and flat. They had a flared rib cage and they were much more robust than Cro-Magnon who would have the slighter build. That wouldn’t have mattered for the male Cro-mags to get busy with the female Neanderthals but the female Cro-mags trying to give birth to those babies would have been in trouble. I imagine many were lost in child birth if that occurred. There might have been some hybridization. Unlikely but possible.

Yes and you are right. They definitely had the potential for speech. They ran retrieved DNA evidence from the remains of two Neanderthal around 45,000 years old, and this indicated that they possessed a critical gene known to underlie speech, FOXP2. However their brains were different. Yes they were larger but it is thought they did not have quite the capacity for abstract thought that Cro-Magnon had.



I don’t really know exactly how Cro-Magnon was able to out compete and out maneuver Neanderthal. For example, evidence suggests that Neanderthal women joined their men in the hunt, while Homo sapiens had a division of labor between the sexes that gave them greater versatility and perhaps was a decisive advantage over the Neanderthals. Who knows? That’s another theory. We don’t see any indication that they were creative in the sense of cave artwork yet they designed some very efficient tools and weaponry also. Homo sapiens clearly surpassed them in that respect however. In fact, Homo sapiens also left behind delicately crafted stone tools - probably useless, but highly decorative. That implies they may have liked to show off their skills. We don’t see that with Neanderthal.

I agree! I don’t feel the need for any contracts with the state to somehow legitimize my love for another. Phooey!

No we didn’t "evolve from them." That would imply that there was a chimp and then the chimp began to evolve. Where would chimpanzee be today if that were the case? Where would ANY animal be for that matter? Try to use some of the terms. It’s not "Humanoid". A humanoid is a being whose body structure resembles that of a human. Let’s try to use some of the actual terms and it will help you get a handle. Homo is a genus. Homo is the genus that includes modern humans and their close relatives. The genus itself is estimated to be about 2.5 million years old, evolving from Australopithecine ancestors with the appearance of Homo habilis.

We shared a common ancestor and that was the genus Australopithecus which you can see is almost in the middle. Still very chimp like yet the face is definitely moving in another direction. Australopthecus went extinct as did many of these early hominids. There would be several that would eventually lead all the way up to Homo sapien which is you and I. So what you need to understand is that one fork broke off. This would happen with cats, dogs, horses, all animals. What would eventually evolve into Homo sapiens, split or diverged from chimpanzee. Chimp did not go extinct. It continued on and would eventually evolve into its own distinct species (modern ape). We would do the same and continue on in our evolutionary course but separately. This is why we are 96% identical to chimpanzee but no other animals on the planet. We went in one direction, they went in another. But you are absolutely right. The quadrupeds would keep going down their own evolutionary road and so would we. That is where natural selection comes into play.

Your buttholeness creates some of the more interesting banter on this forum thats for sure.

I would have this occur when I was dating an Indian man. We would go out together and sometimes people would just make ridiculous comments right to our faces. I had to bite my tongue many a time but very often I could tell it was not really being done out of maliciousness but more often it stemmed from a genuine naivety or insensitivity to different cultures and an interracial relationship. The longer we dated, the more accustomed I grew to it. It just happened.