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Tue 02/10/09 11:50 AM

you know what else is interesting? squirrels have eyes and mouths! maybe we evolved from squirrels 900 billion years ago! oh yeah, and giraffes know how to crap! maybe we evolved from them 750 billion years ago!?


laugh


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Tue 02/10/09 11:48 AM

perhaps we share dna with all animals..

roco


No we dont. Thats just it. We share 96% similarity with chimp.

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Tue 02/10/09 11:32 AM
As a Christian I know that God is not happy with Christians having meaningless sex even if it is with other Christians.


laugh laugh Is that a line from Monty Python?

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Tue 02/10/09 11:02 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 11:12 AM
A totally unsubstantiated claim.


Prove that this claim is unsubstantiated.

And we have enough manuscripts to reference of the original languages to now that this claim is not only erronious - but provably false.


If that were the case, wouldn’t you have offered this information for us about 15 posts back?

It is clearly indicated in bibles these das what inconsistancies have been discovered through the translations of the Septuagent and Aramaic. This is not one of those passages.


The discrepancy is explained by apologetics as being a "later editorial insertion."

Like I said - believe who you want according to what your world view is.


My world view includes none of this. I am taking the word of the apologetics in this case. They have offered a viable explanation to tell us why this contradiction exists.

Me - I just look at the facts and see where they lead. I conclude that Jesus did not baptise because the script declares it so.


Interesting you say "script" rather than "scripture." laugh :wink: Also, I have heard from a few other Christians on forum that he DID in fact batize. Sigh. happy


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Tue 02/10/09 10:52 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 10:55 AM
Lets recap my first post today- It basically stated that the scientists are divided and that theories do not equal facts.


I asked you to show proof that scientists are divided. I told you that it is quite possible for scientists to disagree on the precise meanings of their findings. This is an integral part of the formulation of scientific hypothesis and enables a workable theory to be created. I didn’t realize you were unclear on this process. Hopefully we can now move forward with no confusion.

With that being cleared up, how is that irrational?


Stating that the account of creation depicted in Genesis is factual or that it has supportive evidence is irrational unless you can prove otherwise.

You agreed in your response that the scientists were divided


Read my above statement CLEARLY.

Furthermore, you now state that my first statement(my opinion) sounded to you like I was trying to create an argument.


This is true.


As stated you basically did not refute my statement


You have not offered anything for me to refute thus far.

In response to your last response


Why not just use quotes.

I have wasted enough time by defending my right to state an opinion


If you have an opinion, you are quite free to state this position. I am also at liberty to dispute your claims. That is how an open debate forum works.

I am severally bored today but I have no interest at all in the theories that you believe to be facts in the last three pages of this thread.


In other words, you are unwilling to read the thread and digest what has already been stated, yet you are perfectly willing to jump into the debate, post non related subject matter and arguments.

I do not wish to debate this topic despite what you believe.


Okay.


You will most certainly twist this around somehow- it doesn't take long after meeting you to understand this fact.


I have NEVER met you. Stick to the facts here please.

You like to debate, that is fine. I respectfully disagree with your views on this topic. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe.


Wonderful.


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Tue 02/10/09 10:35 AM


The creationist experts were at the hearings, they had been briefed about the chromose #2 months ahead, and yet, deliberately chose to present no counter argument.


Its because they dont have a counter argument.



Actually - that's wrong. The argument does not counter the idea of Intelligent design. The evidence clearly shows that God decided to create the Ape with similar qaulities as humans. For the same reason that sharks are similar to Dolphins - yet one is a fish - the other a mammel.


Read my last post.

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Tue 02/10/09 10:35 AM
Then why did they offer no rebuttal argument? That issue keeps getting glossed over. It doesn’t matter what you or I choose to personally accept now does it? Not in light of that fact.

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Tue 02/10/09 10:18 AM


I apologize. I cant even remember who brought up this contradiction but they did and then feral and Eljay jumped in. Someone needs to just start a separate biblical contradiction thread. I agree it has no place and this one in particular is stupid. All that happened was either whoever wrote this was drunk at the wheel or someone inserted a contradictory verse later because they didnt read John 3.


You brought it up.


That Gary guy brought it up and then you and Feral leaped on it like chimps at feeding time screeching.

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Tue 02/10/09 10:17 AM
Eljay most apologetics explain the passage by insisting the contradiction was caused by a later insertion. Anyone who is functionally literate can clearly see the discrepancy. The apologetics certainly did. As you wish. Believe what you want yet again in the face of stark reality.

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Tue 02/10/09 10:09 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 10:10 AM
In response to your second response above: I should be exempt because I do not make it a habit of arguing topics that can not be proven to people with closed minds.


If you are exempt from making rational statements based in logic and providing supportive evidence for your claims (other than scripture) then what do you want us to do about that if we are capable of this? It would be like me bringing out a Ferrari to race your 6 cylinder Honda Civic.

I stated an opinion thats all.


Really? It sounded more like you were attempting to create an argument. I am perfectly willing to listen to any new or additional information you can bring to the table at this point in time.

I obviously must like to argue pointless debates that can not possibly be proven either way.


I don’t agree with this statement. The overall evolutionary sequence is extensively documented and no longer open to credible dispute. You would be fully aware of this if you had taken the time to read and digest about the past 3 pages of this thread.



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Tue 02/10/09 09:40 AM

It would be a waste of time to try because you or another Agnostic would only ask for irrefutable proof.


That’s interesting. I have never once told you I was an Agnostic yet you immediately jump to this conclusion because I poo hoo the Christian god. huh

There is no irrefutable proof on either side of this debate. There are able Defenders on both sides.


I have never asked any Christian on this forum for anything other than a logical rebuttal to the Theory of Evolution and support for the biblical account of Creation. Why should you be exempt from providing the exact same level of credible evidence that the proponents of biological evolution have been demonstrating on these threads?

It is a pointless topic to debate in my mind.


Then why bother?

Some would ask then why am I posting in this thread


You guessed it.



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Tue 02/10/09 09:33 AM
Yep. They are unreliable but better than nothing. It is recommended that you use them in conjunction with another form of birth control. They are primarily there to protect against disease.

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Tue 02/10/09 09:26 AM
Also, when I was younger, I didn’t know that petroleum jelly {Vaseline} breaks down the latex. blushing I’m sure many women can relate or have made that mistake before they were familiar with condoms.

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Tue 02/10/09 09:18 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 09:22 AM
Can you substantiate that premise? huh And since when are scientists not permitted to disagree on the results of their own findings? Isn’t that part of the scientific research method? You see Gary; unfortunately, we don’t have ONE book with all the answers for us wrapped up with a neat little contradictory bow. happy

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Tue 02/10/09 08:39 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 08:40 AM


Especially Catholics. They do a lot of kneel, stand, sit back down, all through their rituals and Mass on Sundays.

Exactly Krimsa. Why is it that those rituals are perfectly acceptable but ours aren't?


Well honestly I feel that the Catholics are the "least removed" from the Pagans. In fact that’s not just my opinion. If you look online, there is plenty of historical evidence to support this. I also believe that is why the Protestants hate and fear the Catholics so much and are always attempting to "distance themselves" from them. Well of course the Catholics murdered the Protestants historically but it goes beyond that. The Protestants feel that the Catholics put FAR too much emphasis on the Virgin Mary and their rituals are all deeply entrenched in many pagan rites.

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Tue 02/10/09 08:34 AM


So I just had to get on and tell someone about tonight because I know you won't think I'm crazy. I'm not sure if tonight is the technical full moon, but it looks so lovely out there. And there's a storm coming into our area so the air outside just feels eclectic. So I grabbed a couple of my friends and we ran around outside for a while. Then we burned some sage and I cast a circle and we all made a wish. Not terribly orthodox, I know, but it was last minute and I figured a wish on a night like tonight couldn't go wrong. Then we just ran around some more and howled at the moon. It was silly I know, but so much fun. I'm sure if anyone saw us they thought we were all high. And actually some of our howls were answered, which is odd since our campus is in the middle of town. But I just wanted to tell someone since we had so much fun, and like I said I know you guys won't think I'm crazy. :P
Playing outside under a full moon, dancing and making wishes looks no more ridiuclous than kneel, sit, pray, stand, kneel in a 'real church'.


Especially Catholics. They do a lot of kneel, stand, sit back down, all through their rituals and Mass on Sundays.

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Tue 02/10/09 08:10 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 02/10/09 08:13 AM

On a more serious note now.... here's another interesting read...

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2004

Have a Good day Krimsa......and everyone...

only have a few free minutes this morn.....Be Blessed Nowflowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



MS these apologetics sites have zero credibility. They are Christians who sit there and try to defend the bible in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. It’s pointless. However, you can always follow Eljay’s lead and find a dentist or two to argue the validity of Creationism. They went to dental school and such. Or maybe you can even dig up Kent Hovind although he’s in prison at the moment for some sort of tax evasion issue. blushing

I guess he's a "fake Christian." :wink:

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Tue 02/10/09 07:54 AM
Where were all you bible thumpers back when abortion was outlawed in this country and women were forced underground to have the procedure in dark, unsanitary conditions at the hands of back alley butchers? We certainly didn’t hear you then screaming for the lives of these ADULT women did we? Although you will make a huge stink over a fetus. Illegal abortion was the number one killer of pregnant females during the period of time that it was outlawed.

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Tue 02/10/09 07:47 AM
That is irrelevant. You don’t have to be able to see while someone takes photos of you. :tongue:

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Tue 02/10/09 07:45 AM
Jesus himself stated that most humans are bound for hell.