It is better not to marry. But if you must have sex, then get married. It's better to be married than burn forever in hell.

Probably what is confusng you a little is the premise behind the theory of universal common descent. In biology, it is generally accepted that all living organisms on Earth are descended from a common ancestor or ancestral gene pool.

But things went in different directions. You can kind of imagine it like forks. Or branches extending outward from a tree trunk. The fossil record seems to indicate that Australopithecus (the photo of the model) is the common ancestor of the distinct group of hominids, and most likely the genus Homo which includes modern humans. So that probably was the common ancestor. Although the intelligence of these early hominids was likely no more sophisticated than modern apes, the bipedal stature jumps out as being the key evidence which distinguishes the group from previous primates who are quadrupeds. Bipedalism begins to be seen in these recovered skeletal remains around 6 million years ago, which is the time that the split occurred between humans and chimpanzees indicated by genetic studies.

Jane Goodall was brave. I find chimps and gorillas to be fascinating to watch BEHIND a protective structure. No way would I get that close and she was letting them touch her hair and stuff. That’s pretty amazing. Chimps actually frighten me more than gorillas. They seem much more prone to temper tantrums that can erupt without warning. Just like humans.

I bet a lot of parents feel that way after they have em.

Yeah I guess that analogy is a bit oversimplified but I don’t really understand how people can say that micro evolution is possible within a species but macro evolution over the course of 100 of thousands of years is somehow totally implausible.

You understand you are not a chimp correct? A hominid is any member of the biological family Hominidae (the "great apes"), including the extinct and extant humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. This was our common ancestor. Forensic artists made this model from her skeletal remains.



This is a fleshed out model rendition of Lucy. "Lucy" (Australopithecus afarensis) dating back about 3 million years.

No it isnt. How is telling you that it is the same process that simply requires a greater length of time asking you to make a "stretch."

No, that wouldnt be microevolution.

Dont you understand what an analogy is?

So essentially you are telling me that because you are Christian you won’t listen to anything I say anyway? Why should I waste my time then? Also, why would your god allow for micro evolution if he supposedly created you and every other animal perfectly designed and formed already? You can’t just pick and choose the little bits you want to believe. Show me proof that anything was ever created fully formed and ready to go. Surely your god is omnipotent and that should have been a snap for him. Explain Neanderthal man and why his mitochondrial DNA sequencing is divergent of Homo sapien. How many tries did your god require in order to create human?

Well if I asked you to cross the street could you do that? If I asked you to walk to the next town over would that be impossible for you to accomplish? But that is what you are essentially stating when you say that micro evolution is possible but macro is not for some odd reason.

Who are you talking to? You quoted yourself. I also told YOU that YOU can not declare that you accept micro evolution but not Macro. Please follow along.

You aren’t following this discussion at all sir. You can’t just run around claiming that micro evolution is fact and macro is the work of Satan.

I’m assuming that is some sort of rhetorical question but if my mom had aborted me, I would have never known. If you don’t believe in a spirit, then I never would have begun on this earth. If you do believe in a spirit, then I would have had another shot at it. Either way, my mother would have had the right to make that decision.

Right. The poaching is out of control. I think there are some efforts made to stop that but poor people hunt down wild chimps and gorillas in Africa to make a few bucks to feed their families. They also steal the infants to be sold. I read that gorillas are found murdered with only their hands cut off. They use their hands to make ash trays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdQRvSdLAs&feature=related

Here is that other video but I just took it from that Evolution thread and have not looked at it yet myself.

Beware Christians. They are evolving faster than we are!

I give up.

No you are not mistaken but we do not share 96% and evidently more according to some later studies that indicate a fused chromosome. I’m a little confused on that and need to look at those videos however. It’s on the evolution thread. Or one of them.

Comparing the new genome with that of other animals in the elephant family also provides evidence that the elephant family diverged on roughly the same timeline that primates separated, suggesting there may have been a common cause for the splits.

"I think the divergence is the most interesting thing from this study," said lead author Michael Hofreiter, an evolutionary biologist at the Max Plank Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.

This short video is very helpful in understanding what this means exactly. The elephants are used as a comparison incidentally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3vic82uARI