Sounds like a bad peyote trip.


Drugs are bad.
Mmmmkay?

seems like the police wants to be secretive... i wonder why? lol

i think it's illegal to film cops in Texas, or it's on the books to be, but the kid that was killed in Arlington had no film of anything, the cop wasn't wearing a camera... so much for at least trying for some honesty...

Recently, some law enforcement officials have announced plans to urge law makers to make it illegal to record police incidents via cell phones.

Would this be a good idea or set a bad precedence?

OMG,that's Osama bin Shopping!

Actually, you have it backwards. The Washington Post reported the solar scientist that did the work said, "On the one hand, Zharkova maintains that her research was not intended to make assumptions about the effects of solar variation on climate — only to lay out predictions about the solar activity itself. “What will happen in the modern Maunder Minimum we do not know yet and can only speculate,” she says."

It is the press who came up with the "ice age" connection. The climate scientists said she didn't know anything about climate research and that the solar minimum will have little effect.

my point is...that no steel and concrete skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire damage in the history of steel and concrete buildings, no not a single one....

because the wtc towers prove, beyond a doubt, that it can be done just as easily and safely

by taking out 3 or 4 floors up near the top with explosives and a fire accellerant and that steel and concrete building will absolutely fall straight down like a stack of pancakes

....i'm sure all the demo companies will be instituting this amazing industry revolutionizing new technique on their very next contracts....

WT7 came down at free fall speed.

Straight down.

you tellem Hotrod.

Geez guys. If you really want to know the science behind how the 9/11 buildings fell, I posted ALL the science on Mingle2 years ago. I posted all the physics and explained it from scratch because I am an expert in structural engineering and forensics. I am even aware of some of the design flaws in the tower construction which led to the use of light truss construction (which shouldn't have been used in the first place).

The "thermite" theory is nonsense. The sulfur that seem so mysterious is just a common ingredient in sheetrock/drywall which is made of calcium sulfate of which there were TONS.

The steel reaches failure mode at about 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. The fire from the jet fuel burned at about 1,800 degrees. I posted the strength/temperature curves for steel which shows exactly how much strength is lost as the steel heated up. At 1000 degrees the trusses only had half their strength which is about when you would expect them to fail.

Building seven has two vertical truss supports that took the place of the main interior columns. The falling debris set fire to the building adjacent to one of the trusses and (trust me on this one) trusses are not near as fire resistant as typical heavy steel or steel/concrete columns. The ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers) even did a nice computer study of the way that the vertical truss pulled down the building as it failed. The computer simulation matched EXACTLY the photographic evidence of what actually happened.

In a similar note, the shear connections on the two towers are what was expected to fail in a fire but the actual failure mode was more of a rotation of the shear connections which allowed the columns to bend resulting in column buckling from P-Delta effect. (resultant loads off center from the column centerline which induces bending).

Lots of photos were introduced into conspiracy websites showing melted steel which were actually where the firemen and contractors cut the metal with torches to look for survivors or remove large pieces of the building.

I am not sure why anyone thinks it takes more than the planes to bring the buildings down. All it took was a lot of heat to an already damaged structure hit by a plane. ALL the science and physics backs up failure by this mode.

The real science is just as available on the web as the junk. Why not study how the real world works and prove it to yourself?

According to the official theory, the Twin Towers collapsed due to the structural steel being weakened by fire. In other words, they collapsed due to fire. if that's the case, then how come no modern high-rise, before or after 9/11, has ever collapsed because of a fire?? If that's the case, 9/11 would be the first time in history a modern steel building has ever collapsed due to fire or steal weakened by fire.

For example, why didn't this building collapse?



1991 One Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia, raged for 18 hours and gutted 8 floors of the 38-floor building. 1988 First Interstate Bank Building fire in Los Angeles, which burned out of control for 3-1/2 hours and gutted 4 floors of the 64 floor tower. Both of these fires were far more severe than any fires seen in Building 7, but those buildings did not collapse. The Los Angeles fire was described as producing "no damage to the main structural members".

Or this one?



Skyscraper in Madrid Spain burned for almost 24 hours, no collapse.

These out of control infernos burned much more longer and much more intensely,
but remained standing.



Compared to this weak, under control smoldering fire, burned less than an hour,
which caused the WTC towers to collapse but the others are standing!??



i call bull$h1t!

9/11 investigation spent 16 million dollars, bill clintons blowjob and other clinton scandals, 50+ million.

And? Does the amount spent on it automatically bring the findings into question?

well you would think they could afford to spend more money investigating one of the biggest "terrorist" attacks in history, than bill clintons marital indiscretions. i would anyway.

What cannot? The collapse took 17.5 seconds. What is your point.

Actually # 7 came down in 6 seconds.

Did you miss that part in your extensive research of 9/11?

Think about it for a moment. Painting on a coat of thermite will do very little in order to destroy a long-span open plan building. It would be a nice flash though.