There is only one reason we will get involved and it isn't because we are afraid of another terror attack....

OIL

We should send arms to the Shiites.
We should send arms to the Sunnis.
We should send arms to Iraq.
We should send armss to Iran.
We should send arms to Syrian rebels.
We should send arms to Syrian army.

Let them all fight and kill each other.

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi....I think most people are really tired of hearing about Benghazi. FOX and the GOP have spent way too much time on this Benghazi crap....time to move on.

I just love how people from the South or the East think they know how things work out here in the WEST when it comes to cattle ranching and grazing permits. Seeems to me like a lot of people supporting Cliven Bundy are just doing it because they are anti-government.

I am Native Arizonan and have grown up with ranching uncles, aunts, many cousins, family and friends in Arizona cattle ranching. Many were homesteads that date back before statehood...1880's.

Most of the lands out here are either Forest Service or BLM that ranchers graze their cattle on. Very little land of the ranch is patent/private land. They have permits to run X amount of cattle on their allotments, depending on the size of the allotment and the quality of the grazing land.

The entity that issues the permit, either Forest Service or BLM has always been able to regulate how many cattle you run on your allotment, based on the quality of the grazing land. One ranch I spent a lot of time on originally had an 800 head permit that was cut back over the years to around 400 as the land became overgrown with oak brush, juniper and cedars. Another rancher I know had to pull all his cattle off for a couple years due to lack of rainfall, droughts and extremely poor range conditions. As conditions improved, they put the cattle back on.

All the ranching families I know out here in Arizona have paid their grazing permit fees. Cliven Bundy is really SCREWING UP BAD and will lose his ranch in the end....so much for the history of the Bundy family.

The real value in these ranches is the permit.

Cliven Bundy said a lot more that what you have posted here....he is really an idiot. He also said something to the fact that blacks are living off government subsidies...what the hell, look at him, grazing his cattle on federal/public lands for free? Talk about subsidies!

He will end up in jail.

Cliven Bundy is nothing but an idiot, racist, anti-government, deadbeat rancher. He will end up in jail.....

Evidently, the youtube video was bogus as it has been deleted..

I was preparing my Fed Income Taxes today on TurboTax and had a big surprise. I really didn't think the ACA was going to affect me but it sure hit my wallet on my Fed tax Return.

I am sure a lot of people are going to be surprised by this also. Most people who itemize their deductions can claim deductions for medical expenses that exceed 10 percent of their adjusted gross income.

Previously, the law permitted deductions for unreimbursed expenses in excess of 7.5% of their adjusted gross income.

This little change in the tax law cost me $1,700 !!!!

NOT HAPPY!

I agree....we should get ALL Americans "out of harms way".
Get everyone the hell out of the middle east.

Neil Cavuto is spreading the propaganda that the corporatocracy wants the public to believe. If you listen to FOX and you buy his BS, you really need to wake up.

The Affordable Care Act will roll out and people will see that its a good thing....maybe didn't go far enough.

My question to all you who are bashing the act, do you have health insurance?

Seems to me like the GOP is fighting tooth and nail to try to stop Obamacare.

They are afraid....very afraid...that people will see that it is really beneficial and will like it.

Senator Cruz and others are moving the GOP farther and farther to the extreme right.

They are going to have a very hard time winning the White House in the future if they keep up with this strategy...some of them know this.

I am currently paying out of pocket $707 per month for single coverage in Arizona for a Blue Cross plan.....That's almost $8,500 per year.

It's going to be interesting to see what I can buy a plan for on October 1st.

I am thinking I am going to be saving some $$$

After watching the entire interview on PBS with Charlie Rose and Bashar al Assad, President of Syria, I am beginning to think we are on the wrong side of this fight.

We should not be launching an attack and we should not be supporting the so called "rebels".

It was interesting to hear the other side of the story in Syria.

http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2013/charlie-rose-interviews-bashar-al-assad/

Check out the previous post....I made an edit and included a new link. It's an interesting report....

I thought your numbers looked low??....I did a quick check on DOJ statistic website and found this:

The U.S. prison population declined for the third consecutive year in 2012, from a high of 1,615,487 inmates in 2009 to 1,571,013 at yearend 2012.
The U.S. imprisoned 27,770 fewer prisoners (down 1.7%) at yearend 2012 than at yearend 2011.
The federal prison population increased by 1,453 prisoners in 2012 (up 0.7%), while the state prison population declined by 29,223 prisoners (down 2.1%).

Just a quick look.....

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4737

On taking a second look....looks like your prison population numbers are just for Federal Prisons?

This PDF link has a lot more data/statistics:

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p11.pdf

Ya'll just watch....the real target is going to be Iran and their nuclear program.

The US Military is preparing....they want you to believe they are dessimated by sequester. You bought the BS.

Decimated is too strong...Choose something better, like weakened for instance...US military is still coping with the effects of of two very long wars, a diminishing budget, and foreign policy idiots�Our defense department is uneasy and rightly so!�Those who are most concerned are the ones who had, and still have, hands on experience in both Iraq and Afghanistan�They don't like the odds of launching an attack against Syria because they understand what the consequences could, and probably will, involve�Since when did America's foreign policy obligations include "spanking" anyway?�What happens if Assad absorbs our strikes?�Will he launch a full scale chemical weapons war?�What about our exit from Afghanistan?�We are still losing troops there!�If we strike, I don't see how we can avoid deeper involvement...That's the only part you got right�The rest is like every other chitty conspiracy theory...Just a pile of chit that normal people have to avoid stepping in....

Neoconservative Bill Kristol said that the so-called cuts �would decimate our military.� The military budget has not been cut...all they "cut" was the projected rate of increase. Sure Assad will absorb the strike, but his military won't. Knock out his airfields and you rule the sky. He won't be able to launch airstrikes to take out the Israeli jets flying to hit Iran.


And what the heck was that we launched from Vandenberg the other day?

It was a test shot THAT MISSED ITS MARK! �Sure hope they can determine why before they put your theory into play!!�They have been testing this interceptor since '04, still don't have it perfected!�PS, it's in response to Korea, not Iran...

You must have read some old news....go to space.com
A Delta 4 Heavy rocket (USA's largest)carrying a payload for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) lifted off from Space Launch Complex-6 at Vandenberg at 11:03 a.m. PDT today (August 28). Designated NROL-65, the top secret mission is in support of national defense. This is ULA�s eighth launch in 2013, the 24th Delta 4 mission and the second Delta 4 Heavy launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base.

It's poker...It's strategy. If I was playing poker, I would want you to think I had a real sheety hand.

Why haven't we heard much from Iran lately?

Because they're not that stupid?

Actually, they are that stupid...this just in:

TEHRAN, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- An intercepted order from Iran instructs militants in Iraq to hit the U.S. Embassy and other interests if a military strike on Syria occurs, U.S. officials said.

Officials said the recently intercepted message was sent by Qasem Soleimani, head of Revolutionary Guards' Qods Force, to Iranian-supported Shiite militias in Iraq, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

They are getting involved, just as planned...and will pay the price. Looks like the game is unfolding just as I predicted.


F Russia. Putin is the real sissy and the US Military knows it. They will not jump in when we hit Syria and Iran.




Doesn't everyone want Iran's nuclear program hit?

No
Wrong....nobody wants to see a nuclear Iran.

Why is McCain a big supporter of the attack?

Because he's senile...

Because he knows we are going to take out Iran's nuclear capability.

He knows the game.

He's forgotten most of it....

You don't forget war...he was a pilot and a POW. You don't forget that experience.

It's all a ruse.

Ruse, muse...Typos happen...

Just watch...........OK

It's all a ruse...trickery...strategy.

Just watch.....

Ya'll just watch....the real target is going to be Iran and their nuclear program.

Israeli/American military will take it out.

The Syria incident provided the opportunity.

The US Military is preparing....they want you to believe they are dessimated by sequester. You bought the BS.

And what the heck was that we launched from Vandenberg the other day?

It's poker...It's strategy. If I was playing poker, I would want you to think I had a real sheety hand.

Why haven't we heard much from Iran lately?

Who is their new president? Where is he?

Where are the mullahs?

It's pretty quiet at that end of the table.

F Russia. Putin is the real sissy and the US Military knows it. They will not jump in when we hit Syria and Iran.

Doesn't everyone want Iran's nuclear program hit?

Why is McCain a big supporter of the attack?

He knows the game.

It's all a ruse.

Just watch...........

Many of you may think Prsident Obama is an idiot and has made some big mistakes in this latest Middle East dilema. You watch the media and are being fed a story that, when you really think about it, doesn't add up.

The President may be a lot of things but he is no dummy. He is a thinker, a strategist, playing a very cool hand.

Do you think he really wants to leave a legacy of just lobbing a few Tomahawks at Syria?

Do you remember the night before the Bin Laden raid that killed him in Pakistan, where was Obama? He was at the Press Corps banquet, cool as hell, making jokes.

Did you hear where he was during the actual raid on Bin Laden's compound? He was in another room playing poker.

Do you really think the Syrian leader Assad would launch chemical weapons into a neighborhood with UN Inspectors 5 miles away?

Isn't it convenient that this chemical weapon incident happened and opened an opportunity for the US Military to launch an attack?

Do you think Syria is the final target of this operation being mounted?

This is a high stakes game of Poker. While everyone is arguing about "red lines" and other BS, Obama is going to pull an ace out of his sleeve.

Something very much bigger is about to happen.

Iran's nuclear program is the real target...the prize.

Once we launch a strike and take out Syria capabilities to respond, Iran will be be forced to support their only ally in the region. This opens the door for an Israeli/American response to knock out their nuclear program.

Just watch....

The Syrians are bombing the Syrians so we better get involved and bomb the Syrians?

This is really F'd up!

If you watched the Senate hearing....you come away with a clear understanding that there is a possibility that Chemical Weapons may need to be "secured" and there will be "American Boots on the Ground."

I have been watching the Senate hearings on Capitol Hill. The question was posed to Sec. Kerry regarding "boots on the ground".

He would not rule it out absolutely and responded with a scenario where cache of chemical weapons may fall into the hands of the bad rebels, American troops would be sent in to secure those chemical weapons.

If we attack, it's going to be a hell of a mess.

We need to stay out of Syria.