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Now let us look at some facts, Israel got over their age of blood but never got over their need to defend themselves. Nobody ever gets over the need to defend themselves, but there is a distinct difference between defence and vengeance and i don't see Israel making that distinction, which is contrary to the Judaic religion: "Vengeance is Mine saith the Lord." It is just because of anti-Israel bias that you cannot see the distinction. Israel does not attack Gazans or people in the West Bank ever without extreme provocation such as bombing attacks on Israeli buses and marketplaces bombings and restaurant bombings. Israel does not attack people in Gaza except those who are actively involved in trying to launch rocket attacks on Israeli cities. Obviously such attacks on innocent Israeli citizens must be stopped. But whenever they do stop then there is peace. It is completely up to those attacking Israel. If they want peace all they have to do is to cease unwarranted attacks on Israel and there is always peace. Bus, cafe and marketplace bombings are not self defense. These are war crimes. Rocket attacks targeting cities solely to inflict civilian casualties are war crimes on the face of it. Israel has never engaged in this type of activity. There is no comparison between checkpoints or weapons cargo inspections on the one hand and hijacking airplanes full of innocent people and jet fuel and flying them into office buildings full of more innocent people on the other hand. Because of radical Islamic attacks such as these bombing attacks, we all have to endure inspections and checkpoints of cargo ships and at airports, bus terminals, rail stations etc. Palestinian militants who are launching these terrorist attacks daily in Gaza and the West Bank force other Palestinians to endure checkpoints also because innocent people must be protected. Not only did The Catholics have the Crusades but Islam likewise had their invasions as well. True. But the Catholic Church has finally gotten past their age of blood as well. Tell that to the kids murdered and buried in the Indian residential schools that the church STILL refuses to acknowledge. Islam however has not. From what I understand, there haven't been any muslim conquests since 1800. So what have they been up to lately except responding to assaults on their lands by foreigners? The Catholic Church was hardly responsible for all the abused in Indian Residential schools and as bad as these schools were, they were not "holy war". Of course there were the Crusades but the point was that there has not been anything the like of them since and comparing the forced re-education of Indian residential schools to the Crusades is not really credible. There are no modern Catholic calls for "holy war" of course. As far as Muslim calls for "holy war" you do not have to go back to the 19th century. It is on the news daily all over the world today. There are currently radical Islamic attacks in Afghanistan, Gaza, Russia, Indonesia, Israel, India, Pakistan, Algeria, Sudan, Lebanon and elsewhere and it is very well documented as modern Crusade-like fundamental Islamic holy war (Jihad) particularly in Iran. http://youtu.be/AediQLpoGGM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_fundamentalism Central figures of modern Islamism include Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Banna, Abul Ala Maududi, Taqiuddin al-Nabhani, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, and Navvab Safavi. Of all faiths present who declares holy war in the name of their god? Major clerics & Rabbis in all three of the Judaic religions. Nonsense. There is not now nor have there ever been in recorded history any major rabbi who has declared a "holy war" in the name of God. Name one who led more then a handful of people ever. Make sure to say which "holy war" it was. 
Likewise for Christians. Where are the calls for Christian "holy war"? Hmmmmmmm? Where are your Christian armies today? No, Islamic radicals who are perverting true Islam are the problem at this time and we all have the responsibility to speak out against such barbarism as is sponsored in Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan and Pakistan particularly at this time. If people wish to truly advocate against bigotry and for peace then it must start by recognizing the radical Islamic Jihad going on today throughout the world and taking clear positions against this modern day bigotry. This is why I always speak out here and elsewhere against such terrorism sponsors in Iran (Ahmadinejad Govt), Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Gaza (Hamas) and Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood). And I make the distinction between Israeli, US and European self-defense from such terror attacks as the rocket attacks from Gaza, the 911 WTC bombings and London and Madrid railway attacks. |
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Religion does not kill people nor does it sanction the killing of
people. All religions abhor violence and murder and condemn it. Intolerant and ignorant people kill other people in defiance of true religious teachings. Intolerance and ignorance are the enemies of civilized and ethical behavior. Iran is a bastion of intolerance and ignorance right now (the corrupt theocratic Iranian government bigots not the Iranian people themselves many who are repressed by their own radical Islamic despots). Israel on the other hand, like the United States, reveres tolerance and religious freedoms. The Hebrews actually have never tried to convert or kill others based on their religious beliefs. But in Iran right now, women are killed in honor killings and severe punishments exist for the crime of anti-Islamic heresy. Yet there are those who berate Israel and their free and tolerant society and praise the Holocaust denying bigotry and antisemitic, anti-Christian, anti-Islamic, radical Islamic terrorist supporters who are running Iran. Great. |
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this was inspired by K's writing "They like it when I bleed" |
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Thanks for reading Ainjel and Leigh |
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http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/119408/why-israel-has-no-newtowns/2
Why Israel has no Newtowns “An armed society,” Nedivi wrote, quoting the science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein, “is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” It may be a bit odd to think of Israeli society as polite, but when it comes to guns it is, and for just the reason articulated by Heinlein: When everyone has a gun, guns are no longer seen as talismans by weak, frightened, and unstable men seeking a sense of self-validation, but as killing machines that are to be handled with the utmost caution and care. |
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Why? In the days since 27 innocents, most of them children, were murdered in Sandy Hook Elementary School, all have been asking that question, trying to make sense of an ultimately senseless act. Simpler minds insisted that anyone who has ever argued in favor of anything but the absolute abolition of firearms was complicit in the murder of innocent children, while more astute thinkers tried to look past their indignation and heartbreak in search of sensible policy alternatives. Not surprisingly, they often ended up looking to Israel, a nation, went the argument, whose citizens are heavily armed yet rarely use their guns to shoot each other.
=-=-= Read about Why Israel Has No Newtowns It’s the Jewish state’s gun culture, not its laws, that prevents mass shootings like the one in Connecticut By Liel Leibovitz|December 17, 2012 10:35 AM http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/119408/why-israel-has-no-newtowns |
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Mon 12/17/12 09:00 AM
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i don't write for me
pointless immortal monument to a transient existence i don't write for you why put on paper something which can be conveyed better more eloquently without words eyes fixed with an embrace i write for me i need to let them go the words all that they represent not taken in arms no way to clasp have got to go |
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Guns...Who should have them?
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s1owhand
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Mon 12/17/12 08:38 AM
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its not so clearcut that 'more guns equals less crime' Then how do you explain Kennesaw Georgia? I have posted links to stories on it time after time and NOT ONE of any of the anti-gun people has even touched it, let alone try to explain it. Here once again is a link explaining Kennesaw.: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/gun-town-usa-25-years-murder-free/28388/ I think I know why nobody in the anti-gun camp has touched the Kennesaw issue...It is the proof and example that disproves the theory that more guns are bad and less guns are good. It becomes obvious that if federal gun legislation were similar to the Kennesaw city ordinance, the entire country would be a safer place to live...period. This of course begs the question...If it is true, then why is federal gun legislation deliberately placing the public in harms way instead of promoting gun use to increase public safety as the city of Kennesaw did? This is a question you should be asking the people in Washington. Obviously, there is a reason they introduce "laws" inimical to the public interest...What is that reason? I'm rather afraid that if they told you the REAL reason they'd like to disarm the public EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE EITHER LEAVING THE COUNTRY OR ARMING YOURSELVES TO THE TEETH. In your lifetime, your government has never given you reason to trust them. For God's sake, don't trust them on this one!
There are lots of places with and without guns which are murder free!
Also there are lots of places with horrible murders which are gun free!! http://mingle2.com/topic/show/342399
Restricted access to heavy arms is always good but the real problem is lack of mental health care and poor education on how to handle and use weapons. We already have restricted access to weapons and many laws relating to that. The problem is those who do not respect these laws and those who have homocidal and or suicidal tendencies. See the mass stabbing attack in china for example or the poisonings of cult followers etc. Hey I am open to better restrictions of firearms but it is dishonest to use the tragedy in CT to revive the debate on gun control. It will be recognized as a fraud and discredit the cause. =-=-=-=-= School Stabbings Focus Attention On China's Mental Health Care System Intl Business Times BY Michelle FlorCruz | December 15 2012 2:39 PM A number of knife-wielding attacks on children in various schools across China have occurred in recent years, underlining the shortcomings of the nation's mental health care system. School Stabbings Focus Attention On China's Mental Health Care System. State-run news agency Xinhua has reported that Min Yingjun, 36, was arrested after he went on a stabbing rampage that left children and an elderly woman injured as they were walking to school on Friday morning. A post on Weibo, China's top microblogging site that's similar to Twitter, described the "vicious incident" that unfolded. "One mental patient charged into a group of students on their way to school, hacked and injured one resident and 22 students," the post read. http://www.ibtimes.com/school-stabbings-focus-attention-chinas-mental-health-care-system-938335 |
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The trick is why did this get moved to coffee houses, bars & chit chat?
I wanted to start a thread about what people think is the secret to having a good life and whatnot. I was not starting a chit chat!? 
Not that there is anything wrong with that...
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I agree with leigh and slow. there done with that..... 
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The trick is to go with the flow! 
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i don't expect there to be tricks. 
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The trick is...sometimes the Lucky Charms work! 
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The trick is you do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
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The trick is there is no trick. 
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The trick is....you have to care just the right amount...
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The trick is I don't think this is a coffee house, bar or chit chat!
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I think one trick is to not have any expectations.
What do you think the trick is? |
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