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There is no scientific proof to support any religion . Not even remotely what I said but whatever. Rant on. I could not care less. now wait...there has to be science in everything now??? what's wrong with having faith in something??? just because I can't touch it or see it....doesn't mean it can't exist. if you don't believe then don't believe....it's your choice but do NOT tell me i'm wrong to believe just because a scientist can't prove it. open minds people..say it with me It's impossible (as of this moment) to prove there is an afterlife. The only way to test this theory via the scientific method would be to verify there is an afterlife with those who have already passed on. Since we can't communicate with the deceased, there is no way to do this. That does not mean there isn't sufficient evidence out there that could lead one to believe there is indeed an afterlife though. More and more is being uncovered every day. But like I said, it's only convincing evidence if you have an open mind. Some people just don't. |
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There is no scientific proof to support any religion . Not even remotely what I said but whatever. Rant on. I could not care less. now wait...there has to be science in everything now??? what's wrong with having faith in something??? just because I can't touch it or see it....doesn't mean it can't exist. if you don't believe then don't believe....it's your choice but do NOT tell me i'm wrong to believe just because a scientist can't prove it. open minds people..say it with me It's impossible (as of this moment) to prove there is an afterlife. The only way to test this theory via the scientific method would be to verify there is an afterlife with those who have already passed on. Since we can't communicate with the deceased, there is no way to do this. That does not mean there isn't sufficient evidence out there that could lead one to believe there is indeed an afterlife though. More and more is being uncovered every day. But like I said, it's only convincing evidence if you have an open mind. Some people just don't. There are many people who died briefly all over this world who were brought back from it. Roughly 75% of those who died temporarily have come back to tell stories of their encounter with the bright light which is described in the King James Version of the bible as well as in other religious documents. I am one of those brought back from death people. God emits the bright light. And through no control of your own after you die the light comes immediately to collect your soul. You are thrown into the spirit world just as soon as your flesh body dies. I'm not a preacher or a scientist. I can't prove what happened because no one who was present there at the time could see anything I was seeing and experiencing during it all. They could only see my flesh body dead and rely on their own version of what was happening. I tried to talk to them but they couldn’t hear me. I saw them bring my flesh body back to life as I was floating upward closer to the source of the light. I tried to tell them I was still alive and was ok. If they had heard me I probably wouldn’t be here to tell my story. How would the scriptures know about this light and life after death and about God if it wasn't true? How could others all over the world experience this same phenomenon if it wasn't true? I don't need science or religion to prove a thing to me about God or his existence. I don't really need to know how or why he exists. I know he exists and so do many others. I don't know if that alone was the reason for my drowning. To know he exists or that life after death does or if it was just purely an accidental thing. I wasn't saved or real religious at the time of the event. I didn't decide to just make up a lie to tell people a bunch of crap so I could proselytize them. I am not even super religious now as far as belonging to a specific church or denomination. I simply believe God is real and so is life after death. For some reason I am compelled on occasion to tell my story because it is the truth. I am not sure if it means a thing to anyone other than me. It is really no different than telling someone about anything else of interest in some respects. I am not trying to tell anyone what to believe or not. I am just telling what happened when I fell in the lake and breathed in the water and saw myself dead is all. I was immediately in the light realizing my body was dead floating upwards while looking down at everything that was going on and hearing what was being said as it was all happening. I was in God’s presence and felt his love and his truth. It was an awesome experience very much unlike original thoughts and fears about death. So my answer to the OP is yes! There is a God he is the creator, our creator and the owner of all souls whether they believe it or not is totally their choice though not his. He forces no one to believe. God is an awesome, humanlike spirit that exists. His presence and love exists and is felt by all, denied by a few, recognized by many, debated by some and rejected by others. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Is there a GOD!I'm sure you that you'll find in these next few years, just that! We do have a God.He doesn't like tempation. Sounds to me, just like thats what your doing.tempting God.knowing him the way I do. I think, hes had about all that he wants,looking down at this place.I do so hope your are ready.NO one in this United States Of America,is that Stupid.Is there A God! Except the goverment. An no, he didn't have a maker. Hes always been. That the First, the Last .the Omega.
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Is there a GOD!I'm sure you that you'll find in these next few years, just that! We do have a God.He doesn't like tempation. Sounds to me, just like thats what your doing.tempting God.knowing him the way I do. I think, hes had about all that he wants,looking down at this place.I do so hope your are ready.NO one in this United States Of America,is that Stupid.Is there A God! Except the goverment. An no, he didn't have a maker. Hes always been. That the First, the Last .the Omega. Exactly you know about Zeus too ![]() ![]() Praise Zeus |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 03/16/08 09:10 PM
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Is there a GOD!I'm sure you that you'll find in these next few years, just that! We do have a God.He doesn't like tempation. Sounds to me, just like thats what your doing.tempting God.knowing him the way I do. I think, hes had about all that he wants,looking down at this place.I do so hope your are ready.NO one in this United States Of America,is that Stupid.Is there A God! Except the goverment. An no, he didn't have a maker. Hes always been. That the First, the Last .the Omega. Everybody thinks God/Jesus is coming back. I'm not so sure that is what or who is coming. I think it is the alien mothership with its draconian Queen of Orion. Well, actually I believe the queen is sending one of her princesses in her place, or so I heard. She is ten times more wicked than the current ruling dragon gods. She is the "white dragon" coming to take back her throne. At least that's the rumor on the alien front. I'll be spinning out about that time. JB |
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it's whatever you chose to believe in
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it's whatever you chose to believe in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If I were to choose something it sure wouldn't be that. It's just the rumor I heard. I would prefer the one about living in a giant holodeck. ![]() |
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it's whatever you chose to believe in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If I were to choose something it sure wouldn't be that. It's just the rumor I heard. I would prefer the one about living in a giant holodeck. ![]() and that's great if that's for you. i for one chose to believe...but that is my choice |
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Yes their is a God I have seen many miracles on a couple of my family memebers first hand and I myself choose to belive nothing less!!!!!!
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Atheism would not exist if God did ...funches 3:16
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it's whatever you chose to believe in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If I were to choose something it sure wouldn't be that. It's just the rumor I heard. I would prefer the one about living in a giant holodeck. ![]() and that's great if that's for you. i for one chose to believe...but that is my choice What I was referring to was the scenario of the alien draconian queen coming to take back her throne. I would not want that to be the reality. I do believe in the one, the only God in a pantheistic sense, but not the biblical God. |
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Atheism would not exist if God did ...funches 3:16 That is a silly conclusion. If you exist, and I can see you do, so I believe you do, then God exists in the pantheistic view. |
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That is a silly conclusion. If you exist, and I can see you do, so I believe you do, then God exists in the pantheistic view. that God exist in the pantheistic view can only be claimed as being a belief and not truth and that is why Atheism exist |
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That is a silly conclusion. If you exist, and I can see you do, so I believe you do, then God exists in the pantheistic view. that God exist in the pantheistic view can only be claimed as being a belief and not truth and that is why Atheism exist Not really because I am certain that I exist. That is not a belief. That is the only thing I am certain about. Everything else is just an opinion. If it turns out that you do not exist, and I am the only one who exists, then I am God and you are just someone in my dreams or someone that I imagined. So to a pantheists proof of God is their own existence. |
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Funches,
Actually I like atheists. They are more grounded than most people, and actually more aware of their own consciousness. JB |
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Not really because I am certain that I exist. That is not a belief. That is the only thing I am certain about. Everything else is just an opinion. If it turns out that you do not exist, and I am the only one who exists, then I am God and you are just someone in my dreams or someone that I imagined. So to a pantheists proof of God is their own existence. hummm remember I asked you to name a God that wasn't egotisical ..well I can rest assure a pantheist will not make that list only because there is no way around the logic that the only existence one could ever prove is the existence of oneself and no one else which is why you have to assume you are God |
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hummm remember I asked you to name a God that wasn't egotisical ..well I can rest assure a pantheist will not make that list only because there is no way around the logic that the only existence one could ever prove is the existence of oneself and no one else which is why you have to assume you are God Not true Funches. A pantheist can't prove whether they are the only one who exits or not. Therefore they don't have to assume anything. You conclusion is incorrect. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 03/17/08 02:35 PM
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hummm remember I asked you to name a God that wasn't egotisical ..well I can rest assure a pantheist will not make that list only because there is no way around the logic that the only existence one could ever prove is the existence of oneself and no one else which is why you have to assume you are God Not true Funches. A pantheist can't prove whether they are the only one who exits or not. Therefore they don't have to assume anything. You conclusion is incorrect. What I am meaning is this. I only KNOW ONE THING FOR CERTAIN. That one thing is that I exist. That is MY PROOF to MYSELF of God. Why? Because I am. I AM THAT. I AM THAT I AM. You may exist. I can't be sure of that. I may see you and I may hear you and I may touch you. But you could be just a dream. You could be all in my mind. You could be a projection in a holodeck. I can't be 100% certain. Imagine this: Yesterday I woke up from this dream and discovered that I was just some sort of brain in a jar connected to a motherboard of circuts. Some strange creature came over and injected me with some sort of blue liquid and suddenly I was back at my computer. Was that a dream? Or is this? Reality is subjective. This could be just a dream. I could be God or I could be a brain in a jar. But the fact remains that I am aware that I exist. Self aware. That is what I am. You all could be an illusion..... ![]() I really don't need proof of God. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. I exist. That is what matters. JB |
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it's whatever you chose to believe in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If I were to choose something it sure wouldn't be that. It's just the rumor I heard. I would prefer the one about living in a giant holodeck. ![]() I was trying to imagine what I would choose to believe if this was true and I couldn't come up with anything. Your holodeck is definitely the way to go. |
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hummm remember I asked you to name a God that wasn't egotisical ..well I can rest assure a pantheist will not make that list only because there is no way around the logic that the only existence one could ever prove is the existence of oneself and no one else which is why you have to assume you are God Not true Funches. A pantheist can't prove whether they are the only one who exits or not. Therefore they don't have to assume anything. You conclusion is incorrect. since the only existence you can ever prove to yourself is the existence of yourself to yourself then you could never prove the existence of any other enity beyond yourself and therefore you have to assume you are God ... |
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