hey lordling

Hey! How've you been Scotty?

I'm not sure if there's a God or not. I know my Dad called me "Jesus Christ!" a lot though.

<======= This is all the god a PPIP ever knows.

(Planet's Primitive Indigenous Population)

No offense intended....
I was just being my usual irritating self. (,,nudge, nudge)

your fine hun. i love to joke

i am just tired of people judging others because their views aren't the same

Religion is the only word where you have to prove nothing and keep talking forever . You can not do that in math ,physics ,chemistry ,philosophy , ....ext . We did not create ourselves by ourselves and we should all agree on that . Who created us and who created our creator or creators is a question beyond human understanding . Alas ,ordinary folks ,scientists ,philosophers and others have been struggling with these questions for centuries .They came up with thousands of different religions in hope to solve The creator or creators mysteries ,the social and personal issues from poverty to wars......ext. Humans with limited knowledge discovered science and went a long way . I hope science will educate people in a courageous way to live life as it is in a realistic ,normal ,and logical way without fear of any punishment when they are alive or when they leave this life . Humans can not answer all the questions of the universe in this century but no one knows about the future . With sciences ,logics ,philosophy....ext,humans might find more than they wish one day . Unfortunetely not in our time....! Thanks and keep on thinking...!.

You said what I believe better than I could say it myself!

I don't know why you would say something like that. I'm certainly not prepared to agree with that statement.

Maybe we did, and maybe we didn't. We can't answer that question with certainty.

I can see where you might think that way if you think that you are your body.

However, just about every religion believes that we are spirits simply taking the physical form of a body.

Some believe that out ‘spirit’ was created when our body was created, but for some odd reason they don’t think the spirit will die when the body dies.

Other’s believe that we’ve always been spirit, even before we had a physical body. They believe that we always were and always will be. After all, if you can believe that we continue to live in the spiritual form after our bodies die, then why could you not also believe that it can be true in the other direction? That we existed as a spirit before our bodies were born?

It makes sense to me. In fact, I tend to believe the ”spirit always existed” hypothesis more so than the idea that my spirit was created when my body was born but will someone continue on after my body dies. That doesn’t make any sense to me. That kind of implies that a physical body is necessary to give birth to a spirit. Why would that be the case?

Now, if you accept that we’ve always been spirits even before we were born, then we very well may be the spiritual creatures that created this “physical” holographic world. In fact, I’m convinced that we are the creator(s) of this apparent physical universe. It makes perfect sense to me. In fact, it makes more sense to me than to believe that I’m some kind of inferior pet to some supreme being. That seriously makes much less sense to me.

The idea that we’ve always been spirit is fundamental to religions that believe in reincarnation.

So when you say,…



All I can ask is,… Do you ponder philosophical notions very often?

Because this is a very popular philosophical notion. It’s generically referred to as Pantheism.

I'm not ignoring you. I keep putting out what I think are clear answers but I go about my answerers in a round about way. In this case I was using a joke (making up a funny story about previous gods that kinda follows modern bible myth) to make the point that if you say everything needs a maker and thats why God exists well then something then had to made your God.

In the other thread I was being all serious in this one I just ran through to make a quick joke.

Peace to you

if you believe there's a God then you must also believe that God has parents if you don't believe that God had parents because you believe that God "always was" then you must believe in spontaneous generation but if you don't believe in spontaneous generation then how can one then believe that God "always was"

Abracadabra takes his thinking from religions and people's beliefs with no scientific evidence and no proof whatsoever . Talking about souls.....ext is no science and a pure imagination . In the past ,dreams were called prophecies.....hahahaha...!. Today we are pushed to believe in spirits and life after death.....plus heaven and hell . Wow ! as if someone was there already and saw it all !.....?. We need proof and logics and not speeches and anacdotes . Religions started in ages of misery ,corruption ,lack of laws....ext ,and who wants to go back there?........not I ,thanks . Sciences and philosophy helped humanity very much and going in this direction is positive . Religions (there are thousands of them and not just hundreds ) created much division ,pain...ext to the point where ignoring it is the best medicine to its headaches . We should search the globe based on sciences ,proof ,logics ,evidence ,far away from the contradictions of religions and beliefs .Thanks for your feed back .

The idea of "parents" came only in the worlds of duality that we know. The splitting of bodies into two different sexes only happens on certain levels of reality.

I don't mean to say that we are sexless. We are both sexes. Even our bodies are both sexes to a certain degree. Many babies born today are being born with both sexual organs. Some of them have been changed to one sex or another after birth.

God does not need parents. I think God began as nothing but pure energy or awareness. A speck of energy that popped into the void from some other existence. From that, given the span of a thing called infinity, all manner of things came into being simply by the movement of some kind of unknown energy or thought.

I think we think of God as always existing because there is no way we can imagine the existence of nothing.

It is impossible for "nothing" to exist.

So whatever is left, is something. That something evolved into God.

JB

For a pantheist, I don't think we can agree on this. If God created or manifested all that is, then we were part of that from the beginning because we are part of God. At some point when we rise to higher levels of being, and start to remember where we came from, we will remember the beginning of it all and we will understand that we do indeed create ourselves.

JB

Boy are you clueless.

Try talking about someone you actually know something about.

He's new here... he hasn't met the preachers yet.. LOL

There's plenty of scientific proof out there that provides evidence of reincarnation. If you have an open mind about it.

two sexes is only one process of birth there is also binary fission which means one can split into two ..God could have been that number two but that "number one" was the parent



that process would describe angels which are supposely born as hermaphodites



but doesn't that describes parents unless God popped out of nothingness which means even that nothingness would have been used to give birth



which means that something spawn out God ...and should be considered as being the parent or parents

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1136/jewish/Something-from-Nothing.htm

An interesting read.