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I am very proud and happy that I can feel emotions and have beliefs. It makes me human. It makes me open minded and able to think outside the box "yellowrose" in case you are confused you are a member of a collective group called Christianity and that makes you part of the box good luck to you that's Christian slang "for go to hell" |
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WELL SIMPLY SPEAKING, HE CREATED MY EX WIFE SO YES IVE GOTTA SAY GOD CREATED EVIL 
My granddad tells me I'm proof that the devil is a woman 
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I am very proud and happy that I can feel emotions and have beliefs. It makes me human. It makes me open minded and able to think outside the box "yellowrose" in case you are confused you are a member of a collective group called Christianity and that makes you part of the box good luck to you that's Christian slang "for go to hell" no. I actually mean good luck to you. At first I just thought you were a jerk. Now I understand. Yes I'm a christian an I have my own beliefs and my own views on the Bible. I don't belong to a certain church...just a christian. I'm not confused at all. But ... fyi...this is a perfect example of twisting words. Again..when I say something, take it for what I say and not what you twist it into for agruements |
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THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY I THINK ORGANIZED RELIGION BLOWS!
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WE ARE ALL SPOSED TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER BUT SUNDAY MORNING IS THE MOST SEGREGATED DAY OF THE WEEK. WE WERE ,AS HUMANS, GIVEN FREE WILL. NOW I TRY MY BEST TO DO GODS WILL BUT I TEND TO FALL SHORT MORE OFTEN THEN NOT. WE ARE ALL USING FREE WILL EXPRESSING OUR OPINIONS ABOUT GOOD AND EVIL. ONLY GOD KNOWS WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG, AND IN THE BIG PICTURE IS IT REALLY ALL THAT DAMN IMPORTANT??? 
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Are you suggesting that you believe in individual spirits? Perhaps, that each remains complete, in and of itself, throughout different lifetimes and/or lifeforms?
Yes. I call them individuals. (not necessarily spirits) They are individual thinking centers of awareness taking many forms. The form they take depends upon them and the world they are experiencing. I call them the Higher selves. The higher self comes to this galaxy to experience the earth game. It streams its energy down into the space-time environment and incarnates as humans in many different time lines and experiences many lives as human, all at once, but in many different time periods. When the game is over, it recalls all of its persons back up to its body and leaves the earth game for the next place. That is my understanding of it. JB |
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no. I actually mean good luck to you. At first I just thought you were a jerk. Now I understand. nope I am a jerk Yes I'm a christian an I have my own beliefs and my own views on the Bible. I don't belong to a certain church...just a christian. right those that don't go to church are part of that "New Age" religion ...back in Salem in those olden days if you didn't attend church you would have been labeled a herectic or burned on the stake I'm not confused at all. But ... fyi...this is a perfect example of twisting words. Again..when I say something, take it for what I say and not what you twist it into for agruements "yellowrose" you said you thought outside the box ..how is that possible when you are running with the herd by being a part of the Christian collective..your beliefs and faith requires that you stay within the belief ...now explain how that is thinking outside the box |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 03/20/08 04:54 PM
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These inherent biological body functions that you are describing are instinctual. I fail to recognize the significance of their mention. Your descriptions have left out much in between these and one's awareness of spirit('God') within...
The DNA, only just recently is being explored. Each atom in our body contains massive amounts of information and energy. The DNA contain the instructions for the body. These instructions come to us as instinct, but most of these instructions are unnoticed and undetected by our conscious awareness. Instinctual function(s) do not create the wrongful masks of ego all by themselves. Thief teaching assists. Learned wrongful behaviour does also. Learned wrongful perception does also. The wrongful notion of individuality does also. Competition does also. Internalized falseness does also. Separate. Ego. All of which create the incorruptable wordly fingerprint which robs one from themself.
The ego is necessary in order to live independent lives on the earth world. Individuality is still retained by the higher selves although all of the persons who lived lives on the earth share their experiences as one when they return to the higher self. They are all part, different aspects of that self, and they are all one being. That one being is also connected to a higher being. All beings are connected as one eventually, but individuality is a choice. They can act as one or they can act as individuals when they so choose. JB
Correction: From what I understand there are a limited number of higher selves playing the earth game and they each have about 1500 earth incarnations. Not all humans are the same higher self. |
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funches....who are you to tell me who I am??? I am a christian but I have my own thoughts...like many other christian...like many other religions.
I am not in a box because there are part of the bible that are up for interpretaion. I'm not in a box because I can respect and appreciate others beliefs. Again...I now understand why you don't get it. You are nothing more than a robot. Don't you DARE try to label me or tell me who I am. |
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THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY I THINK ORGANIZED RELIGION BLOWS! IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WE ARE ALL SPOSED TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER BUT SUNDAY MORNING IS THE MOST SEGREGATED DAY OF THE WEEK. WE WERE ,AS HUMANS, GIVEN FREE WILL. NOW I TRY MY BEST TO DO GODS WILL BUT I TEND TO FALL SHORT MORE OFTEN THEN NOT. WE ARE ALL USING FREE WILL EXPRESSING OUR OPINIONS ABOUT GOOD AND EVIL. ONLY GOD KNOWS WHO IS RIGHT OR WRONG, AND IN THE BIG PICTURE IS IT REALLY ALL THAT DAMN IMPORTANT???
Nope. It is not that important.  Have faith in that.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 03/20/08 05:03 PM
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The individual (soul, spirit or higher self) incarnates into the earth body, which is a biological machine, already equipped with all the information and parts it needs to survive. The underlined last portion of this statement is quite simply not true Jeannie... humans are born with a desperate need to be nurtured into self-sufficiency... we are not born survivors. Everything you learn is after birth Jeannie. Not everything. Babies are born with the instinct to find their mothers breast, so are young calves. They are born with a fear of falling. They are born with the faculty to learn things.. Some animals are born almost completely Dependant upon their parents, others slither away and start catching food the day they are born. But most run on instinct from the day they are born. They also learn things. Birds know things like how to build nests, young know instinctively how to keep quiet and hide from predators. |
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So then, are you saying that before I existed in this human form my spirit agreed to accept all of my internalizations based upon the teachings that had not even happened yet? huh
Before you came to the earth game, you danced around the universe playing one game after another. Spirit loves games. The earth game is one that will transform you. You have to be very very brave and bold to agree to come here. There are many things to do and learn here. You agreed to the terms, that you would incarnate as human and you would live many lives of births and deaths but that you would forfeit you memory life after life. You agreed to the confines of time and space and all that comes with the earth game. Think of it as fantasy island. You can incarnate as anyone and do anything you want. Your true self remained outside of time and you reached down and gave life to a body and you lived that life, thinking that was all you were. But you are much more. All of your problems and "internalizations" are of the mental plain and or of the mind. The mind exists for the purpose of keeping order and creating time and space environments for thinking centers (individuals) who come to experience these worlds. That is the way I view it. |
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Jeannie,
I believe that it is the separate notion and all of it's extrapolations thereafter that troubles me with what you describe... If it feels good for you... then it is ok by me...
Peace... |
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Jeannie, I believe that it is the separate notion and all of it's extrapolations thereafter that troubles me with what you describe... If it feels good for you... then it is ok by me...
Peace... I am not sure what it is that troubles you. What I am saying is this. We are all connected as one ~~ but we are not "assimilated" (as the borg on star trec) into one thinking being after we die, becoming slaves. The universe is much more complicated and interesting than that. The universe is limitless and there are many things to do, see and create. To me, it is a wondrous thing. |
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funches....who are you to tell me who I am??? I am a christian but I have my own thoughts...like many other christian...like many other religions. I only said that you were a "New Age" Christian because you said you didn't belong to a church I am not in a box because there are part of the bible that are up for interpretaion. no that means you wish to pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to follow because you don't have faith in all of the bible...like I said you are trying to keep the God and dump the religion ..the term is called "New Age" Christian I'm not in a box because I can respect and appreciate others beliefs. that's called living in a society ..it lessen the friction between you and others..so that's not thinking outside the box you simply conformed to society to exist as part of the box Again...I now understand why you don't get it. You are nothing more than a robot. a robot?..I'm rather be referred to as a cybernetic organism thank you very much Don't you DARE try to label me or tell me who I am. ok "yellowrose" I won't label you as a Christian |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 03/20/08 05:34 PM
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As our minds create our dreams which contain people and things, and mountains and streams, so does the the universal mind create this world, filling it with life and thinking things.
JB |
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funches...you argue just to hear yourself. I am not going to try to debate with you...I't splain to see you just want to fight
again...good luck (and I mean good luck) |
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The notion of true individuality...
More than one... Not one... Permanent spiritual individuality... More than one... Not one... One source for all must be, by nature, indivisible... Not separate... Where does the line between nothing and something lay? There is none... All is one... |
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funches...you argue just to hear yourself. ..er..you mean just to hear myself typing don't you I am not going to try to debate with you... please "yellowrose" don't leave me ..please have you no mercy I't splain to see you just want to fight only so we can have make up sex again...good luck (and I mean good luck) until we meet again my Love |
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funches...you argue just to hear yourself. ..er..you mean just to hear myself typing don't you I am not going to try to debate with you... please "yellowrose" don't leave me ..please have you no mercy I't splain to see you just want to fight only so we can have make up sex again...good luck (and I mean good luck) until we meet again my Love you are a funny and charming man when you are this way...I wish you could be equally as charming when you debate |
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Where does the line between nothing and something lay?
Nothing does not exist. So there is no line.
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