Topic: 911 truth movement
mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/30/08 07:32 AM
Don't forget Obama's middle name
is Hussein, absolute proof that
he is really an extremist Muslim!

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

So why did you feel it necessary to
write that Obama went to a Muslim
school when he is clearly a Christian
and has been for a long time?

Peacekeeper101's photo
Wed 01/30/08 07:34 AM

I saw an interesting article on the net about 911 and they are speaking that the government was involved or let it happen anyone have any thoughts on this topic?


Conspiracy theories are a riot... lol. I have to say run with it, it's fun toilet reading.

yzrabbit1's photo
Wed 01/30/08 08:46 AM
I went to your Globa Warming Link and took the first name off of the list and Googled him here is the mission statment from the college where he teaches


...
Mission Statement

The Biology/Allied Health department exists as an integral part of Southern Adventist University with its mission to provide a quality Seventh-day Adventist Christian undergraduate education, emphasizing the balanced development of the spiritual, intellectual, physical, and social dimensions of men and women. Within the framework of a Christian understanding of the origin and workings of biological systems, the department seeks to provide opportunities for its academic and local communities to understand the value, process and limitations of scientific inquiry as well as to develop an awareness and understanding of the biological world and our responsibility to it. Its curricula are designed to provide students with high quality preparation for careers in the biological and biomedical professions. ...



Now out of the Billions of people in the world you are going to get people on the ridicules fringe. Find a real scientist then we can talk.

Chazster's photo
Wed 01/30/08 09:03 AM


madisonman ......


what the huh

you are laughable laugh

where do you get your ideas yawn
this brief vidoe of condi rice telling the title of a report "Bin laden set to strike inside US" blew all your dribble out of the water. and yet you wont even admit itdrinker your killing melaugh I am out for now you have a great nightdrinker

Seeing that no other information was giving you cant infer anything. For all we know that intelligence could have said that it would happen in 2 years or w/e. I like how you try to argue that the US planned it and it was a conspiracy and also how we just didn't act and it was Al Qaeda. Which is it? It can't be both so support one or the other lol. drinker

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Wed 01/30/08 12:20 PM



Bush Administration warned of Al Quaeda attack by George Tenet and Richard Clarke.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,1188902,00.html

I do not believe, however that this is 'proof'
that the Bush Administration planned 9/11.

I do think it is a huge intelligence failure on
the part of the Bush Administration.

They should have taken the warnings seriously,
but they didn't and 9/11 happened.

This was but the first of huge policy blunders
by the Bush Administration.


The second was not putting you, madisonman, Dragon lady, and smo in the FEMA Prison Camps that are still hidden by the government because now you are able to be here on a internet dating site forum spreading all this damning truth about them.

drinker


A scenario such as this would only happen if martial law was
declared in the event of another terrorist attack.

Civil liberties would be suspended such as freedom of speech
and assembly. Anyone who questioned authority would be rounded
up and jailed.

You would probably love that scenerio.

Then your opinions, which would be the same as the fascists
controlled the country, and would never be questioned.

This has already happened on a lesser scale as people who have publicly protested at events where this President has appeared have been tear-gassed and jailed for speaking out.

And why not? This administration has much to hide.

Hopefully such a fascist state will never exist in America,
where people are still free to speak their minds.


According to people like you, we are already in a fascist state...lol.

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Wed 01/30/08 12:23 PM
By the way, the fact that I am a stauch supporter of the teachings of Hayek, Sowell, Patrick Henry, Adam Smith, and Thomas Paine (and on and on of other classical liberals) must obviously mean I have severe fascist leanings...lol come on mnhiker.

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Wed 01/30/08 12:26 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Wed 01/30/08 12:27 PM
Everyone watch The Manchurian Candidate and then look at Obama. I am starting to wonder if he is getting the support of big wig Dems, especially in Congress, simply because they know they can mold him and use him to their own desires.

drinker

"By far the best presentation as a candidate, among all the candidates in both parties, is that of Barack Obama. But if he actually believes even half of the irresponsible nonsense he talks, he would be an utter disaster in the White House." - Thomas Sowell

mnhiker's photo
Wed 01/30/08 05:14 PM

By the way, the fact that I am a stauch supporter of the teachings of Hayek, Sowell, Patrick Henry, Adam Smith, and Thomas Paine (and on and on of other classical liberals) must obviously mean I have severe fascist leanings...lol come on mnhiker.


If you are such a liberal thinker why
do you defend Bush Jr. so much.

Bush Jr. and Cheney have been unmitigated
disasters for this country.

Less freedom, more debt, more fear and loathing.

Of course fundamentalist extremists and
rich people love Bush Jr. They got theirs.

no photo
Thu 01/31/08 06:56 PM
i'm soo glad that this thread is here, it's taken us awhile but we are jsut starting to wake up from the american dream that has kept us in a hypnotic sleep. 911 was an inside job and part of a global conspiracy to form a one world government..go ahead research it, They call it their "new world order" and evidence is right there on the dollars pyrimid seal.

madisonman's photo
Tue 02/05/08 07:42 PM
Willie Nelson: Twin Towers Were Imploded On 9/11

Published on Monday, February 04, 2008.





Source: TruthNews

Straight talking American icon Willie Nelson today told a national radio show that he thought the twin towers were imploded like condemned Las Vegas casino buildings, as the country music superstar controversially voiced his doubts about the official 9/11 story.
Agreeing with host Alex Jones that he questioned the official story, Nelson elaborated, "I saw those towers fall and I’ve seen an implosion in Las Vegas - there’s too much similarities between the two, and I saw a building fall that didn’t get hit by nothing," added Nelson, referring to WTC Building 7 which collapsed in the late afternoon of September 11.

"How naive are we - what do they think we’ll go for?," asked Nelson, pointing out that his doubts began on the very day of 9/11.



"I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical, I said wait a minute I just saw that last week at the casino in Las Vegas and you see these implosions all the time and the next one fell and I said hell there’s another one - and they’re trying to tell me that an airplane did it and I can’t go along with that," said Nelson.

The former Highwayman, fresh from his appearance at this past weekend’s superbowl, questioned why Afghanistan became an immediate target in the aftermath of 9/11 when the official story posited that mostly Saudi Arabians were responsible for the attack.

"When I get hit I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room and that’s kind of what we were doing," said Nelson, "We get hit over here and then next thing you know we’re jumping on everybody in the town - so (if) we got hit from Saudi Arabia, I think we’ve got some questions that need to be answered from those folks," said Nelson.

In light of his viewpoint, Nelson said that recent revelations concerning the impartiality of the 9/11 Commission and its close links with the White House did not surprise him.

"What does it take for us to realize we’re having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?" he concluded.

Nelson is not the first high-profile public figure to question 9/11. In March 2006, actor Charlie Sheen voiced his doubts and was followed last year by his father Martin Sheen.

Aside from celebrities - professors, scientists and other experts the world over have questioned the inconsistencies in the official story, and the topic was most recently even a subject of serious debate in the Japanese Parliament.

Nelson’s country music contemporaries The Dixie Chicks were savaged by the establishment when they criticized the Bush administration shortly before the invasion of Iraq. It remains to be seen whether the corporate media will dare take on Nelson for his views or whether they will just try to ignore the story as happened with Martin Sheen.

Click here to listen to the MP3 audio of the interview
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=5486

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/05/08 07:52 PM
There is documentation that certain government agencies stopped their employees from flying in May before 9/11, there are other certain things that point to our government not acting on intel. But I am not a believer in the full conspiracy theory. The buildings fell under the heat and weight of the planes. Under Bush, I could believe just about anything deceitful but I still do not believe the full conspiracy theory. I seen the movie Fahrenheit and all that. Pretty damning stuff but I still could not make the pieces fit of the full conspiracy.

mnhiker's photo
Tue 02/05/08 08:01 PM

There is documentation that certain government agencies stopped their employees from flying in May before 9/11, there are other certain things that point to our government not acting on intel. But I am not a believer in the full conspiracy theory. The buildings fell under the heat and weight of the planes. Under Bush, I could believe just about anything deceitful but I still do not believe the full conspiracy theory. I seen the movie Fahrenheit and all that. Pretty damning stuff but I still could not make the pieces fit of the full conspiracy.


I agree, Dragoness.

Even though they didn't heed the warnings which could have prevented the attack, and were clearly unprepared for
such an event, they didn't cause it.

madisonman's photo
Wed 02/06/08 01:15 PM
well working with steel my entire working life I still cannot undestand how the towers fell as they did. andI sorta agree with good old Willie:wink:

mnhiker's photo
Wed 02/06/08 05:00 PM

well working with steel my entire working life I still cannot undestand how the towers fell as they did. andI sorta agree with good old Willie:wink:


Well I've no doubt Willie
can compose a good country
tune, but that doesn't make
him a 9/11 expert. laugh

Cambolaya65's photo
Wed 02/06/08 05:08 PM
in the Twin towers they had proof that Aliens were,in fact,Jews.The jews then hired the hezbullah to find some al-qaeda? dudes to fly jets.....laugh laugh laugh laugh

mnhiker's photo
Wed 02/06/08 05:18 PM

in the Twin towers they had proof that Aliens were,in fact,Jews.The jews then hired the hezbullah to find some al-qaeda? dudes to fly jets.....laugh laugh laugh laugh


Careful, don't get smo started again! laugh

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Thu 02/07/08 04:39 PM
Ill reiterate my original post into this thread. I think it would be easy enough to eventually convince the most skeptical lay person that a plane strike could take down the towers--But for building 7, theres no way in hell anyone would ever have me believe it wasnt deliberately taken down.


madisonman's photo
Thu 02/07/08 06:55 PM
This is just a random comment about the supposed heat involved, my thinking and I have heard from many other sources is that jet fuel is basicly kerosene and when it isnt vaporised in a turbine doesnt burn all that hot and that most of the fuel was ignited at impact. My experience with steel is that it takes some time to bring it to heat in a controled environment. the twin towers was not a controled furnace environment and when you look at the photos you do not see an inferno.you see a fire fed by office furniture. I honestly do not think the fire burned long enough or hot enough to cause the whole damn thing to fall into its footprint. The reasone they call it a pancake theory is they cannot prove any of it or they would call it the pancake fact.

no photo
Thu 02/07/08 07:26 PM
We've had wrecks on the highway near my house where just one car exploded and I thought my whole house was going to fall down. 10 years later I have foundatiion cracks and I am convinced that tiny explosion caused them. THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF FUEL IN THOSE TWO PLANES. Every building for blocks moved on their foundations so its feasible to me that one so close could just fall down.

madisonman's photo
Thu 02/07/08 07:31 PM

We've had wrecks on the highway near my house where just one car exploded and I thought my whole house was going to fall down. 10 years later I have foundatiion cracks and I am convinced that tiny explosion caused them. THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF FUEL IN THOSE TWO PLANES. Every building for blocks moved on their foundations so its feasible to me that one so close could just fall down.
again if you see the footage there wasa huge fireball. Its not like they just pumped that fuel into the building. A boatload of it exploded and neighter plane was topped off to begin with. but I suppose part of me says the buildings at the verry least should have started there collapse at the weekest point that being were the planes impacted them, they just seemed to crumble as they fell at near free fall speed into there own basements. and a gain looking at the footage you dont see a huge inferno,its late for me but thanks for your comments