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Topic: TODAY IN TRUMPLAND. PART 2.
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Sat 02/02/19 01:02 AM
Trump: Pelosi doing a 'tremendous disservice' to the country by not funding border wall

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5997386413001/#sp=show-clips

I haven't heard anything from Trump on why he waited for two years until Democrats took the house and then started this fight over the border wall. In those two years, Trump and the GOP never made a move toward funding the wall even though it was pretty well known ahead of time that Democrats would win the house. Even after the election, Republicans did nothing about wall funding. The truth is Republicans really don't want to fund the wall either. Another truth is that the huge tax cut for billionaires was a much higher priority than the border wall for the GOP. So much for a national emergency.

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Sat 02/02/19 05:16 PM
Trump's 'America first' policy to key in on foreign shores


"WASHINGTON (AP) — For all of President Donald Trump's talk about "America first," the next two years of his presidency could shine a sharp spotlight on America abroad".

http://www.apnews.com/72008d8d52774fd3a1f6910c6333d120

Trump describes the presidency as “one of the greatest losers of all time”

http://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/trump-describes-the-presidency-as-one-of-the-greatest-losers-of-all-time-1436184643588

I thought Trump was supposed to be totally disconnected from his business. So how does he know whether his presidency is causing him to gain or lose money? And why is he even thinking in such terms? He can get back to the Trump Organization in 2021. Meanwhile, it's none of our (and therefore his) business.


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Sat 02/02/19 07:52 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sat 02/02/19 07:53 PM
Russia Is Attacking the U.S. System From Within

"A new court filing submitted on Wednesday by Special Counsel Robert Mueller revealed that a Russian troll farm currently locked in a legal battle over its alleged interference in the 2016 election appeared to wage yet another disinformation campaign late last year—this time targeting Mueller himself.




http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/new-mueller-filing-shows-how-russia-misuses-us-courts/581884/?utm_medium=offsite&utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=yahoo-non-hosted&yptr=yahoo

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Sun 02/03/19 02:10 PM
Rep. Ted Lieu: Nancy Pelosi is a badass because we're getting real border security not a stupid wall

"Nancy Pelosi is leading Democrats to big wins over Donald Trump in the area of border security. Rep. Ted Lieu joins Joy Reid to discuss Donald Trump not getting the funding for his border wall".

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/embedded-video/mmvo1436486211738

Capitol Hill negotiators are hopeful of an agreement as they officially kick off talks on a homeland security spending bill stalled over funding for President Donald Trump's proposed border wall.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wall-must-part-175324089.html

We all know there will be no wall as part of any deal, period. He lost that fight before the shutdown even started. Maybe he will fabricate a national emergency to steal funds needed by our military, but to think he will get a deal with a wall is a fantasy. Frankly, I am tired of hearing about the wall. But, at least if he is focused on this wall thing, he isn't off doing things that could actually hurt us all.

Trump says talks on wall a ‘waste of time’


"WASHINGTON- US President Donald Trump said talks with lawmakers on building his proposed Mexico border wall are pointless and suggested he will declare a national emergency to get it done".


http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/01/19/trump-says-talks-on-wall-a-waste-of-time


If Trump is allowed to declare a state of emergency to build his wall then this opens the door for him and future presidents to do the same any time they don't get their way. For example, imagine a president declaring gun violence a national emergency and confiscating all guns?


I finally agree with Donald Trump.....the talks are a waste of time because he claimed thousands of times that "Mexico would pay for the wall" and his supporters chanted it back to him.....So, he should be talking with Mexico getting them to pay for it instead of Congress or he will break his major campaign promise which we all know was a lie.






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Sun 02/03/19 02:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/03/19 02:31 PM
It will be interesting to see the data backing up that the border constitutes a national emergency. As I said before, when numbers show that the 'problem' has been some of the lowest numbers in the past half century, saying it is suddenly an 'emergency' with a straight face or a logical conclusion is beyond laughable. But then, like he said, he could murder someone, and followers would cheer with what seemed in their minds like justification.

On the flip side, I hope the numbers will be available that show the ACTUAL impact and cost of a wall as well as the crossings that happen in the areas the wall is being proposed.




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Sun 02/03/19 09:26 PM
Edited by tombraider on Sun 02/03/19 09:32 PM


First of all lets get one thing straight here..Nancy Pelosi is not a democrat..she is a GLOBALIST (I gave proof of this) she is using the democratic party and the democratic supporters to go after Trump in order to obtain her Globalist BS agenda..all one has to do is go to YouTube and DO THE RESEARCH..it shows her signing on to agenda 21..something else one needs to do the research on..

Not to mention we are currently under 30 different state of emergencies..the oldest dating back as far as 1979 under the Carter administration..and when you look at the reasons for some of these ..we can surely add another due to the fact we have masses of people from who knows where with who knows what trying to obtain ILLEGAL entry into the U.S..not to mention with the uprising in Venezuela even more reason to BUILD THE DAMN WALL

... DO THE RESEARCH


GOT MEASLES..what's next

any more Horace quotes?..bring it

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Sun 02/03/19 09:50 PM
I love when people invite me to look up proof of THEIR CLAIMS ...lol

but research is something I actually enjoy ... so here it is:

Here's a list of the 28 active national emergencies:
1. Blocking Iranian Government Property (Nov. 14, 1979)
2. Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (Nov. 14, 1994)
3. Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process (Jan. 23, 1995)
4. Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources (Mar. 15, 1995)
5. Blocking Assets and Prohibiting Transactions with Significant Narcotics Traffickers (Oct. 21, 1995)
6. Regulations of the Anchorage and Movement of Vessels with Respect to Cuba (Mar. 1, 1996)
7. Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan (Nov. 3, 1997)
8. Blocking Property of Persons Who Threaten International Stabilization Efforts in the Western Balkans (Jun. 26, 2001)
9. Continuation of Export Control Regulations (Aug. 17, 2001)
10. Declaration of National Emergency by Reason of Certain Terrorist Attacks (Sept. 14, 2001)
11. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Persons who Commit, Threaten to Commit, or Support Terrorism (Sept. 23, 2001)
12. Blocking Property of Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe (Mar. 6, 2003)
13. Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq has an Interest (May 22, 2003)
14. Blocking Property of Certain Persons and Prohibiting the Export of Certain Goods to Syria (May 11, 2004)
15. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus (Jun. 16, 2006)
16. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (Oct. 27, 2006)
17. Blocking Property of Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of Lebanon or Its Democratic Processes and Institutions (Aug. 1, 2007)
18. Continuing Certain Restrictions with Respect to North Korea and North Korean Nationals (Jun. 26, 2008)
19. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia (Apr. 12, 2010)
20. Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya (Feb. 25, 2011)
21. Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations (Jul. 25, 2011)
22. Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen (May 16, 2012)
23. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine (Mar. 6, 2014)
24. Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan (Apr. 3, 2014)
25. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic (May 12, 2014)
26. Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela (Mar. 9, 2015)
27. Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities (Apr. 1, 2015)
28. Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi (Nov. 23, 2015)



so, the SIMILARITY seems to be none are demanding funds from taxes. All seem to be merely regulating what can come in or out of the country.


as to 'masses of people', The graph above demonstrates how over exaggerated the claim is RELATIVE to what has been 'normal' for the past few decades.



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Sun 02/03/19 10:09 PM
Edited by tombraider on Sun 02/03/19 10:19 PM


Them maybe you should go stand at the border and say that..as far as tax payers dollars maybe it's time that the people have the right as to how to spend it and build up our defenses or we could do what the Dems do and piss it away on vacations like Pelosi or send plane loads of it like Obama did..to countries who want to destroy us..and since you like doing research..its what I do ALL day..every day..So you must have seen where Pelosi signed on to agenda 21..and you must've seen what the results of agenda 21 are..DO you agree with the globalists view?..and open borders?

So you see if we can issue state of emergencies for other countries we sure can issue them to help protect the citizens of ours..

Noticed we're not using SNOPES ..why is that?..Truth is they are no different than any other site..I wonder who fact checks the fact checkers..but I can definitely direct people to see for their own eyes what Pelosi is up to..But she shouldn't be around much longer..one can only hope..I believe the reason Trump wanted her as speaker is because so people can see her spasming butt stutter over her words and see what she is really about..a traitor and an crook..People really need to read up on agenda 21



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Sun 02/03/19 10:13 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/03/19 10:17 PM



Them maybe you should go stand at the border and say that..as far as tax payers dollars maybe it's time that the people have the right as to how to spend it and build up our defenses or we could odo aht the Dems do and piss it awy on vacations like Pelosi or send plane loads of it like Obama did..to countries who want to destroy us..and since you like ding research..its what I do ALL day..every day..So you must have seen where Pelossi signed on to agenda 21..and you must've seen what the results of agenda 21 are..DO you agree with the globalists view?..and open borders?

So you see if we can issue state of emergencies for other countries we sure can issue them to help protect the citizens of ours..

Noticed we're not using SNOPES ..why is that?





I did stand at the border, during the years when crossings were MUCH HIGHER even ...lol.

I notice WE are not using anything, no links whatsoever. Just advice to get information from a source even my 11 year old could post to without it having to have a lick of truth.

But I am trying to provide links to the things I claim from sources that are much less of a 'free for all' wealth of anonymous users and their anonymous claims.


for anyone just reading who may be interested in the mysterious ominous life ending Agenda 21

here is a link to that as well

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

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Sun 02/03/19 10:22 PM


I've already viewed that link..that's why I directed people to view agenda 21..my anonymous source as you put it is Pelosi standing up for agenda 21..where they can see it for their own eyes and not some random fact check site..that are just words that anyone could write to back their bias views

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Sun 02/03/19 10:25 PM



I've already viewed that link..that's why I directed people to view agenda 21..my anonymous source as you put it is Pelosi standing up for agenda 21..where they can see it for their own eyes and not some random fact check site..that are just words that anyone could write to back their bias views


yes. The link is the actual DOCUMENT. I dont think 'standing' up for it is the SCANDAL its being made out to be. But others can also read FOR THEMSELF and decide.

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Sun 02/03/19 10:27 PM
Edited by tombraider on Sun 02/03/19 10:51 PM

Agenda 21 goes against the constitution and the patriots of this country while putting unelected Deep State hooligans in control..sustainable development my butt and for who the elite..yep.Where does the UN get off trying to tell us what we should do with our country..The PEOPLES COUNTRY..they have no right..the way I view Globalists are TRAITORS..just like Obama

The SOTU is coming unless of course what RBG funeral?..who knows day after tomorrow is going to be very interesting indeed..I hope Trump sticks it to them..as much as the Dems don't like it all the better..after all they would have elected traitor Hillary..another one hopefully who will be gone..They should publicly hang that witch for treason..


nothing wrong with agenda 21 if one wants global domination by unelected leaders..sounds wonderful..If you're Hitler!


In my opinion any elected official who signed up for the UN Migration Pact should be tried for assisting every crime that was committed on their citizens by all the immigrants they allowed into their country..the immigration pact was just a way of the UN gettinga foot hold in overthrowing these countries..and the leaders who signed up for it should be put on trial for that as well..There is no debate here..because anyone who agrees with the UN migration pact is not a patriot to their country ..Oh yea that's right they're just all unvetted good people..and they know this how..if they don't know who they are..spock

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Sun 02/03/19 10:56 PM
whoa yeah, okay.

wanting sustainability is unpatriotic. Is wanting peace also an unpatriotic goal? is wanting a clean environment also an unpatriotic goal?

I think people confuse nationalist (concerned only with ones own nation) with patriotic (having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country.)


Its kind of like claiming its disloyal to your family to care about what is happening with other families TOO.


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Mon 02/04/19 07:24 AM
most of the posts on here are idle LeNGTHY prattle.
no one reads long posts. I agree with tombraider and I say

Be realistic and "BUILD THAT WALL"

I have the right to remain silent but I don't have the ability.

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Mon 02/04/19 07:58 AM
Trump should go forward in building the wall.

Socialism destroyes a Country, that is what Leftist leadership will do.
Look at Brazil and other Countries.

Wake up Liftist you're in ignorance like Nancy Pelosi .

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Mon 02/04/19 10:14 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 02/04/19 10:15 AM

Most Americans don't support building the wall


"But CBS News polling from mid-November found that a majority -- 59 percent of Americans -- oppose building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. It's a partisan issue, though. A large majority of Republicans support the wall -- 79 percent. A majority of independents -- 66 percent -- oppose the wall, and 84 percent of Democrats are also against it".

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-americans-dont-support-building-the-wall/

Poll: Majorities oppose Trump's wall funding demand, call for compromise

"The survey found that 56 percent of respondents do not support the president’s proposal to construct a wall along the southern border, compared to 44 percent who do.

Erecting a broad security barrier along the border is only slightly more popular, according to the poll. Only 46 percent of respondents support that proposal, while 54 percent oppose it".

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423099-poll-majorities-oppose-trumps-wall-funding-demand-call-for-compromise

69% of Americans Don’t Think Trump's Border Wall Is a Priority, Poll Says


"Only 28% of those polled answered that the border wall should be an immediate priority, while 19% replied it shouldn’t be an immediate priority, and 50% said it shouldn’t be a priority at all".

http://fortune.com/2018/12/12/trump-border-wall-poll/


It ain't gonna happen. Trump and his brain dead minions may as well accept it. If it does happen it will be on a much lower scale. Americans don't want to pay for this wall. And the Democrats know it. Simply put, that's why they are fighting against it. It has nothing to do with all that conspiracy bullshyt that many like to spew. The Democrats are listening to what the great majority of people are saying. The majority says WE DO NOT WANT THIS WALL! WE DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THIS INEFFECTIVE WALL!

That's the will of the majority. Whether the far right likes it or not.


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Mon 02/04/19 10:30 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 02/04/19 10:34 AM
Reading can seriously damage ignorance ...



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Mon 02/04/19 12:14 PM
Edited by tombraider on Mon 02/04/19 12:18 PM


If they wanted a clean environment they would quit spraying the skies with chemtrails..oh yea..that's not happening..Peace is a great thing..but not when women and children are RAPED to obtain it..but that too is o.k..let's just consider that as collateral damage as we make the transition.. to utopia..and what's a little brain washing dumb down common core curriculum..while owning nothing and equally distributing wealth..while opening the border to unvetted illegals..and obtaining global domination by unelected officials..yea ..sounds great sign me up..NOT..

Perhaps one should go talk to these women or children who have been raped or whose children or family members were murdered by these unvetted illegals allowed into their country through the UN Migration Pact and explain to them how it was done for the GREATER GOOD.. noway And don't even get me started on the Depopulation agenda..that's another one of their BRILLIANT ideas..noway wonder what they would think if we started that agenda with them and their families..NOW that is a BRILLIANT idea..smile2

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Mon 02/04/19 12:30 PM
http://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180711_final_draft_0.pdf


National sovereignty: The Global Compact reaffirms the sovereign right of States to determine their national migration policy and their prerogative to govern migration within their jurisdiction,in conformity with international law.

Within their sovereign jurisdiction, States may distinguish between regular and irregular migration status, including as they determine their legislative and policy measures for the implementation of the Global Compact, taking into account different
national realities, policies, priorities and requirements for entry, residence and work, in accordance with international law.


I did control V and found nothing about migrants being 'unvetted' ... but ,,, what does whats actually there have to do with what people read into it?

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Mon 02/04/19 01:19 PM

The UN says it's not legally binding ..we say NO..end of story..and yet they are still trying to push this globalist ideology down our throats..NO..Now they are going to say what..that if you speak out against it, it will be labeled as hate speech ..as opposed to what a difference of opinion..The answer is NO..end of story..if they don't like it who cares..As far as paying for the border wall and not wanting to pay for it..of we don't we will be paying for it in different ways and the cost will be far greater..and I've already shown that..and we haven't even gotten started..Some people in the UN are clearly DELUSIONAL

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