When you love someone are you friends with them?

Not necessarily
My ex for 9 years was Chinese.. We never had even communication but I loved her.. Beside she is my only daughter's mom

Amen to that and I suppose anyone who says " at my age" for an excuse are either fugly or too much of a douche to get some.

Friend-zoned to me means something different than friends. Friend-zoned means you're not considered relationship material (anymore) by the person who put you in the friend-zone.
Friends is just friends.
Someone who got friend-zoned doesn't really have to become a friend even. You're nice to them, not necessarily wanting them in your close friend circle, orbiting on the outside maybe, if that. Don't 'friend-zoned' people just fade from your view and life at some point?

Maybe that's just me. I don't do friends anyways with exes or ex potential-partners. I have a clear divide between what a friend is and an ex. The two don't mix. It's either-or.
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Not a great basis for a relationship, in my opinion. But whatever floats your boat.

I totally agree. ...declare your intent or buzz off

Once again I say that there should be no hard line between friends and lovers, and that the difference is based purely in sexual attraction. I become friends with the woman I am with because I want to invest the time to get to know her has as a person not a potential f@*k partner. If that happens so be it.

Yeah that's what clingers say .

It's amazing how truly wrong someone can be.

No...there's some people I find sexy as *hell*...but I wouldn't want a relationship with them , for any number of reasons..therefore..they just stay friends.

There is little that is absolute in this world except death. There are other factors of course and examples in my own life that would go against what I said. There have been wives or lady friends of friends that I considered to be friends. There was flirtation and sexual innuendo, but we never became lovers because it's not cool in my book.

I meant by and large. There are often outliers.

Heaven forbids if anyone is right besides you !!!!

hello dear

Hell, I'm wrong multiple times every day and when I am I'll gladly admit it. This is about you passing off your point of view and your beliefs as facts. It's about you making silly assumptions about someone you don't know. It's about you being condescending for absolutely no reason. Get it?

Hi schmoopie.

A lot of guys say, let's just be friends... and "see where it leads."

They are most likely using the term friends as a means to see if they can pry your legs open. They likely do not really want to be friends. If someone genuinely is interested in friendship with you they will not care where it leads. It's pretty simple.

Hmm... I find your 'categories' somewhat odd? You have 'friends' which you consider the same as "friend-zoned" (I do NOT, totally different to me), and you have 'f*(ck buddies'.
So if someone isn't a friend they're a f*(k buddy?

I don't do f*(k buddies, nor friends with men for that matter.
If I go out with a man I want to get to know him, not to become friends, I don't need to be friends with a man. And if I want a f*(k buddy, I don't go out with the man either. That would kind of exceeds the purpose of a f*(k buddy

I date. And if it don't work out the man could get friend-zoned, not meaning he's going to now become a friend of mine. Just that the interest in him as a potential partner has gone. So he ends up on the list of people I know but seldom get in touch with anymore.
And yes, I suppose that is usually based on lack of chemistry & attraction.

What I'm trying to say is that if a man loves women he will treat them as friends. Isn't that what we do when we love people? Sex is either part of it or not. It happens or not. It doesn't change the fact that if a man loves WOMEN, not simply wants a woman, he will try to support them, make them happy, and stick up for them. That's what friendship should be, yes? The sexual attraction part is what drives whether or not the friendship will wind up in bed.

I understand that this is not the way the world normally works. Normally people see someone they want and try to make them into something that fits their needs and desires. Friendship doesn't really factor in.

Everybody is different..
I have several male friends..and I prefer men as friends over women..

To each their own.