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Adam and Eve ate the fruit of "the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil". Before they ate the fruit, they were innocent. They didn't know what was good and what was bad. They didn't feel shame or guilt.
John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. With awareness of wrong doing, comes guilt for your actions. If you know what you are doing is wrong, then you are sinning. But a little baby who crys when it's not hungry, just to get attention, that child is innocent. The baby doesn't know that lying is wrong, it is simply trying to get attention. |
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Adam and Eve ate the fruit of "the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil". Before they ate the fruit, they were innocent. They didn't know what was good and what was bad. They didn't feel shame or guilt. John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. With awareness of wrong doing, comes guilt for your actions. If you know what you are doing is wrong, then you are sinning. But a little baby who crys when it's not hungry, just to get attention, that child is innocent. The baby doesn't know that lying is wrong, it is simply trying to get attention. The above just says that Blind people are sinless. Jesus is not the only sinless being. |
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Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy.
Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. |
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Edited by
feralcatlady
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Fri 01/04/08 01:48 PM
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I don't have to I can see what the Bible says and I understand Psalm 14:2-3 (King James Version) 2The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. But that is not what it means. It refers to man not babies....and giving up the old sinful ways to the new ways... Psalms 14:2-3 refers to the characteristics of the Godless....But then if you keep going and read Psalms 15:1-5.....this is referring to the characteristics of the Godly.....You can't take scripture rabbit and just make it fit how you see it....you have to take it as a whole....look at the scripture as a whole.....if you read something at least read what is before and after or you will never understand the intension of it. So now read it again....The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds There is no one who does good. The Lord has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men....(men who ignored God, Men who wanted it there way, sons who felt the same.....Because unless they change then generation after generation will pay in God's eyes) sound familiar..... |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Fri 01/04/08 02:02 PM
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Because you bring people beyond the frustration level....And even the best Christian is still human rabbit...When they tell you things over and over and over and over and you still don't or more then likely wont get it.....you bring them to the brink......and honestly its just my opinion and you would have to ask Eljay hy he called you a troll....I know with you and funches and abra and redy I have had to leave, and pray and scream and even stomp and ask the Lord above for forgiveness for my thoughts.....giggle....but I still love you all.....you can just get frustrating. yes, i agree debbie.... yz rabbit ... you have made false accusations and have attacked my integrity and intelligence twice that i know of since i have made comments here 
and you have gotten others so upset at you ~ 
that they have had to restrain themselves from wanting to knock your block off with your arrogance ... and why we have all given you so much energy is truly beyond me !... i am a very fiery lady protective and very proud 
i was born & raised in America 
of strong Italian Sicilian heritage 
i have family and friends
who have served & given their lives 
in wars for my freedom & for my family
and for you and your family
and for everyone out there .
& i try to daily exercise the rights
that have been so courageously
and so lovingly and tenderly won for me ~
i am an accomplished Mountain Lioness
of a woman ~ mother ~& grandmother
a fierce tigress of righteousness
you are very fortunate
that i am also a true lady
you couldn't even begin to comprehend what i would say to you anyway
plus there are rules i didn't make up 
that need to be followed on these forums ~
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...If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Matthew 17:20 Kat |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Fri 01/04/08 01:57 PM
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Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy. Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. Two verses down. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Once death entered the world, all things in this universe must die, including the sinless. |
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Repunzel Said
you have made false accusations and have attacked my integrity and intelligence twice that i know of since i have made comments here indifferent I respond Point out my false accusations. Show them to me. Or me atacking your integrity? |
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Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy. Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. |
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Okay...I can quote myself too.
Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy. Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. Two verses down. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Once death entered the world, all things in this universe must die, including the sinless. |
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Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy. Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. Two verse down. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Once death entered the world, all things in this universe must die, including the sinless. Still says everyone sinned so there is no such thing as sinless. |
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Ok here is one you cannot get around. The only way to die is through sin. So since babies die that means it is due to sin. Clear simple easy. Romans 5:12 (New International Reader's Version) 12 Sin entered the world because one man sinned. And death came because of sin. Everyone sinned, so death came to all people. Two verse down. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Once death entered the world, all things in this universe must die, including the sinless. Still says everyone sinned so there is no such thing as sinless. Read it again...I bolded the part you missed. |
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Remember also that their was no death until sin entered the picture......
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The Bible is full of contradictions I can agree on that. Let me ask you all this then. Since Babies are Born Sinless, the ones that died at birth lived a completely sinless life on earth. That would mean that there were millions of sinless humans. Jesus claim to be sinless is not to amazing. is that what you are saying? |
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The Bible is full of contradictions I can agree on that. Let me ask you all this then. Since Babies are Born Sinless, the ones that died at birth lived a completely sinless life on earth. That would mean that there were millions of sinless humans. Jesus claim to be sinless is not to amazing. is that what you are saying? Children commit sins, I already said that. They aren't held accountable, because they don't understand that they are sinning. They are not aware that their actions are wrong. Jesus didn't sin once in his life. There is a difference. |
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The Bible is full of contradictions I can agree on that. Let me ask you all this then. Since Babies are Born Sinless, the ones that died at birth lived a completely sinless life on earth. That would mean that there were millions of sinless humans. Jesus claim to be sinless is not to amazing. is that what you are saying? Children commit sins, I already said that. They aren't held accountable, because they don't understand that they are sinning. They are not aware that their actions are wrong. Jesus didn't sin once in his life. There is a difference. Ok back to my original premise. Christians think babies are sinners? Yes or No I do not think they are sinners I think they are beautiful wonderful sin free babies. |
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Remember also that their was no death until sin entered the picture...... This is my point only sinners can die that is why babies die cause they are sinners. (according to Christianity) |
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Edited by
feralcatlady
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Fri 01/04/08 02:21 PM
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Did you not read what I wrote.....Lil babies until they know right from wrong are sinless....But then when they reach the age where they understand then yes they can sin....Now say you have a Father and a Mother who are both atheists.....and they raise their children as such......Do you think that in God's eye they are sinners? And say you have a family that goes back 5 generations and all are atheists...How do you think God will feel about all those generations of family?
Then you have one gal in this family....Who gives her life to Christ......and she has children....who then have children and so on and so on....What do you think God does in this case? |
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Im not talking about what I think Im showing what the Bible says and what Christianity says. So here is my question are babies sinless? If Babies are sinless then Jesus being sinless is not unique. |
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of course it is....Jesus until his death at 33 was sinless....no one could say this on the planet....no one.....and babies are just that babies.....that grow up.......and learn right from wrong and still wrong....even at very young ages......so not the same.....gonna have to give you a time out soon rabbit......this again has all been said at least 100 times in at least that many ways....what are you not getting exactly.
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