and when did MSharmony post anything negative about the military? ...

Your question is imprecise, you are asking why it is "the Man's fault" that consumer debt is high?

There are a LOT of people who made money on the recession. Hedge fund managers, Goldman Sachs, Merril Lynch, Citibank, GM, and the taxpayer money they basically stole through lack of fiduciary responsibility DWARFS the profits you made.
If a junkie destroys his life by buying and using drugs, he is looked down upon. But when corporations destroy shareholder equity through similar "bad choices", it is OK. (Under Democratic rule, some folks like Kozlowski and Ebbers went to jail for it... under Republican rule, the heads of Citibank and GM, Merril, Goldman, no one went to jail). Heck, I might be mistaken, but this is the first president we have had who has bankrupted three entities (and might be the first one to bankrupt a country)

I have not seen the figures on consumer debt, but what the hay, "if the president can go bankrupt and screw his debtors, why shouldn't I be able to?"

Every investor is taking a risk. It's the price people pay for making money sitting on their butt.

This may explain the different adminstrations inability along with DOJ insight plus numerous court rulings over the yrs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/magazine/only-one-top-banker-jail-financial-crisis.html

No??.. you have never seen a t.v commercial for the Army.. Navy.. Marines, ect.. really? You really expect people to believe that? Never seen a billboard for one of the armed services with contact info.. really?

And the people you speak of have absolutely no access to any form of information? such as th internet and T.V. none what so ever.. nothing.. Really?? You do know we are not talking about that one family in the cabin ( the banjo players family) in the movie " the deliverance", right, we are talking about everyone else

I have no idea how you think they own your life?, you serve.. as millions have done.. they you are .. done. Can you get killed.. yes you can.. its called.. war. And guess what, without it we might still be answering to the British.

And by your mindset, after we were attacked on 911 we should have just done.. what?.. asked them not to do it again.. please?. Same for Pearl Harbor?. Certainly in your mindset we can't go to war.. we may be killed.

And you have relatives in the service?.. That is nice, clearly the fact that there are in mean they do not agree with your mindset on the military.. does it. So, throwing that in there means.. nothing.

You state that you do not agree with fighting for a government, does that include democratic lead governments too or just republican ones?

And lastly... again, no one said it was the only option... just one option. Your relatives thought it a good option... right?

an overly simplistic response.
isn't that lazy?

No. You Hate to admit it's not "The mans" fault. Investors knew there was a risk. They knew what they signed up for.

They were all happy as long as they were making money.

HAA. let me break it down further because I know in places of privilege people cant IMAGINE that everyone does not have the same access to or use the same things they do.

I am personally not in an underserved community. yet I do not HAVE cable or watch TV. I only use internet and a streaming device on a television set. The streaming device is not streaming programming with commercials. IT is a much cheaper service than the average cable. I do not see military recruiting ads on my streaming service. I do have internet, BUT ACROSS impoverished urban areas 1 in 4 cannot afford or dont have access to broadband (https://www.recode.net/2017/6/20/15839626/disparity-between-urban-rural-internet-access-major-economies),

and even those who do would need to know or have interest in looking up and traveling to recruitment centers ...


SO that knocks out TV and internet for millions.

How do I think the military owns your life? Because I have been a military wife and have military family. You go when they tell you to go, you do what they tell you to do, you dont ask questions.

My mindset on war has nothing to do with this topic or anything Ive shared, not to mention your assumptions about it are dead wrong.

I did not state I 'dont agree' with fighting. I stated that NOT EVERYONE is military material or should feel forced to try to be.

And once again, I would love to hear other options for those in underserved communities, being that the military is not an option for everyone in underserved communities.

Well, there are investors and then there investors.... ever heard of "preferred stock"? Those are the ones paid first, when the company goes bankrupt. (Also in bankruptcy, the bankrupting party can choose which debtors get paid first... this is similar to how the lawyers in a class-action suit make tons, when the plaintiffs don't get much). Anyway, it is usually "the man" (as you so archaically call it) that gets access to the preferred shares, the rank-and-file are stuck with the common stock. There is different risk among investors.

Now, what was your point?

The govt doesnt create class and neither do corporations. To blame either is a big fat nothing temper tantrum.
The 3 tiered Prussian Educational System does that.
As you know.
How many straight A students compared the majority avg to the pct who either struggle to learn ir doesnt put forth the effort.

There was a recent court case back east that seemed to escape all media and it was to me anyway the eqyiv if being strucj by lightening.

A jydge ruled tou have no right to literacy and cant blame a school for the lack of it..

BAM!

If you have investments then there is risk.....got it?

Oh! And don't believe everything a used car salesman tells you. They aren't there to make you money. They are there to make themselves money. So the product might not be as good as it's package.

How do I think the military owns your life? Because I have been a military wife and have military family. You go when they tell you to go, you do what they tell you to do, you dont ask questions.

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??? no s**t.. and you didn't understand that when your husband joined.. he didn't understand that either???.tell me you are joking.. please. And it is different in what other military???

Would you rather you tell them where you want to go and when and for how long. Would that be a efficient military with 1.5 million service people telling the military where to send them. News flash.. its the military.. not a travel agency..

And that rule was changed ( where they tell you.. not you tell them) just as your husband got into the service?.. you were both blind sided by this news?

When my son was not deployed ( which is always a chance and you know that going in) he was home everyday after his work on the base. His home ( and 1000's of others).. was off the base. nobody owned him.. no ranking officer stopped by to chew him out or make him do things. In the morning he got dressed and went to.. work.. as a Marine.. that was his job.

Was he was called up to go to parts of the world that were not friendly. yes he was. Did his wife like it.( him being deployed) nope.. Did they move to where the Marine corps needed his particular expertise.. yes..did they like that.. not always. Did they both understand the procedures and accept them.. yes

why

Because he was in the Marines.. that's what they do. She had no rose colored glasses on.

And they hired your husband.. not you.. and you knew that going in as well. didn't you.

what the hell were you expecting.. KinderCare and tea parties. Lol

the original question was how they own your life.

question answered.

Aaah, I think I get it... and now I see how all this relates back to being lazy OP. You are actually agreeing with me.

The used car salesman you refer to is Trump, and you are saying that he didn't become president to truly make AMERICA great again, but just to make the TRUMPS in America rich again. And the "product not being as good as the package" is his leadership, and that it is not HIS ("the Man's) fault that lazy people believed his crap, he didn't make people stupid enough to actually believe his lies, he just took advantage of them being stupid. And that if they had done their due diligence they would never have believed his BS (as you say, "the package") in the first place. But in any investment, whether it be a vote or buying a share of stock, there is always a risk that one will lose everything (in the case of the country, we might lose it to China or Russia, the "preferred investors" we were talking about).

Sorry, I was having trouble following the analogy. My fault, it is not happy hour here yet, and I am much better at following barroom rambling analogies after I too have had a couple. I am heading out to the bar to watch the Patriots in a few hours, and if we continue this at 9 or so, by then I should even be able to follow the poor spelling and typos of others here on the thread.

Trump wasn't president back then.

Most people are broke because if they went into a store and all they had was a turd, they would by it.

they also knew that there was supposed to be fiduciary duty by those selling the products.

they were also trusting the ratings groups that had fiduciary and public responsibilities to accurately assess the companies but failed to do much more than take money and rubberstamp them.

Sorry MS. Your husband signed up for that and you knew the deal going in. What part of serve didn't you understand?

It hasn't changed since day one.. and they weren't going to change for you either.

this is not completely untrue.

still doesn't excuse all that other murky colored koolaid you been dranky drankin'.