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there is one woman here that likes to atack men.no matter what we say we are wrong in her eyes.who cares if we cant spell as long as people understand.im not likeing seeing her make snotty coments.so if you dont like men im sure theres a off switch on your computer.use it.... Bet I know which one you are talking about.. She brings her love of men to every site she visits.. |
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there is one woman here that likes to atack men.no matter what we say we are wrong in her eyes.who cares if we cant spell as long as people understand.im not likeing seeing her make snotty coments.so if you dont like men im sure theres a off switch on your computer.use it.... There are several women here who are lesbians and don't like men. There are several women here who don't like misogyny in men, especially while on online *dating* sites. There are several people here - men and *females* - who, regardless of their sexual preferences, don't like ignorance in others, especially on discussion boards, and especially when opinions are presented as fact. Each has a right to participate in the communities. Unless, of course, you are the new owner of M2. It is possible that you are...as you've only been here a little over a month, have now made 2 posts, and yet know a lot about this site's make-up and how others are. If you ARE the new owner of M2, you should follow your own rules and not attack others on the threads and, instead, ban them for life from your newly-acquired site. Personally, I believe you may, very well, be the new owner of this site, as your comment has remained up and active for almost 6 hours now, without a single flag to bring it to the Moderators' attention...or, it was flagged and the Mods think it's an A-OK comment, since it's only attacking a woman, and not a man. That type of thing has been happening a LOT lately, almost *like* there's a new regime or legion at the helm. |
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I just haven't felt interested any guy on here for some reason. Even of all the guys that sent me a message I rarely ever answer because I don't feel inclined to do so.
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I do send a first message .. if I'm interested
I am communicating with 2 men at the mo, one of which I sent the first message to .. because he interested me :) As for the chasing.. I have it from various sources online and in books that men need to know that you're interested in them. If you don't let them know one way or another, 95% of men out there won't initiate contact. So maybe it works the same online? Sending the first message as a woman doesn't mean there's no more chasing to be done! |
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I also dont know way, but i you send them first than i think they answered or replay back, but notting. Why we here for together?and within years that will be the same.
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I find if you have more than one who is interesting you make a change, but interesting or not pleace responce back let he know.that are respect for .
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Edited by
SpicyExcel
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Fri 12/12/14 06:39 PM
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I do send a first message .. if I'm interested I am communicating with 2 men at the mo, one of which I sent the first message to .. because he interested me :) As for the chasing.. I have it from various sources online and in books that men need to know that you're interested in them. If you don't let them know one way or another, 95% of men out there won't initiate contact. So maybe it works the same online? Sending the first message as a woman doesn't mean there's no more chasing to be done! You and a few other certainly understood what the topic of this thread is about. It is not a topic one can generalize without writing a book about, to understand the micro aspects of men and women obviously. I believe your source of info was relatively correct in men need to know a woman has interest. That is the point of this threat, shyness in both men and women. In a different thread another member mentioned relationships with people one grews up with each other lasted longer. As we age that is a very important factor it seems. How do people develop trust, understanding if peole do not start somewhere. Why are people exhibiting similar behaviour online as people would, face to face. To understand the reluctance in writing an introductory letter, but then it can be taken further to understand, why one responses and how they respond. The thread is to have the members open up about writing to a person of interest and responding (even though responding was not meantioned in the OP). I believe online dating is just as difficult as it is face to face. We have thousands of profiles to read. We send introductory letters and some will respond. Some will shy away from both sending an introductory letter, or sending a response. The forum does brake this barrier, although more times than one can count a person will not send a letter just because you viewed their profile. This thread is not about the basic profile of like or dislike. Wants or not want. If there is a small interest, why not try and develop a friendship and see if there is a greater interest beyond friendship. Sometime we communicate merely on a friendship level from the start and it wil never change. |
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demands of others ignorance will only always come from those who don't see them self as the self bloated self inflated narcissistic egotist they be.
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There are several women here who are lesbians and don't like men.
Isn't that just taking the easy way out? |
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You and a few other certainly understood what the topic of what this thread is about.
It is not a topic one can generalize without writing a book about, to understand the micro aspects of men and women obviously. I believe your source of info was relatively correct in men need to know a woman has interest. That is the point of this threat, shyness in both men and women. In a different thread another member mentioned relationships with people one grews up with last longer. As we age that is a very important factor it seems. How do people develop trust, understanding if peole do not start somewhere. Why are people exhibiting similar behaviour online as people would face to face. To understand the reluctance in writing an introductory letter, but then it can be taken further to understand, why one responses and how they respond. The thread is to have the members open up about writing to a person of interest and responding (even though responding was not meantioned in the OP). I believe online dating is just as difficult as it is face to face. We have thousands of profiles to read. We send introductory letters and some will respond. Some will shy away from both sending an introductory letter, or sending a response. The forum does brake this barrier, although more times than one can count a person will not send a letter just because you viewed their profile. This thread is not about the basic profile of like or dislike. Wants or not want. If there is a small interest, why not try and develop a friendship and see if there is a greater interest beyond friendship. Sometime we communicate merely on a friendship level from the start and it wil never change. OP...this is a well written and thought out! I think this should clear the air on those who did not understand your intention in the original post. Peace! |
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Edited by
SpicyExcel
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Fri 12/12/14 06:53 PM
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You and a few other certainly understood what the topic of what this thread is about.
It is not a topic one can generalize without writing a book about, to understand the micro aspects of men and women obviously. I believe your source of info was relatively correct in men need to know a woman has interest. That is the point of this threat, shyness in both men and women. In a different thread another member mentioned relationships with people one grews up with last longer. As we age that is a very important factor it seems. How do people develop trust, understanding if peole do not start somewhere. Why are people exhibiting similar behaviour online as people would face to face. To understand the reluctance in writing an introductory letter, but then it can be taken further to understand, why one responses and how they respond. The thread is to have the members open up about writing to a person of interest and responding (even though responding was not meantioned in the OP). I believe online dating is just as difficult as it is face to face. We have thousands of profiles to read. We send introductory letters and some will respond. Some will shy away from both sending an introductory letter, or sending a response. The forum does brake this barrier, although more times than one can count a person will not send a letter just because you viewed their profile. This thread is not about the basic profile of like or dislike. Wants or not want. If there is a small interest, why not try and develop a friendship and see if there is a greater interest beyond friendship. Sometime we communicate merely on a friendship level from the start and it wil never change. OP...this is a well written and thought out! I think this should clear the air on those who did not understand your intention in the original post. Peace! By reading other posts' by the individuals' you referred to, they clearly understood the topic and how it would be interpreted by many people. They choose to create an arguement, even with clarification. Those individuals' choose not to see the opportunity in helping many here who want a long term relationship. Like wise to you too. Peace |
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Edited by
OnNewJourney
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Fri 12/12/14 07:15 PM
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in the "modern world", anything that can, might, may be an insinuation of un perfectness of another, can, might, may be taken as such. the art of unaccusatory speak is no doubt going to become more valuable each day. of course, that is for when one does not want to accuse. but hey, cheers to all the love messages! hehehe... smiles It's not easy to be tolerant and nonjudgmental all the time. Sometimes we are just too tired or overwhelmed with some feelings or...react the way we do for any number of other reasons and disregard the fact that there is an actual real person on the other side of the monitor reading what we wrote. Respectful and un-accusatory communication is an art indeed. However, it takes time and effort to master it. I try not to offend and insult to begin with (especially when some people intentionally provoke, for example ask for B.J. etc.), but I am not always successful at it as I'd like to be. :-) |
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On a topic...
SpicyExcel, I wouldn't really know who is most likely to establish the contact, men or women. I am not a site administrator, so I have no statistics to rely on. If you are right and women are less likely to be the first ones to establish initial contact, there could be a number of reasons from the tradition, being shy, insecure,afraid of rejection or being ignored, maybe playing chase-me-game ... to just a lack of interest. I don't know...could be any of number of reasons. However, whatever the reasons are, that shouldn't discourage anyone from trying to meet the person they are interested in. Who dares wins. ;-) |
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demands of others ignorance will only always come from those who don't see them self as the self bloated self inflated narcissistic egotist they be. |
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in the "modern world", anything that can, might, may be an insinuation of un perfectness of another, can, might, may be taken as such. the art of unaccusatory speak is no doubt going to become more valuable each day. of course, that is for when one does not want to accuse. but hey, cheers to all the love messages! hehehe... smiles It's not easy to be tolerant and nonjudgmental all the time. Sometimes we are just too tired or overwhelmed with some feelings or...react the way we do for any number of other reasons and disregard the fact that the actual real person is on the other side of the monitor reading what we wrote. Respectful and un-accusatory communication is an art indeed. However, it takes time and effort to master it. I try not to offend and insult to begin with (especially when some people intentionally provoke, for example ask for B.J. etc.), but I am not always successful at it as I'd like to be. :-) it tis a free world... all can be whatever they wish. there are no moral laws nor rules... only penalties if one does an illegal action. the words i posted were not about what people should or should not be... my words have nothing to do with some should be tolerant, accepting or respectful... only those who go through life deeming what others should be based upon them self would define that from my words... and then provide all the answers and reasons as to why one is doing what it self be doing, that it self deem may not e good... anyone can be as successful as they wish, in whatever they wish, and whatever they choose, the moment they leave out all the excuses for what they are not, in their own minds. peace |
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Edited by
OnNewJourney
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Fri 12/12/14 08:07 PM
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in the "modern world", anything that can, might, may be an insinuation of un perfectness of another, can, might, may be taken as such. the art of unaccusatory speak is no doubt going to become more valuable each day. of course, that is for when one does not want to accuse. but hey, cheers to all the love messages! hehehe... smiles It's not easy to be tolerant and nonjudgmental all the time. Sometimes we are just too tired or overwhelmed with some feelings or...react the way we do for any number of other reasons and disregard the fact that the actual real person is on the other side of the monitor reading what we wrote. Respectful and un-accusatory communication is an art indeed. However, it takes time and effort to master it. I try not to offend and insult to begin with (especially when some people intentionally provoke, for example ask for B.J. etc.), but I am not always successful at it as I'd like to be. :-) it tis a free world... all can be whatever they wish. there are no moral laws nor rules... only penalties if one does an illegal action. the words i posted were not about what people should or should not be... my words have nothing to do with some should be tolerant, accepting or respectful... only those who go through life deeming what others should be based upon them self would define that from my words... and then provide all the answers and reasons as to why one is doing what it self be doing, that it self deem may not e good... anyone can be as successful as they wish, in whatever they wish, and whatever they choose, the moment they leave out all the excuses for what they are not, in their own minds. peace I am not sure what were trying to tell me, but ... the way you expressed it wasn't too clear enough and left too much opened to an interpretation... so I'll just leave it there... Perhaps I'll get it eventually. Thanks for the reply. :-) |
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in the "modern world", anything that can, might, may be an insinuation of un perfectness of another, can, might, may be taken as such. the art of unaccusatory speak is no doubt going to become more valuable each day. of course, that is for when one does not want to accuse. but hey, cheers to all the love messages! hehehe... smiles It's not easy to be tolerant and nonjudgmental all the time. Sometimes we are just too tired or overwhelmed with some feelings or...react the way we do for any number of other reasons and disregard the fact that the actual real person is on the other side of the monitor reading what we wrote. Respectful and un-accusatory communication is an art indeed. However, it takes time and effort to master it. I try not to offend and insult to begin with (especially when some people intentionally provoke, for example ask for B.J. etc.), but I am not always successful at it as I'd like to be. :-) it tis a free world... all can be whatever they wish. there are no moral laws nor rules... only penalties if one does an illegal action. the words i posted were not about what people should or should not be... my words have nothing to do with some should be tolerant, accepting or respectful... only those who go through life deeming what others should be based upon them self would define that from my words... and then provide all the answers and reasons as to why one is doing what it self be doing, that it self deem may not e good... anyone can be as successful as they wish, in whatever they wish, and whatever they choose, the moment they leave out all the excuses for what they are not, in their own minds. peace I am not sure what were trying to tell me, but ... the way you expressed it wasn't too clear enough and left too much opened to an interpretation... so I'll just leave it there... Perhaps I'll get it eventually. Thanks for the reply. :-) perhaps this will help... as soon as one deems it self lacking for not understanding, then one will understand anything and everything it wishes to understand. good lucks with that. |
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in the "modern world", anything that can, might, may be an insinuation of un perfectness of another, can, might, may be taken as such. the art of unaccusatory speak is no doubt going to become more valuable each day. of course, that is for when one does not want to accuse. but hey, cheers to all the love messages! hehehe... smiles It's not easy to be tolerant and nonjudgmental all the time. Sometimes we are just too tired or overwhelmed with some feelings or...react the way we do for any number of other reasons and disregard the fact that the actual real person is on the other side of the monitor reading what we wrote. Respectful and un-accusatory communication is an art indeed. However, it takes time and effort to master it. I try not to offend and insult to begin with (especially when some people intentionally provoke, for example ask for B.J. etc.), but I am not always successful at it as I'd like to be. :-) it tis a free world... all can be whatever they wish. there are no moral laws nor rules... only penalties if one does an illegal action. the words i posted were not about what people should or should not be... my words have nothing to do with some should be tolerant, accepting or respectful... only those who go through life deeming what others should be based upon them self would define that from my words... and then provide all the answers and reasons as to why one is doing what it self be doing, that it self deem may not e good... anyone can be as successful as they wish, in whatever they wish, and whatever they choose, the moment they leave out all the excuses for what they are not, in their own minds. peace I am not sure what were trying to tell me, but ... the way you expressed it wasn't too clear enough and left too much opened to an interpretation... so I'll just leave it there... Perhaps I'll get it eventually. Thanks for the reply. :-) perhaps this will help... as soon as one deems it self lacking for not understanding, then one will understand anything and everything it wishes to understand. good lucks with that. Vielen dank f�r ihre antwort! :-) |
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that's precious...
thanks you so much. the same to you as well dearest. |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Sat 12/13/14 02:30 PM
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I do send a first message .. if I'm interested I am communicating with 2 men at the mo, one of which I sent the first message to .. because he interested me :) As for the chasing.. I have it from various sources online and in books that men need to know that you're interested in them. If you don't let them know one way or another, 95% of men out there won't initiate contact. So maybe it works the same online? Sending the first message as a woman doesn't mean there's no more chasing to be done! You and a few other certainly understood what the topic of this thread is about. It is not a topic one can generalize without writing a book about, to understand the micro aspects of men and women obviously. I believe your source of info was relatively correct in men need to know a woman has interest. That is the point of this threat, shyness in both men and women. In a different thread another member mentioned relationships with people one grews up with each other lasted longer. As we age that is a very important factor it seems. How do people develop trust, understanding if peole do not start somewhere. Why are people exhibiting similar behaviour online as people would, face to face. To understand the reluctance in writing an introductory letter, but then it can be taken further to understand, why one responses and how they respond. The thread is to have the members open up about writing to a person of interest and responding (even though responding was not meantioned in the OP). I believe online dating is just as difficult as it is face to face. We have thousands of profiles to read. We send introductory letters and some will respond. Some will shy away from both sending an introductory letter, or sending a response. The forum does brake this barrier, although more times than one can count a person will not send a letter just because you viewed their profile. This thread is not about the basic profile of like or dislike. Wants or not want. If there is a small interest, why not try and develop a friendship and see if there is a greater interest beyond friendship. Sometime we communicate merely on a friendship level from the start and it wil never change. The forums do help, but mostly for Americans. The chances of two Germans, Dutch, Austrian or whatever to meet on the forums are slim at best. Then it comes to the software a dating-site offers: automatic 'smart matches', matches based on what you are looking for, and the option to actively search with the possibility to set a lot of parameters (height, ethnicity, body type, education etc etc). Many sites don't offer these search parameters, or very limited number. Don't know if this still relates to the OP, but what does help if you're searching, is trying new dating-sites on a regular basis. The trendy sites change, the one that was hip last year, is for 'losers' now or as good as 'dead', so keep up to speed with what site is 'hot' at the mo. It's a dynamic thing. Also, when you're a new member, your profile comes up on top and you get a lot of ppl looking at you and approaching you. And for you a chance to get proactive and approach ppl yourself. Sticking to the same dating-site for yonks doesn't work. You'll be on page 45,000, no one will find you anymore, unless you pay to be put on top again (sod that!). Furthermore, new dating-sites often have more or new options and gadgets that make it easier to find the type of person you're looking for. So when you're serious about finding dates or a partner, go on a new site, register, and spend a lot of time on it the first week, cos that's when you're still hot and up top. Use that time well!!, approach people you like, many of them!! If you don't use that first week, you've lost the edge of being on top and wasted one heck of an opportunity to get in touch with MANY people!! (and lots of them will disappear cos you will find out you don't really like them that much). So if you're not really ready or in the mood to be proactive, don't become a member of a new site just yet. Wait till you got the mojo and make it work for you! And yes, women should send first messages too, men are often a bit awkward or shy when they're not sure you like them. Just like us, they don't like to take the risk of being rejected. And for men, I'd like to say, if you're going to approach a woman, at least send a (decent) message, not some stupid wink or nudge or whatever. So lame.. if you don't have the baws to communicate, don't bother I NEVER reply when someone sends me a wink, ever. Lame .. * Hopes Beach isn't gonna read here, more than 3 lines, he's gonna go mental, lol |
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