Topic: Prejudice apart,what do you like the most about Obamacare?
Conrad_73's photo
Sat 10/12/13 05:03 AM



never ceases to amaze me the very passionate and seemingly PERSONAL and vile HATRED some have for this president,, compared to any before

though he has really not done anything but allow congress to run the country,,


seems you need to harken back to the Vitriol the Left poured on GWB daily!slaphead



I didn't hear the hatred for him,, to be honest

I mostly heard ridicule,, nothing close to the vile 'personal' hatefulness I See towards this president,,
selectively deaf?laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 10/12/13 05:05 AM



never ceases to amaze me the very passionate and seemingly PERSONAL and vile HATRED some have for this president,, compared to any before

though he has really not done anything but allow congress to run the country,,




We have never had a dictator and piece of $hit like this in the White House before.



repeating it doesn't make it true,, congress runs the country, he has the opportunity to dictate by challenging THEIR DECISIONS, but he has done so less than most presidents before him...


never had one ruling by Edict like Obama!

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Sat 10/12/13 05:11 AM




never ceases to amaze me the very passionate and seemingly PERSONAL and vile HATRED some have for this president,, compared to any before

though he has really not done anything but allow congress to run the country,,




We have never had a dictator and piece of $hit like this in the White House before.



repeating it doesn't make it true,, congress runs the country, he has the opportunity to dictate by challenging THEIR DECISIONS, but he has done so less than most presidents before him...


never had one ruling by Edict like Obama!


:thumbsup: Administrative overreach!!...Maybe she was absent that day!laugh laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 10/12/13 05:26 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 10/12/13 06:17 AM



again,, congress is not getting exempted from the exchange

its RIGHT IN THE WORDING of the bill, which many on both sides don't bother to read or research as fervently as they do the opinions of their favorite pundits,,,

most don't like to spend money on their needs , don't LIKE paying rent or mortgate or car notes,,etc

but realize its the reality of handling ADULT responsibilities

Im not HAPPY to pay a tax, but gladly will be to contribute to being in a country where fewer people are having their lives turned around due to illness or having to choose between their medicine or their food,,,,

I know, its a far cry from the more patriotic 'what am I gonna get from it attitude',, but its still the attitude Im keeping,,


Since it was the Dems and congress rinos that asked for the exemption, blame them. As for "gladly will be to contribute to being in a country where fewer people are having their lives turned around due to illness".... I believe that shock and the reality of this atrocity is yet to fall on you in your delirium......

Guess you would rather see them destitute but with free healthcare


that makes no sense,,,

unaffordable care is what leads to destitution, uninsured status increases the bills exponentially when an illness occurs

they are LESS likely to be destitute if there is insurance in place to keep that cost down,,,



Liberals! Always addressing the result, never the cause! Bouncing from one unreasonable extreme to the next, while always pointing the finger of blame for their actions at someone or something else.

This frosting covered delicacy they are trying to sell is not a cupcake....IT'S A TURD!

OBozocare is costing jobs, hours, wages, benefits. Like Romans throwing christians to lions! It is a tax which puts every American still further under the heavy hand of the IRS and banks control grid. It makes your personal info available to EVERY alphabet agency that might seek it. As such it creates victims, not benefits!

There is nothing affordable or caring about it, or there wouldn't be people who wrote and passed it seeking exemptions from it! It's about one thing and one thing only.....CONTROL!

All it accomplishes is to bring another part of your personal freedom under the control of a growing gov't fist of power, to control, as your health and the health of your family becomes yet another property of gov't and not the individuals right!

Everything gov't touches turns to shite! Education, environment, taxation, energy, the markets..... nothing but continuing failures! And this is what you want for the future of your health?

And the next time they decide to shut down or default, when your healthcare is under their control, when hospitals become like the WWII memorials, national parks, and historical monuments of gov't, where will you turn?

My goodness (very soft explicative)! Get a friggin clue! slaphead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNTuIxLXAo8&feature=youtu.be


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Sat 10/12/13 09:17 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sat 10/12/13 10:08 AM
What Obama can't get his demented democrats in congress to do, he just writes an executive order to get it done.
Under Obama, democracy has failed. As intended.

metalwing's photo
Sat 10/12/13 09:53 AM
Edited by metalwing on Sat 10/12/13 09:57 AM

Here are some thoughts by intelligent people. Some are thousands of years old but apply today perhaps better than ever.



One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.

�� Milton Friedman

The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive.

�� Thomas Sowell

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

�� Thomas Jefferson

The society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither. The society that puts freedom before equality will end up with a great measure of both.

�� Milton Friedman

and of course...

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

�� Alexis De Tocqueville

A government with the policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul

�� George Bernard Shaw

When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.

� P.J. O'Rourke

The care of every man'��s soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills.

�� Thomas Jefferson

It'��s illegal to say to a voter "��Here'��s $100, vote for me."�� So what do the politicians do? They offer the $100 in the form of Health Care, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Food Stamps, tobacco subsidies, grain payments, NEA payments, and jobs programs.

�� Don Farrar






Conrad_73's photo
Sat 10/12/13 11:00 AM
He that lives upon hope will
die fasting!

Ben Franklin


Wonder if anyone has clued in Obama yet!

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/12/13 11:26 AM

What Obama can't get his demented democrats in congress to do, he just writes an executive order to get it done.
Under Obama, democracy has failed. As intended.


keep hearing same bs,,no proof of it ever given though,lol

executive orders have to apply to how a government ORGANIZATION is to be run,,, it cant bypass a LAW applying to us citizens

smh

metalwing's photo
Sat 10/12/13 11:53 AM

He that lives upon hope will
die fasting!

Ben Franklin


Wonder if anyone has clued in Obama yet!


Many of Obama's strongest supporters have realized the Emperor has no clothes. Not surprising is that most blacks tend to support him regardless of his repeated gross mistakes. It would appear loyalty to skin color is the strongest of all motivations to some.

Narcissists, such as Obama, tend to surround themselves with people who only say what the narcissist want's to hear. Regardless of any bad news, there will be many to tell him, "it is short lived", "that is standard opposition rhetoric", and you can bet he believes the BS from his own spin doctors.

The fact that he has proven to be the ultimate political hack and a fool in international relations will always escape him.

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Sat 10/12/13 12:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 10/12/13 12:07 PM


He that lives upon hope will
die fasting!

Ben Franklin


Wonder if anyone has clued in Obama yet!


Many of Obama's strongest supporters have realized the Emperor has no clothes. Not surprising is that most blacks tend to support him regardless of his repeated gross mistakes. It would appear loyalty to skin color is the strongest of all motivations to some.

Narcissists, such as Obama, tend to surround themselves with people who only say what the narcissist want's to hear. Regardless of any bad news, there will be many to tell him, "it is short lived", "that is standard opposition rhetoric", and you can bet he believes the BS from his own spin doctors.

The fact that he has proven to be the ultimate political hack and a fool in international relations will always escape him.


the alleged fact is actually an opinion

as to the claim of loyalty to skin? what of the whites who support him,, what would be their reason?

how belittling and condescending to assume that someone cannot find reasons to support a person the same as any other person finds reasons to support a person

'most' blacks can think for themselves as well as 'most' whites,, tyvm

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Sat 10/12/13 05:52 PM
The "Progressives" have already accomplished their goal. Obamacare will result in masses of people refusing to buy insurance because it's cheaper to be uninsured and the insurance companies can not refuse you if you get sick. The high-risk patients will enroll which will send premiums skyrocketing. The insurance companies will withdraw from the business or go bankrupt. The Progressives will then declare that it has to be run by the government and funded from individual taxes. Voila - a Single Payer European-style system.

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Sat 10/12/13 11:42 PM

"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--

uche9aa's photo
Sun 10/13/13 03:24 AM


"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--
CeriseRose,glad to know you are around,we missed you in christian single!

uche9aa's photo
Sun 10/13/13 03:25 AM


"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/13/13 03:26 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/13/13 03:27 AM


"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--



what does that even mean?

some more of the 'Obama supporters' aren't as intelligent as Obama haters nonsense?

odd, since in these threads the Obama hate is rarely backed with any researchable or validated 'facts'

yep, I support OBama, I don't think he is perfect, I don't require him to be perfect to support him, and am not the least bit 'confused' just because I choose to support MOST of what he does,,,

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Sun 10/13/13 08:29 AM



"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--
CeriseRose,glad to know you are around,we missed you in christian single!


Ty uche9aa!
Glad you are all still here as well!
-Blessings!-

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Sun 10/13/13 09:25 AM



"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--



what does that even mean?

some more of the 'Obama supporters' aren't as intelligent as Obama haters nonsense?

odd, since in these threads the Obama hate is rarely backed with any researchable or validated 'facts'

yep, I support OBama, I don't think he is perfect, I don't require him to be perfect to support him, and am not the least bit 'confused' just because I choose to support MOST of what he does,,,


Anyone who isn't 'confused' really doesn't understand the situation.

metalwing's photo
Sun 10/13/13 04:14 PM



"Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous
is not likely to get him to change his mind.
But it may cost you a friend. Same story with believers in Obama.
They've made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused
by the facts, they resent being told the facts."


--Thomas Sowell--



what does that even mean?

some more of the 'Obama supporters' aren't as intelligent as Obama haters nonsense?

odd, since in these threads the Obama hate is rarely backed with any researchable or validated 'facts'

yep, I support OBama, I don't think he is perfect, I don't require him to be perfect to support him, and am not the least bit 'confused' just because I choose to support MOST of what he does,,,


Exactly what has Obama done that you have not supported?

metalwing's photo
Sun 10/13/13 04:25 PM


What Obama can't get his demented democrats in congress to do, he just writes an executive order to get it done.
Under Obama, democracy has failed. As intended.


keep hearing same bs,,no proof of it ever given though,lol

executive orders have to apply to how a government ORGANIZATION is to be run,,, it cant bypass a LAW applying to us citizens

smh


Here is a few of many. You never seem to know what he has done if it makes him look bad.

"July 17, 2012 - Last Thursday, the Obama Administration quietly issued new bureaucratic rules that overturned the popular welfare reform law of 1996. This was an illegal move, and it completely undoes years of progress that .... this crap the 111th Congress passed ~ and, not ONE Republican voted for ObamaCare."

"The Dream Act"

"Changing the rules of Obamacare"

oldsage's photo
Sun 10/13/13 04:34 PM
Amazes me, the lack of education of the people "drinking the koolaid". ANYONE that takes the time to study the info. coming out, can see the damage this will do to this country. Dr. Ben Carson, calls it "slavery". EDUCATE yourself about this & see the TRUTH.