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other than education that offers life skills the rest of the list has little to do with living wages,,,,, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 07:37 AM
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Laila Jennings, a 29-year-old sales associate at T.J. Maxx, was eating at a McDonald's in New York City this week and said she hadn't heard of the movement. Still, she said she thinks workers should be paid more. "They work on their feet all day," Jennings said, adding that $12 to $15 an hour seemed fair. As it stands, fast-food workers say they can't live on what they're paid. Shaniqua Davis, 20, lives in the Bronx with her boyfriend, who is unemployed, and their 1-year-old daughter. Davis has worked at a McDonald's a few blocks from her apartment for the past three months, earning $7.25 an hour. Her schedule varies, but she never gets close to 40 hours a week. "Forty? Never. They refuse to let you get to that (many) hours." Her weekly paycheck is $150 or much lower. "One of my paychecks, I only got $71 on there. So I wasn't able to do much with that. My daughter needs stuff, I need to get stuff for my apartment," said Davis, who plans to take part in the strike Thursday. She pays the rent with public assistance but struggles to afford food, diapers, subway and taxi fares, cable TV and other expenses with her paycheck. "It's really hard," she said. "If I didn't have public assistance to help me out, I think I would have been out on the street already with the money I make at McDonald's." What do you say? This is what I say... to Ms Davis... You are 20 yrs old. You have a 1 yr old daughter at home and her daddy, your boyfriend, doesn't work. You get your rent paid for by the state. You have a part time job and are struggling to pay the bills. Welcome to the real world honey. Be thankful taxpayers are putting a roof over your daughter's head for ya. Some of us in the old days had to work two jobs and go without things like cable to pay the rent while we struggled to make our way in the world. Maybe you should have waited to start a family until you could afford to buy diapers. But alas, that ship has sailed, so please tell your boyfriend to put down the X-box paddles and get a job and help support your family! Give up the cable. Switch to cloth diapers...daddy can wash 'em out between X-Boxing and watching HBO on the high def flat screen TV. Get up an hour earlier and walk those few blocks to work instead of taking a cab. Did ya call that cab on your fancy Iphone 5? Please! Really?!? I'm sick of people thinking they're entitled to a life of luxury. Stop whining about how you should get more so you can work less. Enough already. Get me a burger biotch! ![]() Yah, that's what I'd say... ![]() Damn you ARE miss wright! Where you been all my life girl? ![]() One correction tho..... not "boyfriend".... it's "baby daddy" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I almost busted a gut!... only because I HAD 'baby's daddy' in there originally before proofing and opted for boyfriend instead to try to curb possible perceived racism in my statement. Thanks for the correction, and the compliment. ![]() It's baby daddy, her boyfriend probably lives with someone else.... like his wife, or baby momma. I've watched Jerry Springer a couple of times...... yes, continue blaming it on the mothers who are trying to hold it toghether and continue with the ASSumptions about what they could afford when they had the child based upon the situation they find themslf in at some point in that childs 18 years,,,, unbelievable,,,,, coming back to the point, regardless of peoples PERSONAL LIVES, if they are putting in an honest days work, they should get 'honest' pay,, not just scraps to keep them from 'complaining' while people beat them down about having to struggle,,,, Simply put, tell us how mom and pop who have no other source of income, are going to be able to pay more money for wages when this action is not going to grow their business in any way? So you destroy one group of people who have worked hard, put in long hours to build something, but now they must fail so corporations can raise prices on cheap fast food? Oh wait....I forgot....."They didn't build that!" ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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its been explained
you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 07:50 AM
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, Liberal logic! It takes a lawyer or an Einstein, and sense will never be made of it! ![]() Where is the money coming from? Do we go further in debt by borrowing more? Grow money trees? Less jobs creates more money? Liberal logic 101... ![]() |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, You really need to read Mises and Hayek,NOT Krugman! ![]() |
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Long term, permanent solutions.
Not temporary, devastating, knee jerk reactions. I learned somewhere a term that goes 'Keep It simple, stupid. That term uncomplcates the hell out of life. Simple solutions. Responsible breeding. Closed borders. Deport illegals. Education that offers life skills. Put the burden of undisciplined kids squarely on the parents shoulders. |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, You really need to read Mises and Hayek,NOT Krugman! ![]() Best not to confuse a liberal with facts Con.... they'll go broke on lawyer fees! |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, if the mom and pop are forced to pay a higher minimum wage, it cuts into their profits. so they either have to make up that money by spending less on their product, offer less product for more money, move the business to pay lower rent, or something to offset the cost of the higher payroll. mind you, employee production isn't going to go up just because the employees are getting paid more it's easier and more cost efficient to fire or lay off an employee to make up for the loss in profits (the other option is the product suffers) the remaining employees get a higher pay rate, but now the fewer employees have to work harder to maintain the production that was being produced. sure the remaining employees should have more money to spend, but now their taxes have gone up. their take home pay may only end up a few dollars more than what it was before. if they were on assistance, the higher income may disqualify them, so now they have to pay for their rent, or food, or cellular telephone the employee that was terminated is now on government assistance, so you may be right, it worked itself out |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 08:14 AM
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To anyone with common sense it is easy to see that the only ones who profit from this are people in finance, unions and corporations!
It's a scenario of not being able to see the forest thru the trees! How gullible the uninformed media masses are! ![]() All they see or hear is "MORE MONEY!" and their intelligence is satisfied |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, ![]() |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, Liberal logic! It takes a lawyer or an Einstein, and sense will never be made of it! ![]() Where is the money coming from? Do we go further in debt by borrowing more? Grow money trees? Less jobs creates more money? Liberal logic 101... ![]() there are already LESS JOBS conservative logic,, jobs you cant LIVE off of are better than no jobs at all and the existence of those jobs is a good thing to keep 'mom and pop' stores open,,, so more people are away from the kids who are having less and less raising, for scraps they should somehow be 'grateful' for, working as much time and effort as anyone else, to try to go in debt sending them to college so that they can maybe come out and only have to be paid 8 bcks an hour for their investment too I think not,,, |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, You really need to read Mises and Hayek,NOT Krugman! ![]() so, if you have to hire fewer people, do it at least those working can then stimulate the economy by being able to truly PARTICIPATE in it,, and then maybe profits will pick up at which time you can HIRE MORE PEOPLE,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 08/30/13 09:17 AM
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all they see its the poors own fault, we don't need to do anything about the ECONOMY or the wages,,,,
find the scapegoat, and the 'skilled' and 'hardworking' majority can look down their noses feeling satisfied,,, the fat cats wont and shouldn't have to take less so other people can share in the ABUNDANCE of this country in return for THEIR HARD WORK,,,nooo that makes NO sense,, much more logical to keep the impoverished struggling and claim we are doing it to look out for 'mom and pop stores'.. |
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here is a proposal to work with
once we define what qualifies as a 'mom and pop' store, why don't we have a small business min wage, that is separate from the federal min wage that way the companies that aren't just MOM AND POP cant get away with giving scraps to people who put in hard days at their jobs,,,, |
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yes, continue blaming it on the mothers who are trying to hold it toghether and continue with the ASSumptions about what they could afford when they had the child based upon the situation they find themslf in at some point in that childs 18 years,,,, unbelievable,,,,, coming back to the point, regardless of peoples PERSONAL LIVES, if they are putting in an honest days work, they should get 'honest' pay,, not just scraps to keep them from 'complaining' while people beat them down about having to struggle,,,, Oh dear. I seemed to have touched a nerve. Would it help you to know that I WAS a single mother struggling, getting assistance from the state when I was young? I went to college while I got aid. I couldn't devote the attention to both my son and school so I dropped out, put my dream on hold. I got a job and lost more assistance than I gained in wages, but I still went to work! I didn't take a handOUT, I took a hand UP. Not once did I complain that I didn't make enough....a livable wage is what exactly? Whose standards define livable? Do you need cable to live? You'd die from walking "a few blocks" to work? I think not! This chick is 20 and has had a job for a couple of months and wants $15/hour for flipping burgers? I worked as a 911 operator saving lives and didn't make that until I'd been there 5 years! Her baby's father doesn't work and taxpayers pay her rent and she's complaining that it's hard. Yes I blame her. She chose to have sex with a deadbeat and become a mother. She chooses to have cable and take cabs. Maybe I assumed they had the high def...I'll give ya that!...but I bet I'm not wrong. My point is this...you start at the bottom, you work hard, you move up, you better yourself and teach your child the value of hard work. THAT is the American way! You DON'T just kick back and expect society to pay for your choices. Get another job if you have to. Go without luxuries until you can support yourself and your family. Don't cry poverty while the man of the house sits home unemployed. Go to school on nights off. Learn a skill or trade. Make an effort. Help should be there for those who want to help themselves and need it. It shouldn't be a free ride for life! This from a former welfare struggling single mom that's been there, done that. I'm not some rich biotch snubbing my nose at the less fortunate. I WAS the less fortunate. I worked hard to remedy that situation. She should do the same. Life isn't easy MsHarmony. Not for any of us... |
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here is a proposal to work with once we define what qualifies as a 'mom and pop' store, why don't we have a small business min wage, that is separate from the federal min wage that way the companies that aren't just MOM AND POP cant get away with giving scraps to people who put in hard days at their jobs,,,, I've got a suggestion for you.... Why don't we just keep gov't out of the business of "ruling" and have them just start "protecting" the rights of any who feel they have been wronged as they are supposed to do. Perhaps then the lobbyists and corporations wouldn't have us in the economy we are in. People have the ability to say yes or no to an offer, even for employment! If you don't like the wage or contract, move on! Free markets work creating price stability and growth, gov't regs simply throw a wrench into the whole machine! Wrap your liberal mind around "freedom and justice" instead of "debt and slavery" for a change..... but we all know by now it's easier to blame racism and others for you. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 08/30/13 10:02 AM
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don't I know it
not sure how you managed to take care of kids at all with no help but went to work,,,kids need SUPERVISION from someone.. but in any case I have worked since I was 18 ( with the exception of three years recently) never HAVE gotten out of the impoverished class even with a college education (Which now adds INDEBT to impoverished), although I too made it work without assistance (of the government kind, but EVERYONE needs assistance and thnk God I have loving family to help me out) only those three unemployed years did I receive assistance because,, I was UNEMPLOYED,,,(at least at a paying job, I still went to volunteer work for those three years) haven't seen my wage change since I Was 18(a couple of times I have earned maybe two dollars more),even though I have been 'earning' and trying to 'work my way up' problem is , its far too acceptable in this economy to tell people they can start at the bottom and 'work their way up', and just leaving them indefinitely 'working at the bottom' that's bs,,no matter the excuses or the blame game people should have a more fair shot of 'working their way up', instead of being stuck at the bottom and told to remain grateful about it,,, ,,,on the flip side my mother, had two children, unmarried, never had ASSISTANCE of any type , went to college , managed to get into a great position at a young age which became a CAREER(something that few obtain anymore) is extremely intelligent and hardworking, and she sees that its bs to ask someone to work for 7 ror 8 bucks an hour too ,,, my brother who is a doctor,,,etc,,,etc,, etc,, understands that there is such a thing as a wage being bs,,,and our current wages are just that,,,, raise the bar so people have a realistic opportunity more often to climb that ladder,, instead of repeating that false ideology of how its not about anything but 'working hard' and 'starting' at the bottom,,,, ,,,my two cents,, and as someone on assistance who hasn't been (smart enough? hard working enough? moral enough?) to have worked her way out of poverty yet knowing that may make me seem too unintelligent or incapable of logic,,, I threw in examples of a couple people I know personally who were NEVER on assistance and who have done well and happen to share my opinion |
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here is a proposal to work with once we define what qualifies as a 'mom and pop' store, why don't we have a small business min wage, that is separate from the federal min wage that way the companies that aren't just MOM AND POP cant get away with giving scraps to people who put in hard days at their jobs,,,, I've got a suggestion for you.... Why don't we just keep gov't out of the business of "ruling" and have them just start "protecting" the rights of any who feel they have been wronged as they are supposed to do. Perhaps then the lobbyists and corporations wouldn't have us in the economy we are in. People have the ability to say yes or no to an offer, even for employment! If you don't like the wage or contract, move on! Free markets work creating price stability and growth, gov't regs simply throw a wrench into the whole machine! Wrap your liberal mind around "freedom and justice" instead of "debt and slavery" for a change..... but we all know by now it's easier to blame racism and others for you. lol,, what 'you all know' about me at this point amounts to CRAP ALL, except that I don't accept the masters logic about how the slaves (who can be of any race or gender) should be grateful master gave them his crumbs,,,, and how asking for more is lazy, ungrateful, and will completely unravel the fabric of society,,, |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, liberal economics 101... ![]() |
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its been explained you raise the bar of what people are paid, and it works itself out people ACROSS The board will have more TO SPEND at the mom and pop store,,,,its really not that hard,,, liberal economics 101... ![]() so, it is 'liberal' to understand having more means having more? interesting..lol |
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