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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, And then you complain about prices and need another raise to afford it! 
Liberal economics for sure! This is all about raising cost, not value! Value is what will suffer most! |
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I graduated with a BS in biobehavioral psychology the same year my son graduated from high school. I owe a ton of money and I'm still in poverty. I will never get out of poverty unless I hit the lottery. My degree hasn't helped me at all in this stagnated economy and again I'm at the bottom looking up. Uh, did you consider job supply and demand when you chose your major? Nah. After 10 yrs doing 911 and listening to really screwed up people, I decided I wanted to know WHAT makes people screwed up to begin with instead of dealing with the consequences after the fact... so I went back to school. I chose the biology side of psychology for my major hoping that Obama would be out, economy would boost, research grants would become available, and I could study brains somewhere in the future. Maybe help cure Alzheimer's or something (which happens to explain why I moved to FL after graduation...thought this would be prime location for that with senior population here!). Wasn't thinking about how much money I could make when I chose my major...learned to live without much of that by now...just wanted to make a difference in the world before I kick the bucket. Call me a fool...you won't be the first. Just ask MsHarmony how foolish I am! 
If you were hoping to receive a research grant from the federal government, then weren't you hoping to become a dependent of the federal government? Are there private sources of research grants? I honestly don't know Dodo. I believe there are private sources for research but I can't say for certainty. But you are right, most grants for brain research come from the government and go to the institution who would then pay me for poking brain cells...so in a round about way I'd be dependent on the government. I worked for the govt doing 911 for 10 yrs... I was dependent on the government for my paycheck, not for a free ride. Different animal, no? |
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Edited by
msharmony
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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, And then you complain about prices and need another raise to afford it!
no, I don't complain about what stuff costs, I buy it if its WORTH it there are almost always low cost options for material things,, which don't concern me its having shelter, having groceries, having incidentals, having utilities, having a communication source(phone, computer, whatever),transportation (the vehicle might not be expensive, but the ongoing insurance and registration can be) those vitals whose costs I might complain about because we often don't have as much of a competitive choice when it comes to their prices |
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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, And then you complain about prices and need another raise to afford it!
no, I don't complain about what stuff costs, I buy it if its WORTH it there are almost always low cost options for material things,, which don't concern me its having shelter, having groceries, having incidentals, having utilities, having a communication source(phone, computer, whatever),transportation (the vehicle might not be expensive, but the ongoing insurance and registration can be) those vitals whose costs I might complain about because we often don't have as much of a competitive choice when it comes to their prices But you are wanting to destroy those options with your logic, turn everything over to corporate monopoly. Like insurance, healthcare, energy, education..... they've done so well at keeping cost down and raising quality so far haven't they?
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They will need the $15 min. just to pay the tax for Obama care.
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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, And then you complain about prices and need another raise to afford it!
no, I don't complain about what stuff costs, I buy it if its WORTH it there are almost always low cost options for material things,, which don't concern me its having shelter, having groceries, having incidentals, having utilities, having a communication source(phone, computer, whatever),transportation (the vehicle might not be expensive, but the ongoing insurance and registration can be) those vitals whose costs I might complain about because we often don't have as much of a competitive choice when it comes to their prices But you are wanting to destroy those options with your logic, turn everything over to corporate monopoly. Like insurance, healthcare, energy, education..... they've done so well at keeping cost down and raising quality so far haven't they?
paying people 1.50 more is gonna do all that? |
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They will need the $15 min. just to pay the tax for Obama care.
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8.25 hour here, we had few people marching in our city. Many canceled out the local news said.
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They will need the $15 min. just to pay the tax for Obama care.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 11:35 AM
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1. I would like for anyone who talks about a "living wage" to define what that is. 2. Each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage. If a state's constitution and laws permit it, then a city can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage or any state minimum wage. 3. If the cost of labor for a restaurant goes up, then that additional cost will be passed on to the restaurant's customers. So, how do you suppose that the customers will react to the resulting higher prices? gee, I don't know I suppose if a person working hard is the way to get paid more perhaps offering products that are WORTH THE PRICE is a way for customers to pay for them,,, just a thought,,, So you would rather pay $80,000 for a "better" VW instead of just buying a Porsche? bad example for me Id rather pay what I could afford and what was WORTH what I could afford IF I could afford 800000 for a vw, I wouldn't pay it because I wouldn't feel (in its CURRENT models) that its worth it honestly, I probably wouldn't pay 80000 for a car period, Im just not into being flashy and don't see the need, ID rather use that money traveling or something,,,lol now, that doesn't mean tht VW couldn't PRODUCE A car that I would consider worth it though,,, Ok, so you would rather pay $20 at a mom and pop (which sells a million less burgers a year) for a burger than $10 at a Mickey D's? Or do I have your opinion of "better" confused with quality? I actually HAVE spent more at a little family shop for a well made burger than for those over processed excuses for a sandwich at mcdonalds,,, so,, yes,, if its WORTH it, and I HAVE it, I pay it,,, And then you complain about prices and need another raise to afford it!
no, I don't complain about what stuff costs, I buy it if its WORTH it there are almost always low cost options for material things,, which don't concern me its having shelter, having groceries, having incidentals, having utilities, having a communication source(phone, computer, whatever),transportation (the vehicle might not be expensive, but the ongoing insurance and registration can be) those vitals whose costs I might complain about because we often don't have as much of a competitive choice when it comes to their prices But you are wanting to destroy those options with your logic, turn everything over to corporate monopoly. Like insurance, healthcare, energy, education..... they've done so well at keeping cost down and raising quality so far haven't they?
paying people 1.50 more is gonna do all that? The price of oil goes up, and what happens? It affects whole industries! Transportation, shipping, mailing, production, where does it end? Guess you have never heard of the "Butterfly Effect"? We are interconnected to all things, as is industry! Raising the cost of doing business requires people to make even more to access the most basic of needs! So what happens? People take to the streets for still higher wages! Get a clue! Learn to live within your means and be part of a solution rather than a problem! |
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always giving respect to those who show respect 
Back at ya MsHarmony.
Gotta run now. Well, not literally 'cause I broke my foot but ya know what I mean.
Enjoy the rest of your day. We shall debate again soon I'm sure. 
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paying people 1.50 more is gonna do all that?
Where do you get 1.50 more? The fast food workers are wanting 15.00/hr That's double the 7.50/hr they are making now. If you raise their pay 7.50/hr to 15/hr do you then also raise the pay of those making 15/hr to 22.50/hr and so on and so forth? |
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newsflash,,, the price of oil goes up regardless of what people are paid
and the price of oil has fluctuated over the years even WHEN minimum wage has been increasing,,,, as has the price of other things we are connected to,,, problem is as PRICES go up, people need the money in their pockets to go up to PAY for them you are right, they are connected, but the rising cost of living is the reason WHY the rising price of wages makes sense |
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paying people 1.50 more is gonna do all that?
Where do you get 1.50 more? The fast food workers are wanting 15.00/hr That's double the 7.50/hr they are making now. If you raise their pay 7.50/hr to 15/hr do you then also raise the pay of those making 15/hr to 22.50/hr and so on and so forth? I already said 15 was too high but the current rate is too low I do believe its time to implement another min wage increase, perhaps a dollar or two from where its at,,,, |
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They don't realize that these type jobs are for after school or for college students. They are part-time low skill jobs. Come on, they want to make a career out of Burger King? I feel for them but they should put their efforts in finding a real job or education. Who do you think works there when the kids are in school? |
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They don't realize that these type jobs are for after school or for college students. They are part-time low skill jobs. Come on, they want to make a career out of Burger King? I feel for them but they should put their efforts in finding a real job or education. Who do you think works there when the kids are in school? People who are suffering already due to higher prices and the economy, and can't find a job anywhere else. So let's make it even worse.....right? |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 11:44 AM
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newsflash,,, the price of oil goes up regardless of what people are paid and the price of oil has fluctuated over the years even WHEN minimum wage has been increasing,,,, as has the price of other things we are connected to,,, problem is as PRICES go up, people need the money in their pockets to go up to PAY for them you are right, they are connected, but the rising cost of living is the reason WHY the rising price of wages makes sense So corporate greed and bank manipulation, regulation and crooked politics isn't the problem? So drinking more alcohol will cure an alcoholic? Cool! |
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They don't realize that these type jobs are for after school or for college students. They are part-time low skill jobs. Come on, they want to make a career out of Burger King? I feel for them but they should put their efforts in finding a real job or education. Who do you think works there when the kids are in school? People who are suffering already due to higher prices and the economy, and can't find a job anywhere else. So let's make it even worse.....right? I think that $15.00/hour is too much. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 08/30/13 11:57 AM
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They don't realize that these type jobs are for after school or for college students. They are part-time low skill jobs. Come on, they want to make a career out of Burger King? I feel for them but they should put their efforts in finding a real job or education. Who do you think works there when the kids are in school? People who are suffering already due to higher prices and the economy, and can't find a job anywhere else. So let's make it even worse.....right? I think that $15.00/hour is too much. Even the cost of living raise for the military (Is it still every 5 or 7 years?) is only like 3-5%....not 100% |
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