No, it's not fantasy. It's the law of vibration. And you are right, people should NOT complain about anything, except in an effort to solve a real or practical problem. (Like exchanging a bad product.)

But just because you realize that you created the situation, does not mean you are going to be "content" about it. In fact you should learn from the experience and then maybe you can learn how to create a better situation.

It has NOTHING to do with what one knows is a wrong or right thing to do. Obviously you could say that a 'wrong' thing is going to result in something unpleasant and a 'right' thing will bring good things into your experience.

I can see you don't understand the concept of the law of vibration. I don't either except on a very broad basis. But I have absolute faith in it.

I didn't say we should "shrug it off" because we created it.

People don't realize they created it.

I know we create every experience we have, I am not all that clear yet on exactly HOW we do it, but it has to do with what we put our attention on, and attitudes and thoughts etc.

I realize that I create everything and every experience in my life.

We sometimes forget though, and we fall back into a state of complaining about everything until we realize that we create every experience we have whether we realize how or not.



Karma comes by way of many things.

Make me think about what kind of Karma did Travon Martin bring upon himself to loose his life?

or what kind of karma did the children in the Oklahoma bombing bring upon themselves

or what kind of karma did casey anthonys baby bring upon itself

or what kind of karma the people in that Connecticut theater brought upon themselves


or what kind of karma Nicole and ron brought upon themselves...



that type of philosophy can lead to endless 'wondering' about such things,,

I haven't even watched comedy central in a long time and for the past year with good reason. I don't have cable or satellite TV.

Glad I got a laugh out of two people with that joke though. hahaha

and,somehow,out of seven Billion People,you are the only one who knows what happened that Night?
All the Investigators are Dummies?

There are no victims

Of course your religion permits them. Mine does not.

I don't really worry about what karma people create. I just have absolute faith in the law of vibrations.

This law is exact down to the quantum world level and there in no way anyone could know everything involved. We are all co-creators of this reality and we are all connected.

She thinks she knows.

Please don't take this as an insult, but wouldn't calling Z and "armed adult" and T and "Unarmed minor" be indicative of a certain bias? After all, neither fact (age, or who was armed) came into account before the shooting. Neither party was ever carded by the other for verification of age prior to the incident, and there was no way of knowing that Z was armed until the actual shooting incident making both pieces of information irrelevant. I say this in loose reference to your comment about using "logic" earlier. While the definition is slightly different from "critical thinking", i do believe there is some overlap, and critically speaking, both accusations are a prejudgment of the situation and leading people to a point of view based on emotion (Armed adult stalker = bad, Unarmed minor = innocent).

I guess neither side can be proven to anyone's satisfaction. However, as you would know more than most due to your occupation, we have a general rule about being innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I, for one, would choose this philosophy over the alternative any day, even if sometimes criminals go free.

He was a seventeen yr old!!! Because he didn't respond as you would have done( and who really knows what you would have done until you are actaually in the situation)Teenagers are not necessarily known for always making the wisest of decisions, yet you want to blame the victim for his own death? This murder would never have happened if Zimmerman had not stalked this child, willfully ignoring all that his training had taught him and the 911 dispatchers instructions. He knew better, but wait!, he also knew about the stand your ground law. hmmmmmm....

Child,hmmm?

Indeed he did. And Z was wrong to follow. However, if the story was, as the defense described (which is possible), and T attacked because he saw some "cracka" following him, then Z would have been within his rights to fire, as he did not become violent first. The situation may have gone down very different, in which my opinion would likely change if i saw more evidence for the prosecution. But there just isn't much evidence at all in this case as i previously stated.

I would like to point out that i believe the pursuit to be unjustified, as any concealed carry class will tell you that a gun does not make any dark alley or confrontation safer. As a rule, if you carry the "turn the other cheek" philosophy becomes a way of life. However, the pursuit itself does not necessarily warrant a murder charge.

That being said, in a different situation, say i happen to be walking down the same, dark, suburban street as someone else, behind him, and he decides to wait around the corner and jump me "in self defense" for following, I would like to think i would not have to spend my life in prison for shooting a 16 year old who was my size or bigger, as i would probably not have taken the time to card him while i was being hit.

These stories are VERY different, but would sound similar to many, and likely in a court of law.

lol

nice try,,
nope,, my individual self cant KNOW what happened

neither can the six individuals on jury

neither can any of the individuals who 'investigated'...lol

humans all, and all capable of being wrong,, or RIGHT

I choose to aknowledge that people can be GUILTY of things without being proven guilty, in fact, without ever even being caught

so, though I agree with the ideal GOAL in terms of justice of 'innocent til proven guilty'

I aknowledge in reality,, proof has nothing to do with whether one is guilty or not,, it doesn't define whether they have done something or not, it only defines if they have left behind enough evidence to prove it,,,,

in this case, the testimony and evidence, cause me to conclude that Zimmerman got away with killing an unarmed minor unnecessarily,,,

unarmed minor and armed adult are just legal realities

and t knew z was a man,, as did z know t was a teen,,,

as to being armed,,,who knows what either knew,, except the one who had a gun (of course he was aware he had a gun)

Mr Z showed almost a whole minute of restraint before defending himself.
He shot after dead thug told him he was going to kill him.
Fortunately,the shot was lucky enough to stop a brave watchman from being murdered by the son of an ex crip.

Yet, you are certain that Zimmerman is guilty of murder or manslaughter, despite the fact that Zimmerman's actions didn't fit the definition of murder or manslaughter contained in Florida law.

I realize that 17 sounds young to us old 50 and 60 somethings, but even 15 year old "children" commit crimes and can be taller than George Zimmerman. In fact, the minors in gangs are recruited to do the crimes because the gangs know that old softies like us will exclaim.... "OMG he's just a child!"

That does not mean they are not dangerous or that they are innocent children. In other countries 'children' are trained terrorists and suicide bombers.

17 is a young adult. It is not a child, I don't care how old YOU are in comparison. If a 17 year old 5'11" teen who has learned martial arts started beating your head against the sidewalk telling you that you were 'going to die" I don't think you should think twice about him possibly being a minor or care what color skin he has... or the consequences of pulling out your gun and shooting him.

If he hadn't gotten killed. It's entirely possible that Trey would have been tried as an adult. That would have been at the discretion of the court. But it's possible that if he had lived that he would be sitting in a prison cell instead of a detention center. Depending on his sentence he probably would have ended up in prison eventually anyway and I'd be willing to bet he could be wishing he was dead once in prison. Even if he had martial arts training.

One of my teachers talked about a guy on parole kept on getting in fights and told them to send him to prison because he didn't care. He figured he could fight anyone that came along. So they sent him to prison. Some time later my teach was at the prison and saw the guy and asked him how things were going. I think it had been at most a month and the guy said he had been raped 4 or 5 times.

according to six people, who didn't understand manaslaughter, it didn't fit

six other people may have found differently

manslaughter: The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


it was Zs act that killed Treyvon,,,


Excusable homicide.—Homicide is excusable when committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent, or by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, without any dangerous weapon being used and not done in a cruel or unusual manner.



it wasn't an accident to pull and fire a gun, the 'usual caution' is subjective,,

usual caution to many people, when in a fight, is to fight back,, not to shoot,,,

intent is also subjective, was it lawful to stalk and try to accost someone? if that's what happened?

(and that is what fits the testimony of the ear witness who heard the scuffling AFTER the adult asked the kid what he was doing there and who heard the kid saying get off of me AND of the eye witness who saw two people tussling VERTICALLY, not one person suddenly being sucker punched and falling)

nothing about this was sudden as Z pursued the victim, and escalated the situation in a convrontation,,,,


and obviously,, WITHOUT ANY DANGEROUS WEAPON,, is not a condition that was met,,,

in jail? after being pursued by an adult with a gun? because he busted his nose?,,,Im doubting that,,,,