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Topic: Stop Inulting Zimmerman Jury
Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/17/13 07:51 PM


"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,,

not nearly as heinous

but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,,"



George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin.

Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes?

Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this.
He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense.

Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense.

People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it.


guess it depends upon if you believe Zimmerman,, I Watched the trial EVERYDAY,, its on at our job,,, I listened to both prosecueion and defense witness describe a situation where Z was the stalker and instigator ( from the phone witness account of ts description of being followed by a creepy cracker, by his account of trying to lose the creepy cracker a couple times, including running once, of him being unsuccessful in getting rid of him , of him turning around when this man was 'right behind' him and asking why he was being followed and then of the man (instead of defusing the situation by answering a very reasonable question) becoming combative instead by asking HIM why he was there and grabbing him , t saying to get off o f him,,,,,and then by the DEFENSE attorney who lived right there saying he also SAW a vertical TUSSEL,, as opposed to a man stumbling backwards after some alleged sucker punch....)

both sides testimonies dispute the idea that this started from some wild ATTACK by this boy,, but the jury and people like yourself I guess find zs story of the innocent citizen being attacked by the 17 year old viscious kid more believable)


the evidence also didn't prove a level of a fight that would warrant deadly force,,, in my opinion,, the man just couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag and panicked,,,,,,the gun was an easy go to

he suffered a not so uncommon broken nose which happens in fights,,,and his head had injuries consistent with 'impacting' pavement, which wouldn't be unusual for a fight that was on pavement,,,not evidence at all of anyone SLAMMING His head into anything,,


as I will continue to say,, oh well, karma sometimes cleans up messes that 'justice' turns a blind eye to....


You watched the trial with bias. Anyone watching the trial with an open mind knew the case was lost starting with the first witness, hell even Martin SUPPORTERS knew halfway through the trial there would be no conviction, but you just get on something and don't listen to reason and ignore the evidence as usual.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/17/13 07:52 PM

Home invasions have ceased in that neighborhood.

Saving many lives.

On the other hand, this won't help pass Hussein's Amnesty bill. What with Hispanics poppin cap on a feral a$$ .


Burglaries are down too. Maybe that's because one of the local burglars is now dead................

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/17/13 07:53 PM

What about Bradley Manning, the young hero who exposed the atrocities permitted by this administration on the citizens of foreign countries who is being persecuted quietly while the DOJ and Obozo keep the racial fires burning over this circus?

Where is the media, the outrage, the good people so upset with injustice?

What a joke!

Scream injustice for a violent banger and sleep while a hero is being persecuted!

How proud you all must be of yourselves!


I am very proud of myself thank you. Who cares about a traitor who should be EXECUTED.

willing2's photo
Wed 07/17/13 07:58 PM
His girlfriend couldn't remember the number for 911.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/17/13 08:08 PM

His girlfriend couldn't remember the number for 911.


Must have been from the drugs she did with Trevon.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/17/13 11:40 PM


why not start a thread and discuss what you want to discuss about Bradely Manning, instead of whining about people choosing to discuss this topic,,,?



rofl I'm the one who's whining? slaphead



yes, so far interrupted nearly six threads because people aren't choosing to discuss what you want to discuss,,,,

id say the shoe fits,,,,thank goodness I started a thread for ya though,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/17/13 11:44 PM



"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,,

not nearly as heinous

but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,,"



George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin.

Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes?

Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this.
He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense.

Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense.

People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it.


guess it depends upon if you believe Zimmerman,, I Watched the trial EVERYDAY,, its on at our job,,, I listened to both prosecueion and defense witness describe a situation where Z was the stalker and instigator ( from the phone witness account of ts description of being followed by a creepy cracker, by his account of trying to lose the creepy cracker a couple times, including running once, of him being unsuccessful in getting rid of him , of him turning around when this man was 'right behind' him and asking why he was being followed and then of the man (instead of defusing the situation by answering a very reasonable question) becoming combative instead by asking HIM why he was there and grabbing him , t saying to get off o f him,,,,,and then by the DEFENSE attorney who lived right there saying he also SAW a vertical TUSSEL,, as opposed to a man stumbling backwards after some alleged sucker punch....)

both sides testimonies dispute the idea that this started from some wild ATTACK by this boy,, but the jury and people like yourself I guess find zs story of the innocent citizen being attacked by the 17 year old viscious kid more believable)


the evidence also didn't prove a level of a fight that would warrant deadly force,,, in my opinion,, the man just couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag and panicked,,,,,,the gun was an easy go to

he suffered a not so uncommon broken nose which happens in fights,,,and his head had injuries consistent with 'impacting' pavement, which wouldn't be unusual for a fight that was on pavement,,,not evidence at all of anyone SLAMMING His head into anything,,


as I will continue to say,, oh well, karma sometimes cleans up messes that 'justice' turns a blind eye to....


You watched the trial with bias. Anyone watching the trial with an open mind knew the case was lost starting with the first witness, hell even Martin SUPPORTERS knew halfway through the trial there would be no conviction, but you just get on something and don't listen to reason and ignore the evidence as usual.



the case was 'lost' because of the expert forensic witness who looked at pictures and concluded they 'could' have resulted from having ones head slammed on concrete

and because WEst was successful in getting the court to refuse to give instruction regarding the 'initial aggressor',,,,(look it up)


I actually had some HOPE the jurors would see through the courtroom gimmickry and selective word choice to come back with a proper manslaughter conviction,, but I was wrong,,,
those were two moments that lost the case,,,,,,

willing2's photo
Thu 07/18/13 06:06 AM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 07/18/13 06:12 AM
They had the wrong people in charge.

They should have hired the Whitey haters to convict him.

If they didn't like the verdict, they could have assassinated him in the courtroom.

Haters lost. Git over it. laugh


Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/19/13 04:02 PM




"it has one,, someone got away with hunting down and murdering a child,,,

not nearly as heinous

but jury was just as capable this week of getting it wrong as they were then,,,,"



George Zimmerman didn't "hunt down and murder" Treyvon Martin.

Have you even been paying attention to the details of Zimmerman's self defense and the testimony tapes?

Treyvon Martin was not an innocent little angel in this.
He attacked George Zimmerman while he was on his way back to his car to wait for the police and beat him down to the point where George Zimmerman had that reasonable fear of imminent bodily harm or death and shot Treyvon Martin in self defense.

Treyvon Martin is not alive to tell his side of the story so you have to go based on George Zimmerman's testimony as well as other witnesses and the evidence which by the way supports George Zimmerman's self defense.

People keep trying to paint George Zimmerman as this evil murderer when the facts do not support it.


guess it depends upon if you believe Zimmerman,, I Watched the trial EVERYDAY,, its on at our job,,, I listened to both prosecueion and defense witness describe a situation where Z was the stalker and instigator ( from the phone witness account of ts description of being followed by a creepy cracker, by his account of trying to lose the creepy cracker a couple times, including running once, of him being unsuccessful in getting rid of him , of him turning around when this man was 'right behind' him and asking why he was being followed and then of the man (instead of defusing the situation by answering a very reasonable question) becoming combative instead by asking HIM why he was there and grabbing him , t saying to get off o f him,,,,,and then by the DEFENSE attorney who lived right there saying he also SAW a vertical TUSSEL,, as opposed to a man stumbling backwards after some alleged sucker punch....)

both sides testimonies dispute the idea that this started from some wild ATTACK by this boy,, but the jury and people like yourself I guess find zs story of the innocent citizen being attacked by the 17 year old viscious kid more believable)


the evidence also didn't prove a level of a fight that would warrant deadly force,,, in my opinion,, the man just couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag and panicked,,,,,,the gun was an easy go to

he suffered a not so uncommon broken nose which happens in fights,,,and his head had injuries consistent with 'impacting' pavement, which wouldn't be unusual for a fight that was on pavement,,,not evidence at all of anyone SLAMMING His head into anything,,


as I will continue to say,, oh well, karma sometimes cleans up messes that 'justice' turns a blind eye to....


You watched the trial with bias. Anyone watching the trial with an open mind knew the case was lost starting with the first witness, hell even Martin SUPPORTERS knew halfway through the trial there would be no conviction, but you just get on something and don't listen to reason and ignore the evidence as usual.



the case was 'lost' because of the expert forensic witness who looked at pictures and concluded they 'could' have resulted from having ones head slammed on concrete

and because WEst was successful in getting the court to refuse to give instruction regarding the 'initial aggressor',,,,(look it up)


I actually had some HOPE the jurors would see through the courtroom gimmickry and selective word choice to come back with a proper manslaughter conviction,, but I was wrong,,,
those were two moments that lost the case,,,,,,


No, the case was lost because it was a BS case to begin with not to mention and eye witness who saw the altercation and say Martin on top of Zimmerman using MMA style techniques his exact words were "Ground and Pound"

Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/19/13 04:04 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 07/19/13 04:05 PM

They had the wrong people in charge.

They should have hired the Whitey haters to convict him.

If they didn't like the verdict, they could have assassinated him in the courtroom.

Haters lost. Git over it. laugh




Do you know what the #1 killer of young African American males is? Another African American. To put a number on it it is 94% of their deaths are from another African American. Why isn't the Bsrry, the NAACP, Uncle Jesse or the Dishonorable Al Sharpton going after that? Why do they waste ALL their time with a small 2%?

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/20/13 01:47 AM


They had the wrong people in charge.

They should have hired the Whitey haters to convict him.

If they didn't like the verdict, they could have assassinated him in the courtroom.

Haters lost. Git over it. laugh




Do you know what the #1 killer of young African American males is? Another African American. To put a number on it it is 94% of their deaths are from another African American. Why isn't the Bsrry, the NAACP, Uncle Jesse or the Dishonorable Al Sharpton going after that? Why do they waste ALL their time with a small 2%?



the same reason so much focus was given to Nicole simpson,, although 86% of whites are killed by other whites,,

because those numbers are irrelevant to the criminality of a SPECIFIC case,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 07/20/13 02:13 AM
Attorney General Eric Holder has confiscated George Zimmerman’s gun. Even though Mr. Zimmerman was acquitted by a jury in the death of Trayvon Martin, the Justice Department on Thursday ordered the Sanford police to put a hold on the evidence from the trial, which includes the Kel Tek 9mm handgun.

It is not clear what federal law or legal procedure allows Mr. Holder to stop a police chief in Florida from returning a firearm to an innocent man.



The federal government has the power to infringe on Second Amendment rights only when a person falls into the categories of prohibited people, which includes felons, dangerously mentally ill and domestic abusers.

There is no reasonable cause for the Justice Department to hold the evidence, since it has already been examined, given a DNA test and used in trial. What more can the federal government find out from holding Mr. Zimmerman’s gun?

And the investigation that Mr. Holder is pursuing — whether this was a racially-based civil rights case — has nothing to do with the weapon used.

The attorney general’s insistence on finding some link to race is also unrelated to facts. The FBI, prosecutor, police and jury have all said that race played no role in the events of the night that Mr. Martin was killed.

Mr. Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, told ABC News that his client wears a protective vest in public and needs a gun to defend himself in aftermath of the controversial trial.

Asked about Mr. Zimmerman getting a weapon, the lawyer said, that there is “more reason now, isn’t there? There are a lot of people out there who actually hate him, though they shouldn’t.”



There is nothing stopping Mr. Zimmerman from passing a FBI background check to buy a new firearm — and perhaps he has done so already.

But Mr. Holder’s stunt is a violation of Mr. Zimmerman’s Fourth Amendment right to be free of unreasonable seizures as well as his Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

In his transparent effort to fan the flames of racial divide, Mr. Holder is stomping all over the Constitution.

The chief law enforcement officer in the nation should stop pursuing the Obama administration’s political agenda at the expense of an innocent man who was forced to take a life in self defense.

Mr. Holder, return Mr. Zimmerman’s gun to him immediately

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/18/eric-holder-steals-zimmermans-gun/

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/20/13 02:24 AM
daddy can make sure he gets another

in spite of having restraining orders filed from a previous relationship

and past assault on a cop

and the now taking of an unarmed minors life,,,

,,,,hard for me to cry for him over this one weapon,,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 07/20/13 02:33 AM

daddy can make sure he gets another

in spite of having restraining orders filed from a previous relationship

and past assault on a cop

and the now taking of an unarmed minors life,,,

,,,,hard for me to cry for him over this one weapon,,,,,
Let it go before it is eating you up!

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/20/13 10:39 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 07/20/13 10:40 AM
I will post on it as long as others do,,,,


it doesn't have to be 'eating' me up to continue participating in a thread about it,,,


perhaps others should 'let go' of the idea that taking participation in a social thread on a topic implies that one doesn't take interest in any other things or topics,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 07/20/13 01:57 PM

Burglaries are down too. Maybe that's because one of the local burglars is now dead................


Now, that second sentence is a ludicrous claim with no evidence to support it. whoa

metalwing's photo
Sat 07/20/13 03:51 PM


Burglaries are down too. Maybe that's because one of the local burglars is now dead................


Now, that second sentence is a ludicrous claim with no evidence to support it. whoa


It works pretty well as satire.

adj4u's photo
Sat 07/20/13 04:44 PM



lol,, ok

I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,,

if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off

after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,,

which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,,



why didn't Martin call the Police about being "stalked"?
He did have a functioning Cellphone after al!



why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to

perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,,




this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs
if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time
to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult

if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just
went were he was going none of his would have happened

msharmony's photo
Sun 07/21/13 05:02 AM




lol,, ok

I just hope you are never in a situation where someone follows you,, (First in a car and then on foot) while you are walking alone at night,,,let alone has the gall to question YOu about your behavior before attempting to grab you,,,,

if treyvon had killed Zimmerman, he could have gotten off with self defense too as long as z still got a shot off

after all, who WOULDNT fight an armed stalker who had confronted him? then his 'being on top' would be irrelevant, and proving beyond a doubt what initiated the fight would be all about whatever treyvon claimed,,,,,

which would align with the evidence of z himself admitting to following him , being heard calling him a fing punk , and being irritated that he might get away, and then having a BULLET HOLE in martin,,, Im sure the evidence could easily back up treyvon when he said he was fighting in 'self defense',,,,,



why didn't Martin call the Police about being "stalked"?
He did have a functioning Cellphone after al!



why didn't the grown man and watch 'captain' follow someone at night...? both against neighborhood watch policy and instructed by police not to

perhaps the boy didnt think anyone would respond to someone 'following' him as illegal or an emergency,,,,apparently he was right,,,,




this so called boy has a has filled with violence and drugs
if he would have been charged had the police shown up in time
to stop martins attack he would have been on trial as an adult

if martain would no have wanted to be confrontational and just
went were he was going none of his would have happened


and you know this how?

he smoked weed and he got in a fight at school? that made him what exactly? other than a teen who had a school fight and smoked weed?

what CRIMES had he been convicted of? how old was he making these poor choices?

didn't the GROWN man have a restraining order from a past girlfriend? hadn't he put his hands on even a COP for trying to arrest his friend for being drunk?

yet, gullible people believe he was merely minding his business and walking back to his car when this teen trying to get home to a basketball game,, just vicsiously attacked him,,,


Martin did TRY to get home repeatedly, but kept noticing some weirdo following him,, I wouldn't lead him to where I lived either,,,,,


as IVe said,, whatever helps people sleep at night...

Toodygirl5's photo
Sun 07/21/13 05:33 AM


Burglaries are down too. Maybe that's because one of the local burglars is now dead................


Now, that second sentence is a ludicrous claim with no evidence to support it. whoa


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