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Restraining orders are SOMETIMES placed on innocent men AND women...A simple DNA proves paternity  ...When a restraining order is placed because a complaint has been filed, it is always placed as a TEMPORARY restraining order for thirty days OR until it is heard by a judge at which time both parties present their case and a judge decides merit OR until it expires and must be re-filed...There is expense to both parties with respect to filing one or fighting one...Lastly, if it is proven that a person has filed a false report consequences imposed by the court are separate and apart from any judgement the person falsely accused might be awarded if that person "decided" to file a civil lawsuit....Two different animals sugar plum....
And lets not forget that all of this BS falls under the heading of "It takes two to Tango"...If both people are nut cases they would/could face some of the problems you are using to excuse commitment phobia...If both people are reasonable, mature, responsible adults, breakups/disagreements usually don't escalate to the extremes you are talking about... 
But, that's just it. It doesn't "take two to tango." The man I mentioned took a woman and her children into his home and was repaid with a restraining order. He'd done nothing except try to help this woman. But, it's just an example and beside the point. The question is, what's to be gained by moving a relationship along? We've covered security and come to the conclusion it's an illusion. Is there something else to be gained? The reason you are not "getting" the answer you want is because what is gained or lost in terms of moving a relationship along is unique to each and every individual, each and every relationship....There are a myriad of reason why men and women want what they want, need what they need...The only constant I have been able to pull from your posts is your claim that ultimately every women you get involved with poses the same question to you, "Where is this relationship going?"...This would lead me to believe the problem is coming from you via your attitude within the framework of the relationships you enter into...Perhaps you are f*cking with their heads...Maybe you play games with people...Truth of the matter is you and the lady in question are the only ones who can answer the question because you are the only ones who have all the facts....Same principle applies to the man you mentioned, you have absolutely no way of knowing what he did or didn't do within the framework of that relationship... Surely you don't believe everything you "hear".... 
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The reason you are not "getting" the answer you want is because what is gained or lost in terms of moving a relationship along is unique to each and every individual, each and every relationship....There are a myriad of reason why men and women want what they want, need what they need...The only constant I have been able to pull from your posts is your claim that ultimately every women you get involved with poses the same question to you, "Where is this relationship going?"...This would lead me to believe the problem is coming from you via your attitude within the framework of the relationships you enter into...Perhaps you are f*cking with their heads...Maybe you play games with people...Truth of the matter is you and the lady in question are the only ones who can answer the question because you are the only ones who have all the facts....Same principle applies to the man you mentioned, you have absolutely no way of knowing what he did or didn't do within the framework of that relationship... Surely you don't believe everything you "hear"....
Once again, avoiding the question. Classic. @ GreenEyes48 The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. |
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The reason you are not "getting" the answer you want is because what is gained or lost in terms of moving a relationship along is unique to each and every individual, each and every relationship....There are a myriad of reason why men and women want what they want, need what they need...The only constant I have been able to pull from your posts is your claim that ultimately every women you get involved with poses the same question to you, "Where is this relationship going?"...This would lead me to believe the problem is coming from you via your attitude within the framework of the relationships you enter into...Perhaps you are f*cking with their heads...Maybe you play games with people...Truth of the matter is you and the lady in question are the only ones who can answer the question because you are the only ones who have all the facts....Same principle applies to the man you mentioned, you have absolutely no way of knowing what he did or didn't do within the framework of that relationship... Surely you don't believe everything you "hear"....
Once again, avoiding the question. Classic. @ GreenEyes48 The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing..... 
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The reason you are not "getting" the answer you want is because what is gained or lost in terms of moving a relationship along is unique to each and every individual, each and every relationship....There are a myriad of reason why men and women want what they want, need what they need...The only constant I have been able to pull from your posts is your claim that ultimately every women you get involved with poses the same question to you, "Where is this relationship going?"...This would lead me to believe the problem is coming from you via your attitude within the framework of the relationships you enter into...Perhaps you are f*cking with their heads...Maybe you play games with people...Truth of the matter is you and the lady in question are the only ones who can answer the question because you are the only ones who have all the facts....Same principle applies to the man you mentioned, you have absolutely no way of knowing what he did or didn't do within the framework of that relationship... Surely you don't believe everything you "hear"....
Once again, avoiding the question. Classic. @ GreenEyes48 The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. |
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I thought this was about the woman asking where the relationship was going? Now it's about her telling you to marry her or she's leaving you? Those are quite different situations. If someone is asking where the relationship is going, I don't see that as trying to push anything on the other person. It's them finding out what the other person is thinking. Giving an ultimatum to marry them or they're leaving is quite different. Though, if the woman really wants to find someone who is looking for marriage, it's probably best to find out sooner rather than later than her current boyfriend isn't interested in marriage. If they're not looking for the same thing, the relationship isn't going to work anyway. Marriage is where that question usually leads. The point is, she's unhappy with how things are and wants to take the next step. Move in together, buy a puppy, have a kid, get married, etc. I was listening to a radio show while working last night. A man had allowed his girlfriend to move into his home. She then called the police and got a restraining order on him. Now, he has to stay 100 yards away from his own house! And he has to keep paying the mortgage and utilities. This is the law! Who would open themselves up to something like that? Every step she wants to make in a relationship carries with it a price that the man has to pay. He may be willing to pay it, but she's should be willing to wait for him to decide when the time is right and not push the issue. It sounds like you're the one who isn't happy and are making excuses to push her way. Just be honest with her. You went from her wanting to know where the relationship was going, to her wanting marriage. That's a big difference. You've talked yourself into thinking it's the same thing when it may not be. You wanted other peoples' opinions here, yet when they give you their opinion, you tell them they're wrong. We can only guess what's going on and cannot tell you what she's thinking. Only she can do that. |
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Restraining orders are SOMETIMES placed on innocent men AND women...A simple DNA proves paternity ...When a restraining order is placed because a complaint has been filed, it is always placed as a TEMPORARY restraining order for thirty days OR until it is heard by a judge at which time both parties present their case and a judge decides merit OR until it expires and must be re-filed...There is expense to both parties with respect to filing one or fighting one...Lastly, if it is proven that a person has filed a false report consequences imposed by the court are separate and apart from any judgement the person falsely accused might be awarded if that person "decided" to file a civil lawsuit....Two different animals sugar plum....
And lets not forget that all of this BS falls under the heading of "It takes two to Tango"...If both people are nut cases they would/could face some of the problems you are using to excuse commitment phobia...If both people are reasonable, mature, responsible adults, breakups/disagreements usually don't escalate to the extremes you are talking about...
But, that's just it. It doesn't "take two to tango." The man I mentioned took a woman and her children into his home and was repaid with a restraining order. He'd done nothing except try to help this woman. But, it's just an example and beside the point. The question is, what's to be gained by moving a relationship along? We've covered security and come to the conclusion it's an illusion. Is there something else to be gained? What was the restraining order for? What happened to cause that? |
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misogyny
noun hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. I defiantly mistrust women. So, I suppose I am a misogynist. However, I also love women. It's because I love them so much that I've allowed myself to be manipulated by them in the past. I don't do that anymore. But, I think it's fair to say many women mistrust men as well. |
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misogyny noun hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. I defiantly mistrust women. So, I suppose I am a misogynist. However, I also love women. It's because I love them so much that I've allowed myself to be manipulated by them in the past. I don't do that anymore. But, I think it's fair to say many women mistrust men as well. This is your best post to date!!    
You say you don't allow yourself to be manipulated any longer, how do you prevent it?...I think the answer to your question lies there....Something you are doing or not doing within the relationships is causing your partner(s) to push for validation... |
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. |
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. Thanks for your opin Wux...but you're too late, he already admitted to being one...AND FYI, I was not commenting on the pole dancing comment.....Don't invest your life savings on start up costs
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just curious, why is a vertical pole debasing but a horizontal pole is olympian?
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Sun 10/21/12 09:43 AM
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. Thanks for your opin Wux...but you're too late, he already admitted to being one...AND FYI, I was not commenting on the pole dancing comment.....Don't invest your life savings on start up costs
Jesus... first I misread your post, I read 'don`t invest in your life, save the start-up costs.' Hehe. That would have been even more appropriate, from the sounds of it (proof: this is the first of my many posts in this thread that made anyone acknowledge I exist.) |
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just curious, why is a vertical pole debasing but a horizontal pole is olympian? Has to do with age and level of excitement. I was dating a woman for a long time, she was not the most beautiful lady in town... but she was a physician. My psychiatrist never new, because the lady asked for utmost privacy. But the two lived on the same street and he figured it out. He said to me at the time, ''Apafej, to take that lady to bed was an Olympic achievement already ten years ago.'' So: level of excitiment... orientation of pole... Olympic achievment... You do the math. |
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. Thanks for your opin Wux...but you're too late, he already admitted to being one...AND FYI, I was not commenting on the pole dancing comment.....Don't invest your life savings on start up costs
Jesus... first I misread your post, I read 'don`t invest in your life, save the start-up costs.' Hehe. That would have been even more appropriate, from the sounds of it (proof: this is the first of my many posts in this thread that made anyone acknowledge I exist.) I don't care how many times you take the Lord's name in vain, I'm not buying your BS Wux..... 
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. Thanks for your opin Wux...but you're too late, he already admitted to being one...AND FYI, I was not commenting on the pole dancing comment.....Don't invest your life savings on start up costs
Jesus... first I misread your post, I read 'don`t invest in your life, save the start-up costs.' Hehe. That would have been even more appropriate, from the sounds of it (proof: this is the first of my many posts in this thread that made anyone acknowledge I exist.) I don't care how many times you take the Lord's name in vain, I'm not buying your BS Wux.....
You are not... buying? But look at the quality!! The consistency!! The workmanship that went into it!! And all that food... |
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....but wait...thats not all...
oh man, how awesome it would be to have that 'job' endless royalties, minimal work hours, and anonymity,,,,lol |
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. Thanks for your opin Wux...but you're too late, he already admitted to being one...AND FYI, I was not commenting on the pole dancing comment.....Don't invest your life savings on start up costs
Jesus... first I misread your post, I read 'don`t invest in your life, save the start-up costs.' Hehe. That would have been even more appropriate, from the sounds of it (proof: this is the first of my many posts in this thread that made anyone acknowledge I exist.) I don't care how many times you take the Lord's name in vain, I'm not buying your BS Wux.....
You are not... buying? But look at the quality!! The consistency!! The workmanship that went into it!! And all that food... Not even if you give it away  ...Wait a "gosh darn" minute, you are giving it away!!  You have ALWAYS given it away, haven't you Wuxmillian!!?!!??
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The battle of the sexes is over and the men won. We won the moment women started doing pole dancing for exercise. Careful, your misogyny is showing.....
I think the guy can be charged with sarcasm in this case, but not with mysogyny... he was trying to point you ladies to the fact that with pole dancing as a form of exercise women are themselves turning mysogynists. In a sort of self-reflective way they debase themselves for men, even without being asked for it, on their own initiative, AND now as a sport. I could start a business translating from Menian to Womenian. I believe you are incorrect here. The fact that a restraining order and rape (pushed sex) has been brought into the conversation shows that there is misogyny present. It is pretty much everywhere with men because religion teaches it, society teaches it and even women teach it unknowingly to their sons. If a man believes that women can be sluts he is a misogynist, if he believes they are gold diggers he is a misogynist, if he only "loves" them for how they look on his arm and what they do for him he is a misogynist, etc... Reason being that if a man does the same things, he is not called those same names by other men. Misogyny And the OP, no offense intended, wants validation of his resistance to commitment from others, that is reason for this post. He has the right to resist it, no question. Just as she has the right to require it and leave if not provided. |
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That is a issue for people who just want to date with no strings attached. Sooner or later they want to know where it is going. I have become really good at making a noose.
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misogyny noun hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. I defiantly mistrust women. So, I suppose I am a misogynist. However, I also love women. It's because I love them so much that I've allowed myself to be manipulated by them in the past. I don't do that anymore. But, I think it's fair to say many women mistrust men as well. Agreed that many women mistrust men as I am one of them. Its not because they broke my heart as I am colder than most men. Its the abuse. Its because they have better upper body strength that they feel they can hit a woman as they please; even from behind as was in my case. Then you have the mental abuse and verbal abuse that men are so great at doing. Why put myself through that? May as well throw myself under a bus rather than putting myself through that kind of crap. I will add that I will never turn my back on any man again or even let a man walk behind me because they are unpredictable. |
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