Topic: Ain't No Homo Gonna Make It To Heaven...
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Fri 06/01/12 05:53 AM


they believe something different from you, and who is to say that they are right or wrong? they do not deserve respect for their beliefs, like you deserve for what you believe? however sick you think it is, thats how sick they think being gay is.


No, they do not deserve respect for their beliefs. Nor does anyone have to respect mine. In this country we are only legally required to allow them to express and practice their religious beliefs. And I have the right to publicly say they are sick and wrong.

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Fri 06/01/12 06:22 AM



they believe something different from you, and who is to say that they are right or wrong? they do not deserve respect for their beliefs, like you deserve for what you believe? however sick you think it is, thats how sick they think being gay is.


No, they do not deserve respect for their beliefs. Nor does anyone have to respect mine. In this country we are only legally required to allow them to express and practice their religious beliefs. And I have the right to publicly say they are sick and wrong.

i see... so your right, and they are wrong... glad you clarified that for me... maybe you start a war or a fight over it, since you are so right. but you are a hypocrite, since you seem to think everyone has rights except for those you don't agree with...

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Fri 06/01/12 06:34 AM




they believe something different from you, and who is to say that they are right or wrong? they do not deserve respect for their beliefs, like you deserve for what you believe? however sick you think it is, thats how sick they think being gay is.


No, they do not deserve respect for their beliefs. Nor does anyone have to respect mine. In this country we are only legally required to allow them to express and practice their religious beliefs. And I have the right to publicly say they are sick and wrong.

i see... so your right, and they are wrong... glad you clarified that for me... maybe you start a war or a fight over it, since you are so right. but you are a hypocrite, since you seem to think everyone has rights except for those you don't agree with...


Where's the respect for her beliefs???


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Fri 06/01/12 06:46 AM





they believe something different from you, and who is to say that they are right or wrong? they do not deserve respect for their beliefs, like you deserve for what you believe? however sick you think it is, thats how sick they think being gay is.


No, they do not deserve respect for their beliefs. Nor does anyone have to respect mine. In this country we are only legally required to allow them to express and practice their religious beliefs. And I have the right to publicly say they are sick and wrong.

i see... so your right, and they are wrong... glad you clarified that for me... maybe you start a war or a fight over it, since you are so right. but you are a hypocrite, since you seem to think everyone has rights except for those you don't agree with...


Where's the respect for her beliefs???


i never said she was right or wrong, just a hypocrite... but read the post she responded to, and there is your answer.

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Fri 06/01/12 06:51 AM






they believe something different from you, and who is to say that they are right or wrong? they do not deserve respect for their beliefs, like you deserve for what you believe? however sick you think it is, thats how sick they think being gay is.


No, they do not deserve respect for their beliefs. Nor does anyone have to respect mine. In this country we are only legally required to allow them to express and practice their religious beliefs. And I have the right to publicly say they are sick and wrong.

i see... so your right, and they are wrong... glad you clarified that for me... maybe you start a war or a fight over it, since you are so right. but you are a hypocrite, since you seem to think everyone has rights except for those you don't agree with...


Where's the respect for her beliefs???


i never said she was right or wrong, just a hypocrite... but read the post she responded to, and there is your answer.


She didn't ask for, nor demand respect.

"Respect" was your idea, so that makes you the hypocrite for not respecting her beliefs...


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Fri 06/01/12 08:27 AM


...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!


Hate comes natural, it doesn't have to be taught.

I abhor the message and behavior of the people, but I fall on the side of freedom.

The way I see it is this: It's always better to know how people really feel, so that you can be more selective about who you associate with.


I respectfully disagree...
children are not born with hate in their hearts...NO!

We, the all knowing adults in their lives TEACH hate.
This kid is what 3 or 4? He is only love and his innocence has been taken away. This little boy probably has NO idea what a 'homo' is. He has just been taught it is a fellow human that is evil.
That IS teaching hate.

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Fri 06/01/12 08:38 AM




...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!



http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2012/05/church-on-lockdown-after-toddler-sings-aint-no-homo-going-to-make-it-to-heaven/


What we have here is a straw-man argument.

No teaching of hate has been proven, just assumed.

I might disagree with what the little boy sang, but I would not claim that what he sang was motivated by hate.

When people wish to live according to the desires of their flesh, they reject anything that denies them what their flesh wants, including the teaching of a religious text.

Should anyone dare accept the teaching of that religious text, then that person will be accused of hatred even if the person has no hatred.
what about those who taught him?
Were they motivated by pure brotherly Love?


they could be motivated by what the bible SAYS
although HOMO is not a word used in the bible

(or even in existence at the time of Romans)....
you didn't answer the question!laugh

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Fri 06/01/12 09:49 AM

I respectfully disagree...
children are not born with hate in their hearts...NO!

We, the all knowing adults in their lives TEACH hate.
This kid is what 3 or 4? He is only love and his innocence has been taken away. This little boy probably has NO idea what a 'homo' is. He has just been taught it is a fellow human that is evil.
That IS teaching hate.


Hate, closed mindedness and xenophobia are major contributing factors to the survival of our species. Our societies may have outgrow their usefulness, but our genetics still make many of us naturally hate the unknown.

Not so long ago, strangers brought only new diseases or war. Most of our ancestors developed a natural closed mindedness and an aversion to strangers in order to protect our tribes. Additionally, our brains are only wired to manage close relationships with around 100 people. Another factor that limited primitive tribes in size and ensured that outsiders rarely found a warm welcome.

People who are open to strangers lack the necessary genes to protect the tribe from outsiders. Maybe you would have jeopardized the tribes survival, because you are so open to new things. Thankfully, the closed minded tribe members kept civilization alive, so that today, the norm is to be more accepting of different people and cultures.

Do you hate black people for being black? Tall people for being tall? If not, then why reject as simply wrong the naturally xenophobic people, without whom, we may not even exist today.

I'm not saying that we, as a society, need to hold onto xenophobia. I'm just saying that we need to see it for what it is, a survival trait that helped us get to this point, but is no longer as useful, rather than thinking of the xenophobic as purely wrong headed.

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Fri 06/01/12 10:00 AM


I respectfully disagree...
children are not born with hate in their hearts...NO!

We, the all knowing adults in their lives TEACH hate.
This kid is what 3 or 4? He is only love and his innocence has been taken away. This little boy probably has NO idea what a 'homo' is. He has just been taught it is a fellow human that is evil.
That IS teaching hate.


Hate, closed mindedness and xenophobia are major contributing factors to the survival of our species. Our societies may have outgrow their usefulness, but our genetics still make many of us naturally hate the unknown.

Not so long ago, strangers brought only new diseases or war. Most of our ancestors developed a natural closed mindedness and an aversion to strangers in order to protect our tribes. Additionally, our brains are only wired to manage close relationships with around 100 people. Another factor that limited primitive tribes in size and ensured that outsiders rarely found a warm welcome.

People who are open to strangers lack the necessary genes to protect the tribe from outsiders. Maybe you would have jeopardized the tribes survival, because you are so open to new things. Thankfully, the closed minded tribe members kept civilization alive, so that today, the norm is to be more accepting of different people and cultures.

Do you hate black people for being black? Tall people for being tall? If not, then why reject as simply wrong the naturally xenophobic people, without whom, we may not even exist today.

I'm not saying that we, as a society, need to hold onto xenophobia. I'm just saying that we need to see it for what it is, a survival trait that helped us get to this point, but is no longer as useful, rather than thinking of the xenophobic as purely wrong headed.


I hear ya.
I don't believe hate is natural, it is easier though, for some.

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Fri 06/01/12 10:18 AM


...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!


Hate comes natural, it doesn't have to be taught.

I abhor the message and behavior of the people, but I fall on the side of freedom.

The way I see it is this: It's always better to know how people really feel, so that you can be more selective about who you associate with.


I disagree with this as well. Children learn hatred from their role models.

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Fri 06/01/12 10:25 AM
Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.

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Fri 06/01/12 10:40 AM
You can disagree, spider. However, from what I've seen, children are taught to hate. Many learn it from their parents.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 06/01/12 10:40 AM

Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.


Can we just disagree or do we HAVE to be "wrong?" laugh


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Fri 06/01/12 10:43 AM



...sings a little boy at church and gets a standing ovation.

Awwww, ain't it cute to teach hate!!!


Hate comes natural, it doesn't have to be taught.

I abhor the message and behavior of the people, but I fall on the side of freedom.

The way I see it is this: It's always better to know how people really feel, so that you can be more selective about who you associate with.


I respectfully disagree...
children are not born with hate in their hearts...NO!

We, the all knowing adults in their lives TEACH hate.
This kid is what 3 or 4? He is only love and his innocence has been taken away. This little boy probably has NO idea what a 'homo' is. He has just been taught it is a fellow human that is evil.
That IS teaching hate.


There is no such thing as a bad Child, only bad parents.

Hate is not a natural emotion it is learned and mostly taught.

Love is a natural emotion...Love is a good thing.

The child in question more that likely hasn't a clue what homo means.

He thinks it's funny because the Air-Headed adults laugh.

What is really scary is the adults reaction in that video..

An individual that is homophobic is bad enough

but when there is a group gathered in the name of religion.. .....speechless


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Fri 06/01/12 10:44 AM


Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.


Can we just disagree or do we HAVE to be "wrong?" laugh




Hate says you're wrong, love says we disagree...



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Fri 06/01/12 12:11 PM


Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.


Can we just disagree or do we HAVE to be "wrong?" laugh




Unfortunately, yes. When the facts refute a hypothesis, those who hold to that theory are simply wrong. It's nothing personal about it, everyone is wrong from time to time. The research done in this field clearly refutes the belief that you have to be taught to hate those who aren't like you.

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Fri 06/01/12 12:15 PM

You can disagree, spider. However, from what I've seen, children are taught to hate. Many learn it from their parents.


That's the nurture side and nobody is refuting that. My point is that most children don't have to be taught to reject "outsiders". Seriously, did you and Ladylid2012 go to the nicest grammar and high schools in the world? There were no cliches? There were no "outsiders" who were mistreated or avoided by most other students? Do you guys honestly think that all of that originates from the parents?

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Fri 06/01/12 12:24 PM



Respectfully, you are both wrong. Xenophobia, racism, fear of the unknown are all genetic survival traits. You can believe as you will, you can dismiss xenophobia's past benefits to society if you want.


Can we just disagree or do we HAVE to be "wrong?" laugh




Unfortunately, yes. When the facts refute a hypothesis, those who hold to that theory are simply wrong. It's nothing personal about it, everyone is wrong from time to time. The research done in this field clearly refutes the belief that you have to be taught to hate those who aren't like you.


Just because you have interpreted some information somewhere to fit into your thoughts doesn't mean it's FACT spider.

Because you believe that one of us MUST be right and one of us MUST be wrong, doesn't mean it is..

But if you must make me wrong to make yourself right, so be it.
It doesn't matter that much to me.

flowerforyou

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Fri 06/01/12 01:27 PM

Just because you have interpreted some information somewhere to fit into your thoughts doesn't mean it's FACT spider.

Because you believe that one of us MUST be right and one of us MUST be wrong, doesn't mean it is..


Science cannot prove a theory to be absolutely true, but it can prove theories to be false. The evidence shows that children naturally mistrust and are fearful of people (particularly men) of other races. Children don't have to be raised to be xenophobic, they just have to be human.


But if you must make me wrong to make yourself right, so be it.
It doesn't matter that much to me.

flowerforyou


Don't you think it's a bit disingenuous to play the "maturity card" and then offer a flower? If it didn't matter to you and if you did have philia or agape for me, wouldn't you have ended your post without the last three lines? I think so.

I'm not saying I'm right (although I am saying you are wrong), just that I'm more correct, because I'm on the side of the research.

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Fri 06/01/12 01:37 PM


Just because you have interpreted some information somewhere to fit into your thoughts doesn't mean it's FACT spider.

Because you believe that one of us MUST be right and one of us MUST be wrong, doesn't mean it is..


Science cannot prove a theory to be absolutely true, but it can prove theories to be false. The evidence shows that children naturally mistrust and are fearful of people (particularly men) of other races. Children don't have to be raised to be xenophobic, they just have to be human.


But if you must make me wrong to make yourself right, so be it.
It doesn't matter that much to me.

flowerforyou


Don't you think it's a bit disingenuous to play the "maturity card" and then offer a flower? If it didn't matter to you and if you did have philia or agape for me, wouldn't you have ended your post without the last three lines? I think so.

I'm not saying I'm right (although I am saying you are wrong), just that I'm more correct, because I'm on the side of the research.


I was trying to be nice spider...
take it for whatever you think it's worth.
I won't leave flowers anymore..k..better! whoa