SHe is correct. Everyone is different. However, just because someone my age is not interested in dating someone 20 years older, it has nothing to do with being a "late maturity bloomer." The sooner you realize that everyone is different, the better.

Oh my... does no one understand what opinion means anymore? You cannot ask for opinions and then dismiss those which do not coincide with your own. Well you can but it makes you look like an idiot. Opinions are not right or wrong they are one's own personal feelings on the subject.

Anywho, yes I think age does matter when you're old enough to be your lovers parent. Some do make it work but I think for me at least that I will stick with closer to my age than not. Maturity is a factor but it's not everything. A person can be no more mature at 60 than they were at 30 but the have GROWN as a person and learned things along the way.

Everyone is different!! Where did you miss that I, cheer up and others have said this over 50 times in this thread?

Our point is indeed that everyone is different. And everyone is entitled to be with anyone at any age. We never did get on anyone who wants to date in their own age bracket, and we never said we don't or wouldn't. We just said that there is no limit to the individual and they have the right to choose things their own way.

That's great that you see that now.

Regardless of age or maturity people are still entitled to their preferences. Having a preference does not mean one is disagreeing or judging. However, calling one a "late maturity bloomer" for not agreeing with your point of view IS judging.

An often asked question so maybe it deserves often answers. No limits in my book. The universe is so full of possibilities I would hate to be the one who shut the door only to miss out on an experience of love and companionship that might be brilliantly designed by the heavens.

We build our own walls, unfortunately sometimes we forget to put in windows.
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Now talking about things in common, I could go off on that one. I have so much more in common with likened people than I do with others, and there is no age barriers or gaps. Artsy people have a way of spanding huge age spreads and are often color blind, culture blind, money blind and age blind. We have a hunger and respect for each others gifts and beauty both in and out. I think we even look at each other as art. Putting an age limit on feelings, knowledge and love would seem very weird to my crowd.
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That's what we call stuck in the mud.
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Why do you think people think you are judgemental?
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First looks like I'll have to tell you gals what I meant by stuck in the mud. I was referring to someone who is so deep in their own thoughts about something that it is hard for them to let others express themselves without an issue being made. The other part to this would be giving advice to others and stating that they weren't willing to consider the same. To me that is being a little stuck or not able to accept or consider another view. It seems like when someone has a different view about dating the same people always jump in and build their camp. The problem comes when someone has a fresh or different idea of that situation.

I wouldn't go making a case out of something that isn't there though. I love the fact that all of you have your own views and opinions. It's what makes mingling rich. If you ever take me as someone who does not feel that way, please ask or send me an email. However where I get off the wagon is when people dog on others and try to suggest that their views are not valid or they are not aloud in someway to think the way they do, or making snotty remarks that look like they are in the wrong somehow.

Please make note that I did not say anyone was a stick in the mud. My comment was that's what we call getting stuck in the mud. Meaning not being able to bend or move.

I think I can speak for my friend cheer up and myself when I say we could care less about your personal preferences or ever wish to put you down for believing in them. I can't imagine where this thought came from or how others picked up that we would think that way. We were talking about someone putting down others rights to have a view, not your personal views and rights to them. We respect all views and were trying to state that, and hoped that these types of talks could be less judgemental and not more.

Could you ladies name a view things that makes age a difference specifically?
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If you do it might make it easier for those of us who don't care so much about it to explain why.

For example in my case, one who has traveled all their life and is deeply involved in music and business. Someone who has spent all but 6 weeks a year at times home. Someone who didn't write their first personal check for something until they were 41. Someone who kept 3 homes running at one time. Someone who got college by tutors on a bus. Someone who probably has a far different life from what many of you would call norm. How would you even have a clue to what I would need or want age wise?

You who live by the 9 to 5 sometimes have no idea that there is another huge world out there that is way outside of your thinking. People lives who run on a completely different set of values, time lines and responsibilities. A partner for many of us has nothing to do with age and everything to do with compatibility. I've met women that are 25 with way more experience than the older small town woman. I have also met 60 years olds with more open minds than teenagers. Suggesting that there is an age group for people like myself or others like me would be very limiting as we do not look for the same things in a partner.

Another example. Someone like my self literally has no time to go around in useless arguments. My partner has to be fast on her feet and be able to move quickly through lives decisions. In my wife's case she needed someone who did not get jealous and handle her being a world traveler. Neither of us had time for domestic troubles so we both had others hired to take care of the "small things". Those small things to us were probably big things for other couples.

What I'm saying is in many cases outside of norm ( what is norm) exist a world that very much deserve love but doesn't care about the same things as many others do.
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I'm happy you found what works for you and am very sorry you felt like I was attacking that in any way.
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Cool your jets little missy.
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There would only be a couple of reasons why I would not answer someone.

1 I have to catch a flight
2 I'm busy with something else
3 I sense that the other person I'm talking with just wants to argue
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You and I definately look at things from two different angles many times, but I want you to know that I respect that you have your own views. I also want you to know that because I don't agree with the way you approach people many times it has nothing to do with me not wanting you to have your own views. I think as you have said we just have different styles. I doubt if I understand yours and doubt if you understand mine.

Hopefully the more we are on the same threads we will learn each others meaning and styles and grow in respect toward each other.
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Right lol
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Amen brother man! Sometimes people who get a little age under their belts are so cynical I can barely stand to get near them. For that point alone many times makes me look at younger ones. Holy bat ringers it's nice to not have a nag at your bag. For me, once a person gets lost in cynicism they are spoiled for life like rotten fruit.
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Yes, actually I totally get it if someone wants a person their own age. I also get it when someone doesn't.

Oh, I also want to add, thanks for the example.
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Sing, see here's what cheer up is talking about. He never said he wants to date women of all ages. He is saying it doesn't matter what age he or anyone else chooses.
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Yes I did, and thank you.
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Again, right on bro!

So folks are you calling 20 year olds immature?
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And you are right, that's how it happened for you.
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And I think all we are saying is, it is different for every one. Age has nothing to do with finances. Some people it takes a while to have financial gain and others at a very young age achieve it.
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Shouldn't we all agree that it is what ever works for them and not what worked for a few. That's all I'm saying. I don't want someone to think that dating out of your age bracket (there is no such thing in my book) is a bad thing necessary.
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Yes, I hope you didn't think I was calling you a stick in the mud, cause I wasn't (heaven forbid no). I don't think your a stick in the mud at all. I was refering to some comments "Sing" made to where I thought there was a more open view to look at for those who wish to do so.
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Examples of age differences.

I may not be the norm but many of my friends have married and or dated with pretty big age differences. I'm not saying all by any means, but many. My circles of friends though range from 18 to 70 and most of the people look at each other on a level playing field both professionally and partner wise. It doesn't surprise any of us if someone hooks up at any age spread. That just is not in our mind set.

We don't think "Oh wow she's 22 I can't date her". It's more like, "oh you model I use to do that". Or "I fly to Hong Kong a lot and have a place there". Oh really "I lived there". My friends are pretty diverse and extremely open I would think, and honestly I just don't think age comes into it as far as dating or marriage goes. I can name (they wouldn't want me to cause they think me being on this site is silly) 10 couples who are friends of mine right off the top who are 20 years apart (some more). I also know a couple who have the same birth-date as me and tell folks we're all married and all twins.
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Yep, agreed! I think that was cheer ups point and certainly was mine.
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What did we learn on the show tonight Craig"?

Even though several people have different opinions on any one subject the important thing is that you get plenty of sleep after laying out your clothes for school.

Dear Craig & Jeff
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I've been watching way too much batman again haven't I.
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I don't think they would be upset with that or even disagree, because you said most. At the same time (based solely on what I've seen) I would say that most 40 year olds are struggling with maturity themselves.
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I'd like to add something here if I could.

When I make these statements there not man vs woman statements. Maturity is an equal opportunity value. And, if I can even be this bold. I think that maybe (not always) women may just mature a little faster than guys. I was always surprised that I passed up a lot of my friends in doing adult things when they were still back in diapers it seemed. I had a serious career at 17 and even though my friends were working it was about getting laid and partying. Back then and even now I see a lot of young women who really have serious goals and some are already achievers of those goals by their early and mid twenties. But, from what I've been told they just don't want to be with a boy and they don't want to wait till those boys grow up. So for those gals you can't blame them for looking at a broader market of guys.

I've also seen many gals marry these younger immature guys back in their twenties and now are forced to start all over again with a lot of baggage this time around. So I wonder what are these twenty and thirty year old gals supposed to do?
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I would always advise growing up at any age before committing to a serious partnership.
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d&m ?
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Yep! That would be a weird one I would think. Especially with guys.
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Oh don't worry I was writing this while the thread moved on already. It wasn't in response to you, it was just a thought I had.

I was wondering how folks felt about the increase of younger women seeking older guys, and how gals feel who have been stuck in the middle of their life after they found out their man was too immature to stick with their commitment.
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I couldn't imagine being in a long term trap.
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I could not agree more! And the folks that may disagree with this might be late maturity bloomers themselves. That's not a bad thing, it's just the way it might be and probably is.
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Everyone is different!! Where did you miss that I, cheer up and others have said this over 50 times in this thread?
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Our point is indeed that everyone is different. And everyone is entitled to be with anyone at any age. We never did get on anyone who wants to date in their own age bracket, and we never said we don't or wouldn't. We just said that there is no limit to the individual and they have the right to choose things their own way.

MG, you can repeat what you've written before all you want, but that does not mean you did not judge people while telling others not to judge.

Now, if you want to judge people, that's your choice. But it's hypocritical to tell others not to while you do the same thing.

LIKE HELLO LOLLL you never even read what i write dear so no sense talking to you on this subject you read, but never think what i saying and i never said i don't know your age preference it was "late 20s to mid 30s works well for me "<you said .....now you lying saying and "didn't know my actual age preference"<show me where i said this??????? lolllllllllll what i said if you think and read proper >i don't really know you that well but from what i see its narrow to not open a horizon on age group in general <thats what i said sing you really got to learn to read proper dear before you argue with lies dear but i think i done talking on your messages cause you always try to twist what people say i saw it so many times on a lot of people i think you just read it fast but it don't sink in maybe its immaturity not sure or maybe you like to make up things but its all cool i know that facts and so look up the word judge read it over few times and think ok :) and look where i used it and how and see if it fits lollllll and look up narrow too it may help you :) and look where i put it it fits lolllll so i not sure what your point is? fist it was you changed word suggestion to advice < RIGHT?????????????? sorry but to me this is immature i state a fact and told you several times why its a fact too even used dictionary to help you out lollll so i may as well give up but all i can say is think more dear :)

Hi Sing

That's fine we can start with judgemental if you want. Here are the two statements I made using judging.

"Why do you think people think you are judgemental?"

"I think I can speak for my friend cheer up and myself when I say we could care less about your personal preferences or ever wish to put you down for believing in them. I can't imagine where this thought came from or how others picked up that we would think that way. We were talking about someone putting down others rights to have a view, not your personal views and rights to them. We respect all views and were trying to state that, and hoped that these types of talks could be less judgemental and not more."

yes i agree i gave my opinion you are right :)

Hey bro!

So would you say sing just called me a hypocrite? hmmmmmm

1 to zip

And what did she call you?

your right on bro :) i could not care less who anyone dates i just think they should open up a horizon or they can be left out in alot :) and also if a person does not know another person how can they say they more immature cause of a age lollllllllll put it this way maybe the younger guy should lie uh? and say they older then they date them and say wow i like this person see they same age lol then after say oops i sorry i 20 years different i lied loll then what? its just to funny bro cheer

Sing,

On the 9th page you said "That's great that you see that now". Referring to me saying everyone is different finally and has the right to their own way.

As you can see I was saying this through the whole thread.

My opening thread statement was

"An often asked question so maybe it deserves often answers. No limits in my book. The universe is so full of possibilities I would hate to be the one who shut the door only to miss out on an experience of love and companionship that might be brilliantly designed by the heavens."

This means it's all open, no limits. This leaves about as much room for anyone to go anywhere they wish.

What I saw Cheerup saying throughout the whole thread was he is happy people have what they wish and that everyone else should have the right to the same freedom.

lolll bro i know where you coming from its logic we using she trys to twist the words around like advice and suggestion also don't accept facts also does not read proper cause said i don't know her age group she likes, even after it was one of the first things she told us lollllll and on and on i even had couple mails saying she likes to start up things but i wanted to see for myself :) but its all cool no 1 is perfect , cheers

1 to zip? Are you guys playing some sort of game the rest of us should know about?

Well, it's like if we all as a collective could have opinions and ask each other what we meant if there is a difference instead of he's wrong she's wrong type of thing, we could have views clearly made without the sense of attack. I'm not saying that's easy, but it is certainly easier when things are not twisted up. Or, if they get twisted lets straighten them up and move on.

This is why I decided to just put my whole collective of posts out there so she and anyone else could ask what I meant instead of running with attack ads.

i think everyone can date who they want by age or not by age :)but all i was trying to state :) that if a person don't talk to another cause of a age they judged that person by their age and not by who they are right?????????? thats a fact right???????????? and then why i said its narrow minded cause it is more narrow cause less age groups right???? and cause of the judge before you know a person is narrow too :) so simple it LOGIC lolll and a fact :)

Yes, it's how many zings can we make against me by twisting something I say or calling me something.

kind of fun, want to join?

now thats funny bro cheers :)