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I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such. "Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called. If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple. Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"? I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such. As long as you continue to speak like a preacher hailing Jesus Christ as your savior, you will be considered to be a Christian and saying that you are not a christian would be interpreted as you denying Christ. And I speak as no preacher. This is a forum for religious discussions. So I come and discuss my religious views on the different topics. A preacher would come in with a specific teaching he had in mind, I do not do as such. I share my personal beliefs on the different topics, just as you. So if you wish to look at me as a "preacher" the same can be said for you in your spiritual beliefs, for I am doing no different then you. Fine. You do speak like a Christian. Therefore, you are and will be regarded as one. Call me anything but late for dinner lol. Titles mean nothing to me. It's not the title that makes a person, again titles are only given to segregate different people into different groups... it's called stereotyping. |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions |
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AdventureBegins
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I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle. didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking. was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such. Your mum is God? Wow! Bet she makes the best cookies. My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life. Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father. We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father." You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world. In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense. I was going to post to this but JB said it better. However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it. Jesus is not here. Iam Jesus is here, search and you will find. Christ is here. Jesus is with the Father. Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book? "Christ" is not a name. Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior. Found a better definition of christ straight from the webster's dictionary which most people us, in the USA anyways. And this will show why we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ even though his sername is not "Christ". 1 : messiah 2 : jesus 3 : an ideal type of humanity Christ means messiah, messiah means savior. So therefore we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ, for he is our savior. Christ means Annointed One. At the time of Jesus there were yet words of the Prophets which had not come about. Therefore though he became Christ he was not yet the Messiah (all is not yet fulfilled). Ah, but he is the messiah. No, not all prophecies have yet been fulfilled, but nevertheless he is the only way to Heaven. No one will go to Heaven till all prophecies are fulfilled, but yet he is there and is the only way to Heaven when the time comes. For example - A policemen is not only a policemen when he's doing his job. He is always a policement. A fireman is not only a fireman when there is a fire, he is always a fireman. And so forth and so forth. No the examples are not fully the same, just the statement of they are even when they are not doing that job. Jesus is and always will be the messiah, not just at judgement time. There is a worm in the Apple you have presented so that a descerning person must first pick out the worm before he may consume the Apple. Christ is not a policeman. For when a man is a Prince he remains a Prince for all of his life... Yet when His father is King no more then does the Prince change and become a King. The father yet remains iam. |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions It is none of your business what I have or haven't done. You are not God, I have nothing to answer to you. |
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I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle. didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking. was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such. Your mum is God? Wow! Bet she makes the best cookies. My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life. Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father. We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father." You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world. In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense. I was going to post to this but JB said it better. However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it. Jesus is not here. Iam Jesus is here, search and you will find. Christ is here. Jesus is with the Father. Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book? "Christ" is not a name. Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior. Found a better definition of christ straight from the webster's dictionary which most people us, in the USA anyways. And this will show why we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ even though his sername is not "Christ". 1 : messiah 2 : jesus 3 : an ideal type of humanity Christ means messiah, messiah means savior. So therefore we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ, for he is our savior. Christ means Annointed One. At the time of Jesus there were yet words of the Prophets which had not come about. Therefore though he became Christ he was not yet the Messiah (all is not yet fulfilled). Ah, but he is the messiah. No, not all prophecies have yet been fulfilled, but nevertheless he is the only way to Heaven. No one will go to Heaven till all prophecies are fulfilled, but yet he is there and is the only way to Heaven when the time comes. For example - A policemen is not only a policemen when he's doing his job. He is always a policement. A fireman is not only a fireman when there is a fire, he is always a fireman. And so forth and so forth. No the examples are not fully the same, just the statement of they are even when they are not doing that job. Jesus is and always will be the messiah, not just at judgement time. There is a worm in the Apple you have presented so that a descerning person must first pick out the worm before he may consume the Apple. Christ is not a policeman. For when a man is a Prince he remains a Prince for all of his life... Yet when His father is King no more then does the Prince change and become a King. The father yet remains iam. Very true... but that was not the point. The point was, Jesus is LORD and savior all the time. It's not a seasonal job/position/stature/title/ect. He is not only savior at judgement, he is and always will be savior... or in other words he will always be Christ. |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions It is none of your business what I have or haven't done. You are not God, I have nothing to answer to you. And angels aren't necassarily "children" of God that we know of. For we know not if they were created in God's image or not. That is what makes us children of God and different then the other creations. We are made in the image of God, just as child is in the image of their parent(s). |
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And the checking "Christian" as my belief is not a lie. My belief is of a Christian, Cowboy....but if you are in this forum claiming that you aren't a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian...that is what makes it a lie is it because you want to fool Christian Women? ...and tempt them into having heathenous pre-maritial sex and then one day say...oops by the way I'm not a Christian ...but I play one on Tv and on my profile page |
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Christ is here.
Jesus is with the Father. However you have dark glasses of your own making. My light can not penetrate the thickness. Be at peace. |
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And the checking "Christian" as my belief is not a lie. My belief is of a Christian, Cowboy....but if you are in this forum claiming that you aren't a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian...that is what makes it a lie is it because you want to fool Christian Women? ...and tempt them into having heathenous pre-maritial sex and then one day say...oops by the way I'm not a Christian ...but I play one on Tv and on my profile page Again, titles such as "Christian" or any other title one wishes to take, is just that, a title. It doesn't make them who or what they are. I am not a Christian, I am a child of God. In secular terms that places me as a Christian, yes. But I myself am not specifically a "Christian".. I am a child of God. And the checking the "Christian" as my religious beliefs is not a lie. My beliefs are in Jesus, which then would be in Christianity. So what's your point? |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions It is none of your business what I have or haven't done. You are not God, I have nothing to answer to you. temper temper...next thing you know you will go into the temple and start turning over the moneychanger's tables but my point was to show you that you have not accomplish any "Works" that would show that you are a follower of Jesus and not a minion of Satan ..which explains the nonsense you are in this forum trying to pass off as being Christianity |
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Christ is here. Jesus is with the Father. However you have dark glasses of your own making. My light can not penetrate the thickness. Be at peace. Christ is here, so is Jesus. Jesus and Christ is one in the same. As again "Christ" is not a name. The meaning of the word "Christ" has been shown and explained why Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ and what makes him our Christ. Jesus is omnipresent, he is not in one location only. He is not here or there at a time. He is everywhere simultaneously. Of course he could not have been as such while he walked the Earth, for he left his glory behind and took on the FORM of a servant. He was no in the form of God when he walked among the Earth bringing us the new covenant. |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions It is none of your business what I have or haven't done. You are not God, I have nothing to answer to you. temper temper...next thing you know you will go into the temple and start turning over the moneychanger's tables but my point was to show you that you have not accomplish any "Works" that would show that you are a follower of Jesus and not a minion of Satan ..which explains the nonsense you are in this forum trying to pass off as being Christianity First off, I'm not trying to pass off as anything. Secondly, it matters none to me if you know the works I may have done or haven't done. You have absolutely nothing to do with my salvation, that is between God and I. Even if I look like some kind of monsterous heathen to you, it matters none. And there is no temper there.. was I yelling? Did I use an exclamation marks? What are you talking about? |
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Nobody created God, God has always been and will always be. God has no beginning or end, he is the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. knowledge had to existed before God.. which sort of disproves your theory that God had no beginning Why did knowledge have to exist before God? There's a couple problems with this theory, 1. there is no before God, God wasn't created. 2. Knowledge isn't something tangible, only a being possess knowledge. So for their to be knowledge, there must be something/someone that possess that knowledge. So please do explain how knowledge existed before God. CowboyGH said : if knowledge didn't exist before God...then God would have been incapable of being "all knowing" ...simply logic That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ... 
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Christ is here. Jesus is with the Father. However you have dark glasses of your own making. My light can not penetrate the thickness. Be at peace. Christ is here, so is Jesus. Jesus and Christ is one in the same. As again "Christ" is not a name. The meaning of the word "Christ" has been shown and explained why Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ and what makes him our Christ. Jesus is omnipresent, he is not in one location only. He is not here or there at a time. He is everywhere simultaneously. Of course he could not have been as such while he walked the Earth, for he left his glory behind and took on the FORM of a servant. He was no in the form of God when he walked among the Earth bringing us the new covenant. Christ is here. Jesus is not. The meaning shown on this thread as 'christ' is but to be found in the writings of christian men...(and so subject to their bias). Because I have been shown a falsness I must believe it true? I think not. True meaning of the Word Christ is 'annointed one'... Searching for Jesus in this time is to follow the many paths that lead in circles or into false paths. |
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Nobody created God, God has always been and will always be. God has no beginning or end, he is the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. knowledge had to existed before God.. which sort of disproves your theory that God had no beginning Why did knowledge have to exist before God? There's a couple problems with this theory, 1. there is no before God, God wasn't created. 2. Knowledge isn't something tangible, only a being possess knowledge. So for their to be knowledge, there must be something/someone that possess that knowledge. So please do explain how knowledge existed before God. CowboyGH said : if knowledge didn't exist before God...then God would have been incapable of being "all knowing" ...simply logic That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God ... is not true hence and all your Jesus-Word claims as well simply logic ...
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Cowboy said...
"for he left his glory behind and took on the FORM of a servant." in speaking of Jesus. Indeed there is more than one worm in the Apple you have Proffered. Jesus brought the Glory with him... and gave it to us all as Gift. That Christ might rise up. |
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Cowboy said... "for he left his glory behind and took on the FORM of a servant." in speaking of Jesus. Indeed there is more than one worm in the Apple you have Proffered. Jesus brought the Glory with him... and gave it to us all as Gift. That Christ might rise up. Jesus left HIS glory behind and gave all the glory to the father. |
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Christ is here. Jesus is with the Father. However you have dark glasses of your own making. My light can not penetrate the thickness. Be at peace. Christ is here, so is Jesus. Jesus and Christ is one in the same. As again "Christ" is not a name. The meaning of the word "Christ" has been shown and explained why Jesus is referred to as Jesus Christ and what makes him our Christ. Jesus is omnipresent, he is not in one location only. He is not here or there at a time. He is everywhere simultaneously. Of course he could not have been as such while he walked the Earth, for he left his glory behind and took on the FORM of a servant. He was no in the form of God when he walked among the Earth bringing us the new covenant. Christ is here. Jesus is not. The meaning shown on this thread as 'christ' is but to be found in the writings of christian men...(and so subject to their bias). Because I have been shown a falsness I must believe it true? I think not. True meaning of the Word Christ is 'annointed one'... Searching for Jesus in this time is to follow the many paths that lead in circles or into false paths. The meaning shown on this thread as 'christ' is but to be found in the writings of christian men Ah, but you are incorrect. The meaning of "christ" shown here is from the Webster Dictionary, which is not associated with any particular religious belief. Heck that's the dictionary the schools use. |
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Nobody created God, God has always been and will always be. God has no beginning or end, he is the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. knowledge had to existed before God.. which sort of disproves your theory that God had no beginning Why did knowledge have to exist before God? There's a couple problems with this theory, 1. there is no before God, God wasn't created. 2. Knowledge isn't something tangible, only a being possess knowledge. So for their to be knowledge, there must be something/someone that possess that knowledge. So please do explain how knowledge existed before God. CowboyGH said : if knowledge didn't exist before God...then God would have been incapable of being "all knowing" ...simply logic That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ...
Wow!!! Just noticed what it says I said in this quote eg., Cowboy Said.... I did not say that. God has always been, there is no before God, therefore there would be no knowledge before God. Don't know who originally posted that quote, but I would really appreciate people not lying about what other's have said while discussing. |
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No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child. Cowboy...you are also an adult (perhaps?) and not a child ...also aren't angels the "sons of god" but anyway my question is what makes you any different than Satan....you are suppose to show Faith in Works....so exactly what Works have you done that proves you are not one of Satan's minions It is none of your business what I have or haven't done. You are not God, I have nothing to answer to you. temper temper...next thing you know you will go into the temple and start turning over the moneychanger's tables but my point was to show you that you have not accomplish any "Works" that would show that you are a follower of Jesus and not a minion of Satan ..which explains the nonsense you are in this forum trying to pass off as being Christianity First off, I'm not trying to pass off as anything. Secondly, it matters none to me if you know the works I may have done or haven't done. You have absolutely nothing to do with my salvation, that is between God and I. Even if I look like some kind of monsterous heathen to you, it matters none. And there is no temper there.. was I yelling? Did I use an exclamation marks? What are you talking about? when I asked you a question that you can't "Google cut and paste" an answer for you generally fly off the handle...... but that you have no "Works" to show was the only point I was trying to make since you were in the forum preaching about how you are so obedience to Jesus .....but yet have done nothing to show it in "Works" ... |
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