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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/10/12 08:48 PM



Cowboys Questions/Statments.

Question.
"Please give a verse that says Jesus is with "God".
Answer: I need not quote such a verse as you request I have spoken it... so it is.

Question.
"Please give a verse(s) that support this as well, specifically "the Word". Cause I know the Holy Spirit is in me, but give a verse that specicifally "The Word" is in me, or that we are "the Word".
"
Sir I did give a verse that so stated.


You are Flesh.

the Word is in You.

therefore the Word is made Flesh... for all eternity it is within each of us (in our measure).

Cowboy's statement...
"You have a good theory here. Only problem is man was walking this Earth before the Word became flesh. "

Aye it became flesh by the Lamb of God (and the Advent of Christ)...
Yet was the Word, before was man.

For the Word was before the begining of Creation...

And man came not with the Word but by its utterance on the 6th day.







Cowboys Questions/Statments.

Question.
"Please give a verse that says Jesus is with "God".
Answer: I need not quote such a verse as you request I have spoken it... so it is.

Question.
"Please give a verse(s) that support this as well, specifically "the Word". Cause I know the Holy Spirit is in me, but give a verse that specicifally "The Word" is in me, or that we are "the Word".
"
Sir I did give a verse that so stated.


Jesus is God-

- Isaiah 41:13
13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

- Luke 4:12
12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

And many other verses say it as well. Thy God... Your God.


Aye it became flesh by the Lamb of God (and the Advent of Christ)...
Yet was the Word, before was man.

For the Word was before the begining of Creation...

And man came not with the Word but by its utterance on the 6th day.


Yes the "Word" was before man's creation. The "Word" was involved in the creation of man eg., "LORD God".

So you again quote something you understand not.
In my manny postings to you I have said also the same things (in but differing language and you quote me not... Though you quote the Book of Christ as if its pages are bare to you in such a way as to confuse others.

I will put it another way.

Christ is ascended.

Jesus is not the Word nor is Jesus God.

I have written it.

It is truth.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).



My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).


Jesus is not in the scripters or the "bible". The knowledge of Jesus is there, but Jesus himself can not be found in the bible. The knowledge of how to get to Jesus is in the bible, then you take that knowledge and walk to Jesus. Then once you find Jesus, he will remain by your side for all eternity or until you wish to turn away from him. But God will never turn away from you nor forsake you. When one finds God, there is no separating the two but by the will of the person.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 04/10/12 09:28 PM
Cowboy you have missed my point. (indeed you have made it by you words).

You mention many places where you think is Jesus. It is as if you pursue the Son of God in the Deserts, and again in the Mountains, you claim to have seen him in the time of Adam and again place him where he is not.

I will say it again.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).

Jesus is not.

Christ has Ascended.



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Tue 04/10/12 09:31 PM

Cowboy you have missed my point. (indeed you have made it by you words).

You mention many places where you think is Jesus. It is as if you pursue the Son of God in the Deserts, and again in the Mountains, you claim to have seen him in the time of Adam and again place him where he is not.

I will say it again.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).

Jesus is not.

Christ has Ascended.





Jesus is everywhere. He is not in the mountains, he is not in the desert, he is not under a rock, Jesus is not in a specific location. Jesus is omnipresnet. Jesus' "flesh" ascended into Heaven. But that does not mean that is where "he" remains.

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Tue 04/10/12 10:00 PM


Cowboy you have missed my point. (indeed you have made it by you words).

You mention many places where you think is Jesus. It is as if you pursue the Son of God in the Deserts, and again in the Mountains, you claim to have seen him in the time of Adam and again place him where he is not.

I will say it again.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).

Jesus is not.

Christ has Ascended.





Jesus is everywhere. He is not in the mountains, he is not in the desert, he is not under a rock, Jesus is not in a specific location. Jesus is omnipresnet. Jesus' "flesh" ascended into Heaven. But that does not mean that is where "he" remains.

Christ is...

Jesus is with the Father.

He is not here.

I am.

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Wed 04/11/12 05:31 AM



I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase


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Wed 04/11/12 05:41 AM



there was no before God. So there could be no knowledge that existed before God,


wow.... so God had no knowledge?....well I guess it's possible that dumb Gods do exist





???? And how exactly did you get that from what I said? I said nothing of what you said in this quote. There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God.


if no knowledge existed before God as you claim, therefore God had no knowledge...that makes him dumb ....

let's face it...the guy needed help with everything...that's why it took three of him to do one thing

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:49 AM




I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:50 AM




there was no before God. So there could be no knowledge that existed before God,


wow.... so God had no knowledge?....well I guess it's possible that dumb Gods do exist





???? And how exactly did you get that from what I said? I said nothing of what you said in this quote. There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God.


if no knowledge existed before God as you claim, therefore God had no knowledge...that makes him dumb ....

let's face it...the guy needed help with everything...that's why it took three of him to do one thing


There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God... what are you talking about?

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Wed 04/11/12 06:56 AM





I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 06:58 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 04/11/12 06:59 AM






I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.


My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.

Dan99's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:06 AM







I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.


My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


I dont know whether i should laugh at you or cry for you.

Maybe your dad could let me know which, he'll know my number.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:08 AM








I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.


My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


I dont know whether i should laugh at you or cry for you.

Maybe your dad could let me know which, he'll know my number.


Yes he does know your number, but why would he call? What's that got to do with anything in this discussion? Please stay on topic and don't drift to belitting comments that are pretty much irrelevant.

Dan99's photo
Wed 04/11/12 07:11 AM









I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.


My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


I dont know whether i should laugh at you or cry for you.

Maybe your dad could let me know which, he'll know my number.


Yes he does know your number, but why would he call? What's that got to do with anything in this discussion? Please stay on topic and don't drift to belitting comments that are pretty much irrelevant.


Ok sorry. Tell your pops i apologise too. Peace.

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Wed 04/11/12 09:10 AM


Cowboy you have missed my point. (indeed you have made it by you words).

You mention many places where you think is Jesus. It is as if you pursue the Son of God in the Deserts, and again in the Mountains, you claim to have seen him in the time of Adam and again place him where he is not.

I will say it again.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).

Jesus is not.

Christ has Ascended.





Jesus is everywhere. He is not in the mountains, he is not in the desert, he is not under a rock, Jesus is not in a specific location. Jesus is omnipresnet. Jesus' "flesh" ascended into Heaven. But that does not mean that is where "he" remains.


Actually Cowboy, you are talking about the holy spirit, not Jesus the man.

Jesus the man does not occupy this plane.

I realize that Christians say that God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are the same entity, but they should stop confusing people by calling the holy spirit "Jesus" etc.


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Wed 04/11/12 09:16 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 04/11/12 09:17 AM







I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.




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Wed 04/11/12 09:20 AM




I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.


AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 09:28 AM








I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam

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Wed 04/11/12 10:26 AM

I never changed that though. I am a child of God,


isn't Satan also a Child of God?...so what's the difference between you to ...a pitch fork?



YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Cowboy you claimed the title of Christian yourself when you ckecked it on your profile page that you were a Christian .......so which one is a lie....your profile page or your forum posts?




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Wed 04/11/12 10:41 AM





there was no before God. So there could be no knowledge that existed before God,


wow.... so God had no knowledge?....well I guess it's possible that dumb Gods do exist





???? And how exactly did you get that from what I said? I said nothing of what you said in this quote. There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God.


if no knowledge existed before God as you claim, therefore God had no knowledge...that makes him dumb ....

let's face it...the guy needed help with everything...that's why it took three of him to do one thing


There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God... what are you talking about?


there is a "before God"...the bible starts at Genesis 1:1 ..."before God" would start at Genesis 0:0

the bible do not deny the existence of other Gods, it just states not to place them before the one you worship

you claim that Jesus is God, but Jesus didn't have a clue the time of judgement day which means that he lacked this knowledge but yet this knowledge did exist..which is proof that knowledge existed before God


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Wed 04/11/12 11:22 AM








I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.






I don't speak symbolically. Jesus is my father, he is the one whom created me.



Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


Notice LORD God, the entire creation says God and or LORD God. When it says LORD God it specifically is referring to Jesus, the Word, our LORD.

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