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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:25 AM








I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.






I have a mission for you and will shed some more light on what I am saying here. Give me just one thing Jesus said with the terms "our Father" in them. Jesus NEVER says our father. He says his father, he does the will of his father, he will return to his father, ect.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:28 AM





I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.





Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"?

I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:29 AM









I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:30 AM
Jesus is not here...

He is with the Father.

In this time there are many things that need be done.

Jesus is with the Father (and so can not defend himself from false words).

Yet things do need to be done do they not?

Do them!

I am.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:32 AM


I never changed that though. I am a child of God,


isn't Satan also a Child of God?...so what's the difference between you to ...a pitch fork?



YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Cowboy you claimed the title of Christian yourself when you ckecked it on your profile page that you were a Christian .......so which one is a lie....your profile page or your forum posts?






No Satan is not a child of God. Satan was a creation of God, he was an angel, not a child.

And the checking "Christian" as my belief is not a lie. My belief is of a Christian, that does not make me segregated from the rest of the population, doesn't make me anything differen't then what you are. We are all still just men and women that walk this world, the titles and whatnot mean nothing. They do not make you who you are or what you are.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:33 AM










I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

Christ is here.

Jesus is with the Father.

Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book?

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:34 AM

Jesus is not here...

He is with the Father.

In this time there are many things that need be done.

Jesus is with the Father (and so can not defend himself from false words).

Yet things do need to be done do they not?

Do them!

I am.


God is not stuck to one location, God is omnipotent. Yes while Jesus left his glory in Heaven humbling himself taking on the FORM of a servant, he was not omnipresent. But when he returned with all his glory and left the form of a servant, he then was once again omnipresent through out the world.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:35 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 04/11/12 11:36 AM











I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

Christ is here.

Jesus is with the Father.

Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book?


"Christ" is not a name.

Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.

Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:39 AM
So then you hold that Jesus is God?

For indeed God is with us...

But I say unto you that Jesus is not God.

For the Word is Flesh and it is in you.

This is a truth.

Yet when you read it back to others it comes as a story of a different song than that of the Book. You have canged the melody.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:42 AM

So then you hold that Jesus is God?

For indeed God is with us...

But I say unto you that Jesus is not God.

For the Word is Flesh and it is in you.

This is a truth.

Yet when you read it back to others it comes as a story of a different song than that of the Book. You have canged the melody.


Jesus is God. If the Word is flesh and in me as you portray the meaning of the Word becoming flesh, then why did it not become flesh at the start of man? Why only after a time being did it become flesh?


For the Word is Flesh and it is in you.


So you saying the Word was not in the other people of this world before it became flesh? Why wasn't it in the creation from the start from your point of view?

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:44 AM












I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

Christ is here.

Jesus is with the Father.

Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book?


"Christ" is not a name.

Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.

Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior.


Found a better definition of christ straight from the webster's dictionary which most people us, in the USA anyways. And this will show why we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ even though his sername is not "Christ".


1

: messiah


2

: jesus


3

: an ideal type of humanity

Christ means messiah, messiah means savior. So therefore we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ, for he is our savior.


AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:50 AM


So then you hold that Jesus is God?

For indeed God is with us...

But I say unto you that Jesus is not God.

For the Word is Flesh and it is in you.

This is a truth.

Yet when you read it back to others it comes as a story of a different song than that of the Book. You have canged the melody.


Jesus is God. If the Word is flesh and in me as you portray the meaning of the Word becoming flesh, then why did it not become flesh at the start of man? Why only after a time being did it become flesh?


For the Word is Flesh and it is in you.


So you saying the Word was not in the other people of this world before it became flesh? Why wasn't it in the creation from the start from your point of view?

the Word was before Creation. Mankind new the Word yet lived seperate from it before the Advent of Christ and the Sacrefice of Jesus.

Jesus is not God the Father.

Again you have circled back to the Begining... We live not in the begining of Adam but in the Time of Glory.

Things need be done.

Jesus can not do them for he is with the Father.

Why then do you look for the Son of God upon the Earth?

The Book warns many times that you should not look for the Son of God in this time...

does it not?

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:53 AM













I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

Christ is here.

Jesus is with the Father.

Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book?


"Christ" is not a name.

Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.

Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior.


Found a better definition of christ straight from the webster's dictionary which most people us, in the USA anyways. And this will show why we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ even though his sername is not "Christ".


1

: messiah


2

: jesus


3

: an ideal type of humanity

Christ means messiah, messiah means savior. So therefore we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ, for he is our savior.



Christ means Annointed One.

At the time of Jesus there were yet words of the Prophets which had not come about.

Therefore though he became Christ he was not yet the Messiah (all is not yet fulfilled).


CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 11:56 AM














I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle.


didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself


Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking.


was you also not thinking when you claim that you are not a Christian but have on your profile that you are a Christian, and when this was pointed out you changed your post again and claim you were a Christian... it is the thousands of posts such as this in which you belittle yourself and make youself appear as a religious nutcase




I never changed that though. I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.


Your mum is God? Wow!

Bet she makes the best cookies.
Cowboy:

My father is Jesus Christ. Without him, I have no life.


Cowboy statements like that are probably what got people to thinking that Jesus the man was the son of God. Jesus called God his father.

We all know that Jesus (the Christ) supposedly never had any children. (Some say he did) But in any case, he cannot possible be your "father."

You speak completely symbolically practically all the time which makes you appear to be living in a make believe world. I would just like you to stop talking like that sometimes and talk like a real person who exists in the real world.

In the real world the things you say don't make any literal sense.


I was going to post to this but JB said it better.

However Cowboy I will say this again since you dance about it when I do say it.

Jesus is not here.

Iam


Jesus is here, search and you will find.

Christ is here.

Jesus is with the Father.

Have you not read the warnings when you delved with such intent into the book?


"Christ" is not a name.

Christ - the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.

Thus we call Jesus, Jesus Christ, for he is our Christ, our promissed savior.


Found a better definition of christ straight from the webster's dictionary which most people us, in the USA anyways. And this will show why we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ even though his sername is not "Christ".


1

: messiah


2

: jesus


3

: an ideal type of humanity

Christ means messiah, messiah means savior. So therefore we refer to Jesus as Jesus Christ, for he is our savior.



Christ means Annointed One.

At the time of Jesus there were yet words of the Prophets which had not come about.

Therefore though he became Christ he was not yet the Messiah (all is not yet fulfilled).




Ah, but he is the messiah. No, not all prophecies have yet been fulfilled, but nevertheless he is the only way to Heaven. No one will go to Heaven till all prophecies are fulfilled, but yet he is there and is the only way to Heaven when the time comes.

For example -

A policemen is not only a policemen when he's doing his job. He is always a policement.

A fireman is not only a fireman when there is a fire, he is always a fireman.

And so forth and so forth. No the examples are not fully the same, just the statement of they are even when they are not doing that job. Jesus is and always will be the messiah, not just at judgement time.

no photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:05 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 04/11/12 12:05 PM






I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.





Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"?

I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such.



As long as you continue to speak like a preacher hailing Jesus Christ as your savior, you will be considered to be a Christian and saying that you are not a christian would be interpreted as you denying Christ.


CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:07 PM







I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.





Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"?

I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such.



As long as you continue to speak like a preacher hailing Jesus Christ as your savior, you will be considered to be a Christian and saying that you are not a christian would be interpretative as you denying Christ.




"Christian" is merely a title given to segregate one from another. Why such divisivness? I have accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior. That doesn't make me any kind of different species so to speak. We are all still persons of this world. Why such a fetish with different titles to segregate the world? I am a child of God, nuff said.

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:10 PM
so then by your melody most of the human race has no hope of heaven.

Of a certanity there is a falsness to that path (there is too much of the Darkness of Futility in it).

Every human is a Child of God and so inherits the Kingdom of Heaven (each in their measure).

The Father denies not one of his Children.


CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:10 PM







I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.





Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"?

I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such.



As long as you continue to speak like a preacher hailing Jesus Christ as your savior, you will be considered to be a Christian and saying that you are not a christian would be interpreted as you denying Christ.




And I speak as no preacher. This is a forum for religious discussions. So I come and discuss my religious views on the different topics. A preacher would come in with a specific teaching he had in mind, I do not do as such. I share my personal beliefs on the different topics, just as you. So if you wish to look at me as a "preacher" the same can be said for you in your spiritual beliefs, for I am doing no different then you.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/11/12 12:11 PM

so then by your melody most of the human race has no hope of heaven.

Of a certanity there is a falsness to that path (there is too much of the Darkness of Futility in it).

Every human is a Child of God and so inherits the Kingdom of Heaven (each in their measure).

The Father denies not one of his Children.




This much is true, the father denies not one of his children. The father denies no one. It is up to you to come to him or not. If one does not go to him, how then is it him denying anyone? It's not, it is this person's own choice to turn and walk away.

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Wed 04/11/12 12:12 PM








I am a child of God, YOU can call that Christian if you will, but I hold to no title as such.



"Christian" is not a title that one holds, cowboy. It is what people who believe in Jesus Christ are called.

If I say to you that I am not Christian, you will assume that I do not believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Plain and simple.





Do you believe the world is round? Do you believe we are on a rock floating in space so to speak? Do you believe there are 7 continents? If so what do we call you now? Why does one have to have a "title" to segragate them from others? We are people of this Earth, why must there be "Christians, Catholics, Muslims, ect"?

I am a child of God. No need to make different names and titles to segrate me or anyone else from the general population. There is no need for such.



As long as you continue to speak like a preacher hailing Jesus Christ as your savior, you will be considered to be a Christian and saying that you are not a christian would be interpreted as you denying Christ.




And I speak as no preacher. This is a forum for religious discussions. So I come and discuss my religious views on the different topics. A preacher would come in with a specific teaching he had in mind, I do not do as such. I share my personal beliefs on the different topics, just as you. So if you wish to look at me as a "preacher" the same can be said for you in your spiritual beliefs, for I am doing no different then you.


Fine. You do speak like a Christian. Therefore, you are and will be regarded as one.



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