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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 05/17/12 10:45 AM
that is soo correct and full of Truth, God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit....ONE GOD who is faithful and true...yes in Gen 1:26..."And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." He is sooo totally Awesome!! if you think that was awesome,, wait until you get to part two when they start threatening and mass murdering everyone There is absolutely no threatening or murdering, what are you talking about? in part two "Denial" is a river in Egypt

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 05/17/12 11:18 AM
that is soo correct and full of Truth, God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit....ONE GOD who is faithful and true...yes in Gen 1:26..."And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." He is sooo totally Awesome!! if you think that was awesome,, wait until you get to part two when they start threatening and mass murdering everyone There is absolutely no threatening or murdering, what are you talking about? in part two "Denial" is a river in Egypt Then please do enlighten us with some evidence of this threatening or murdering. Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another Here is the definition of murder, it's UNLAWFUL killing of another. God's judgement is the law, so therefore the judgement one receives by God even if it is death, is not murder. For he is the law. So please, do enlighten us of this "murdering" you speak of. And what God's laws aren't "threatening", they are the laws. God didn't say "Do this and you'll die". No, he just has informed us of the possible out come of life if one chooses to live a certain way. No threats. We don't "fear" God, we Love God in all his glory.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 05/17/12 12:04 PM
Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another so because if E.T. the Extraterrestial is not human and intentionally kills someone therefore it's not Murder ... see how your religious beliefs allow Aliens to wipe out the planet..and not consider it to be murder

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 05/19/12 07:30 AM
Here is the definition of murder, it's UNLAWFUL killing of another. God's judgement is the law, so therefore the judgement one receives by God even if it is death, is not murder. For he is the law. So please, do enlighten us of this "murdering" you speak of. Render unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasar's, and unto God the things which are God's .... which is why God does not have the right to kill people and if or when he does it's murder....but God does have the lawful right to kill ghosts

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 05/19/12 01:46 PM
Here is the definition of murder, it's UNLAWFUL killing of another. God's judgement is the law, so therefore the judgement one receives by God even if it is death, is not murder. For he is the law. So please, do enlighten us of this "murdering" you speak of. Render unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasar's, and unto God the things which are God's .... which is why God does not have the right to kill people and if or when he does it's murder....but God does have the lawful right to kill ghosts ??? God created all, God has law over all.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 05/19/12 02:34 PM
Ceasar was God, and had law over all..... Jesus found that out the hard way

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 05/20/12 11:01 AM
Ceasar was God, and had law over all..... Jesus found that out the hard way Ceasar is not God. Ceasar had absolutely no control over Jesus's soul or even over Jesus except what he allowed him to have.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 05/20/12 11:02 AM
Ceasar was God, and had law over all..... Jesus found that out the hard way Ceasar is not God. Ceasar had absolutely no control over Jesus's soul or even over Jesus except what he allowed him to have. Same applies to all, not just Jesus.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 05/20/12 12:38 PM
when Jesus cried out My God my God why have you forsaken me ..... God replied sorry there good buddy but it was you that said, Render unto Ceasar

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 05/20/12 01:10 PM
when Jesus cried out My God my God why have you forsaken me ..... God replied sorry there good buddy but it was you that said, Render unto Ceasar Mark 12:17 17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to dowith Caesar in that exact manner. Rendering unto Caesar would be paying taxes and all that sort of thing. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to do with Caesar. What are you talking about Funches?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 05/20/12 01:33 PM
Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to dowith Caesar in that exact manner. Rendering unto Caesar would be paying taxes and all that sort of thing. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to do with Caesar. What are you talking about Funches? Crucifixions was under Roman's Law and rendered unto Ceasar...

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 05/21/12 09:46 AM
Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to dowith Caesar in that exact manner. Rendering unto Caesar would be paying taxes and all that sort of thing. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to do with Caesar. What are you talking about Funches? Crucifixions was under Roman's Law and rendered unto Ceasar... Jesus broke no law though. Jesus fulfilled the law. The Torah/old testament was their law. Jesus completed it, thus he was giving the new covenant/testament to take the place of the old when it was completed. It was completed with the crufixion of Jesus. Jesus broke no law, especially any man's law eg., Roman law.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 05/21/12 09:47 AM Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 05/21/12 09:48 AM
Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to dowith Caesar in that exact manner. Rendering unto Caesar would be paying taxes and all that sort of thing. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to do with Caesar. What are you talking about Funches? Crucifixions was under Roman's Law and rendered unto Ceasar... Jesus broke no law though. Jesus fulfilled the law. The Torah/old testament was their law. Jesus completed it, thus he was giving the new covenant/testament to take the place of the old when it was completed. It was completed with the crufixion of Jesus. Jesus broke no law, especially any man's law eg., Roman law. Everything Jesus did was according to the prophecies of the old covenant/old law. Everything Jesus did was exactly as it prophesied to happen. So where did Jesus "break" a law? He can't help it if they did not believe him to be the promised one from the old law/their law.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 05/21/12 09:56 AM
Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to dowith Caesar in that exact manner. Rendering unto Caesar would be paying taxes and all that sort of thing. Jesus' crucifixion had absolutely nothing to do with Caesar. What are you talking about Funches? Crucifixions was under Roman's Law and rendered unto Ceasar... Mark 12:17 17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him. Jesus was redering unto God the things that were God's. His law in this case.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 05/21/12 12:30 PM
Jesus was redering unto God the things that were God's. His law in this case. can you tell of an instance where he rendered God's law to Ceasar? ....if not...then stop making up stuff

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 05/21/12 01:55 PM
Jesus was redering unto God the things that were God's. His law in this case. can you tell of an instance where he rendered God's law to Ceasar? ....if not...then stop making up stuff Making up what stuff? What are you talking about? Where did I say he rendered God's law to Ceasar? What law of Ceasar's did Jesus break? Why do you only ask questions, but don't answer them? And ask questions off the wall at that.

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Mon 05/21/12 03:24 PM
Actually the episode is hinky. Roman law allowed the Jewish state to use a death penalty for stuff (or did you forget the stoning episodes?); Many scholars believe it is actually a retelling of the story of the Teacher of Righteousness and the Maccabbees, 200 years earlier.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 05/21/12 03:31 PM
What law of Ceasar's did Jesus break? does your God need someone to break a law for his angels to kill ?...why expect the same of the Roman God Ceasar's soldiers

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 05/21/12 03:35 PM Edited by funches on Mon 05/21/12 03:41 PM
Why do you only ask questions, but don't answer them? And ask questions off the wall at that. Jesus commanded you to render unto Ceasar's law and you're still doing it today.... except it's Obama's Law

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 05/21/12 03:40 PM
Actually the episode is hinky. Roman law allowed the Jewish state to use a death penalty for stuff (or did you forget the stoning episodes?); Many scholars believe it is actually a retelling of the story of the Teacher of Righteousness and the Maccabbees, 200 years earlier. why would Rome care if Jews stone each other