No he was not spoke of in this as Jesus. He wasn't "Jesus" until he took on the form of a servant, and dwelt among us



Jesus is with his Father. Jesus is God. Please give a verse that says Jesus is with "God".



Please give a verse(s) that support this as well, specifically "the Word". Cause I know the Holy Spirit is in me, but give a verse that specicifally "The Word" is in me, or that we are "the Word".



You have a good theory here. Only problem is man was walking this Earth before the Word became flesh.

without knowledge he wouldn't had a clue what "before God" meant

??? God has infinite knowledge. But that doesn't mean the knowledge was there before God, beause there was no before God.... what are you talking about?

This is all too troublesome for me....am just gonna sit back and learn...

without knowledge existing first...how would God know what did or didn't exist before he did .....you have yet to explain this

Because God has infinite knowledge and God created everything, this includes also Angels and everything in Heaven, not just on the face of this Earth.

And there would be no knowledge of anything existing before God. There was no before God. God was not created or made. God has always been and always will be. He has no starting point, no birthday.

Cowboy...you keep missing the point...how would God have infinite knowledge if knowledge didn't exist ....

Nothing existed before God, there is no such thing as before God. This includes but not limited to knowledge.

so are you here to discuss or preach ....if you are here to preach then I'll understand why you keep "parrot-phrasing" the same chant over and over....

but if you are to discuss/debate...then kindly explain how God had knowledge of anything ..if no knowledge existed before him

I'm here to discuss, you are here to belittle. Again after again, there was no before God. So there could be no knowledge that existed before God, because there was no time before God. God has always existed, he is the beginning and the end. He has no starting point and he has no ending point.

didn't you claim that no children drown in the great flood because God place them all on Noah's Ark? ......and I have to teach you that God did indeed murder those children

so perhaps it's you that belittle yourself

wow.... so God had no knowledge?....well I guess it's possible that dumb Gods do exist

Yes I did make the comment, no denying what I said. But I was wrong, I was not thinking. But does not mean God murdered the one's that did not get on the Ark. We know not what their judgement was, we know not if they are dead or are in the great Heaven with God right now.

???? And how exactly did you get that from what I said? I said nothing of what you said in this quote. There was no knowledge before God, because there was no before God.

Cowboys Questions/Statments.

Question.
"Please give a verse that says Jesus is with "God".
Answer: I need not quote such a verse as you request I have spoken it... so it is.

Question.
"Please give a verse(s) that support this as well, specifically "the Word". Cause I know the Holy Spirit is in me, but give a verse that specicifally "The Word" is in me, or that we are "the Word".
"
Sir I did give a verse that so stated.


Cowboy's statement...
"You have a good theory here. Only problem is man was walking this Earth before the Word became flesh. "

Aye it became flesh by the Lamb of God (and the Advent of Christ)...
Yet was the Word, before was man.

For the Word was before the begining of Creation...

And man came not with the Word but by its utterance on the 6th day.

Cowboy you must read the oft quoted book more often.

You have missed the opening of its seal.

In the knowledge of Mankind God moved upon the Abyss.

God did not come from it. Nor did he come before it... He moved upon it.

Indeed it is possible then that there is more to God than the Book...

For the book only lists the remembrances of man. And we were created.

Jesus is God-

- Isaiah 41:13
13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

- Luke 4:12
12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

And many other verses say it as well. Thy God... Your God.



Yes the "Word" was before man's creation. The "Word" was involved in the creation of man eg., "LORD God".

Yes exactly, as mentioned in the previous post. God doesn't exist in a single place such as you or I. God is everywhere at the same exact time. He isn't in Heaven in a single place up in a throne looking over his "servants". God has only made a specific location for his creations. Heaven for the angels and what not, and Earth for us. Then one day Heaven and Earth will be united for us all to enjoy one another's company. But God himself is not restrained to one speciif location at one specific time. Time and location means nothing to God, he is not restrained from that. That is merely a creation of his own, not him that was created from that which we speak of.

So you again quote something you understand not.
In my manny postings to you I have said also the same things (in but differing language and you quote me not... Though you quote the Book of Christ as if its pages are bare to you in such a way as to confuse others.

I will put it another way.

Christ is ascended.

Jesus is not the Word nor is Jesus God.

I have written it.

It is truth.

My authority is written in the Book you Quote but you see it not (you look for Jesus in many places where he is not, did you miss then the warning).

And where do you get this knowledge from? Yes Jesus "Christ" has ascended physically.

Jesus/the Word -
John 1:14
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Jesus is the only begotten of the Father. Adam was "created" from the dust. Jesus was born/begotten by the Father.